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Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:50 pm
Watched this programme for the first time last night..........made me evil....these people are taking the
p@ss.Never seen some of them without a fag in one hand and a beer in the other........nice to see where my tax is going every week.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:52 pm
And buying things that help the economy?
Not great but probably a marked improvement on them starving to death really.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:53 pm
You might find yourself on hard times one day.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:55 pm
Strange as people have reported it as being made by a Labour contributor. Don't see how, as all that comes across is a load of pikeys living off Labours legacy of 'human rights' and everyone is equal regardless of effort.
I found it funny when they started complaining about rent and they get housing benefit
That white dee is a crack dealer btw and she also steals from the poor, which is funny as she acts as mother Teresa looking after other peoples money.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:58 pm
£70 for a single person £110 for a couple.Take out gas electric food water rates,living the high life,not.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:59 pm
Hard times............dont make me laugh........the people on hard times are the families working everyday for low wages, paying their bills, council tax, national insurance, tax, rent/morgage............not these scum who have never done a days work in their lives.If they clamped down on these lazy drug ridden clowns, there would be more benefits for those who deserve them, such as the old aged and the disabled.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:04 pm
Denzil wrote:Hard times............dont make me laugh........the people on hard times are the families working everyday for low wages, paying their bills, council tax, national insurance, tax, rent/morgage............not these scum who have never done a days work in their lives.If they clamped down on these lazy drug ridden clowns, there would be more benefits for those who deserve them, such as the old aged and the disabled.
your generalising,so everyone on benefits are scum.I hope one day you find yourself on benefits.Fool.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:05 pm
Scoobybloo wrote:£70 for a single person £110 for a couple.Take out gas electric food water rates,living the high life,not.

Add on free rent, council tax, school meals, clothing allowance, child benefits, sickness benefits, alcohol(for addicts) and it evens up a bit.
how much money do you think someone on the minimum wage gets......about £240 a week minus tax and national insurance, pension and transport costs.......there is not a lot in it.........??
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:09 pm
Half of the benefits budget goes on pensions.
Most of the other half goes on in work benefits like tax credits and child benefits.
Unemployment benefits are a minuscule part of it.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:10 pm
Most people who work are on some sort of benefit to top their wages up,are they scum.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:11 pm
Denzil wrote:Scoobybloo wrote:£70 for a single person £110 for a couple.Take out gas electric food water rates,living the high life,not.

Add on free rent, council tax, school meals, clothing allowance, child benefits, sickness benefits, alcohol(for addicts) and it evens up a bit.
how much money do you think someone on the minimum wage gets......about £240 a week minus tax and national insurance, pension and transport costs.......there is not a lot in it.........??
Totally agree that they need to tighten-up on who is genuinely in need of assistance. There has to be a limit on how much you can take without contributing...That said, programmes like this and just cater to stereotypes...They won't make a documentary of about a guy losing his job, can't find work and having kids who need feeding
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:13 pm
Scoobybloo wrote:Denzil wrote:Hard times............dont make me laugh........the people on hard times are the families working everyday for low wages, paying their bills, council tax, national insurance, tax, rent/morgage............not these scum who have never done a days work in their lives.If they clamped down on these lazy drug ridden clowns, there would be more benefits for those who deserve them, such as the old aged and the disabled.
your generalising,so everyone on benefits are scum.I hope one day you find yourself on benefits.Fool.
Read my first post....im on about the people in this programme.......and people like them....who have never worked....dont intend to work......and sit around all day smoking and drinking.....and taking drugs....!
I have no objection to people on benefits who have fallen on hard times and lost a job, or who are sick, or the old aged who have paid their contributions..........but i dont see why i should pay nearly half my income in taxes and national insurance for some lazy git to sit on the settee all day taking the piss.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:16 pm
ThomasC wrote:Denzil wrote:Scoobybloo wrote:£70 for a single person £110 for a couple.Take out gas electric food water rates,living the high life,not.

Add on free rent, council tax, school meals, clothing allowance, child benefits, sickness benefits, alcohol(for addicts) and it evens up a bit.
how much money do you think someone on the minimum wage gets......about £240 a week minus tax and national insurance, pension and transport costs.......there is not a lot in it.........??
Totally agree that they need to tighten-up on who is genuinely in need of assistance. There has to be a limit on how much you can take without contributing...That said, programmes like this and just cater to stereotypes...They won't make a documentary of about a guy losing his job, can't find work and having kids who need feeding
correct and the government has introduced a benefit cap,so if you have a lot of kids some of them can eat and get clothed but the others can starve,denzil probably came up with that one
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:24 pm
These programs are for the likes of us to support benefit cuts , yes there are morons like this bleeding the system but then there are genuine people who cant find work and suffering and the cuts will affect them but no one would be interested in a program about a person who has lost his job and is trying to find work.
far more entertaining to show morons like these brummies and people think all are the same so go ahead mr Cameron cut the benefits , I lost my job about 5 yrs ago and was very lucky got a job in a few weeks and didn't have to rely on benefits but I really feel for the genuine people when they show programs like this.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:24 pm
Scoobybloo wrote:Denzil wrote:Hard times............dont make me laugh........the people on hard times are the families working everyday for low wages, paying their bills, council tax, national insurance, tax, rent/morgage............not these scum who have never done a days work in their lives.If they clamped down on these lazy drug ridden clowns, there would be more benefits for those who deserve them, such as the old aged and the disabled.
your generalising,so everyone on benefits are scum.I hope one day you find yourself on benefits.Fool.
You are classing all benefits claimants as sob story victims, victimised by the big angry Tories. If you try hard enough you'll get a job. Apply at Mcdonalds for example, but you wouldn't want to work there would you? It'll affect your street cred.
Lets all vote for Labour though eh?. The heroes that crippled our economy in the first place, with a bellend in charge who knows how to get the ignorant majority on side, by offering price freezes on fuel without knowing how he'd pay for it.
Not everyone rich is evil, if you're going down the line of prejudice.
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:27 pm
Scoobybloo wrote:ThomasC wrote:Denzil wrote:Scoobybloo wrote:£70 for a single person £110 for a couple.Take out gas electric food water rates,living the high life,not.

Add on free rent, council tax, school meals, clothing allowance, child benefits, sickness benefits, alcohol(for addicts) and it evens up a bit.
how much money do you think someone on the minimum wage gets......about £240 a week minus tax and national insurance, pension and transport costs.......there is not a lot in it.........??
Totally agree that they need to tighten-up on who is genuinely in need of assistance. There has to be a limit on how much you can take without contributing...That said, programmes like this and just cater to stereotypes...They won't make a documentary of about a guy losing his job, can't find work and having kids who need feeding
correct and the government has introduced a benefit cap,so if you have a lot of kids some of them can eat and get clothed but the others can starve,denzil probably came up with that one

Nobody is starving.......its not the 1930s.......where people were starving.........if any children are going short its because their parents choose to spend their money on items that are non essential............like fags and drink.
Dont tell me you dont know people like this coz we all do.The people who work are being asked by this tory government to cut back, lose pensions, no pay rises, less wages........why should people on benefits not take a share.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:35 pm
Don't lump everybody on jobseekers in the same category please, i've just recently come off of it after over a year of looking for work and i worked my ass off doing coursed and programs trying to get work, im no scrounger and that jobseekers money really helped so don't judge all of us the same like some of you stuck up prats do
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:54 pm
welshman90 wrote:Don't lump everybody on jobseekers in the same category please, i've just recently come off of it after over a year of looking for work and i worked my ass off doing coursed and programs trying to get work, im no scrounger and that jobseekers money really helped so don't judge all of us the same like some of you stuck up prats do
Read What ive said ......im not on about people like you who are looking for work.read it before you call me a stuck up pratt.
And by the way if working all my life in engineering factories makes me a stuck up pratt id like to know how.
And as much as its no fun on the dole..........its not exactly all beer and skittles getting up at 5-30 every morning for a twelve hour shift.Especially when i see people who dont intend to work on their way to the off licence every night.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:01 pm
Denzil wrote:welshman90 wrote:Don't lump everybody on jobseekers in the same category please, i've just recently come off of it after over a year of looking for work and i worked my ass off doing coursed and programs trying to get work, im no scrounger and that jobseekers money really helped so don't judge all of us the same like some of you stuck up prats do
Read What ive said ......im not on about people like you who are looking for work.read it before you call me a stuck up pratt.
And by the way if working all my life in engineering factories makes me a stuck up pratt id like to know how.
And as much as its no fun on the dole..........its not exactly all beer and skittles getting up at 5-30 every morning for a twelve hour shift.Especially when i see people who dont intend to work on their way to the off licence every night.
I said some of you, i didn't single you or anyone else out, i agree that the scroungers that take advantage piss me off too im just saying it annoys me when people think you're a scrounger just because you're on the dole
Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:13 pm
How do u know white dee is a crack dealer? Is that how came shes called white d? Shame i thought she was a good laugh with a good heart but anyone peddling hard drugs is scum.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:22 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Scoobybloo wrote:Denzil wrote:Hard times............dont make me laugh........the people on hard times are the families working everyday for low wages, paying their bills, council tax, national insurance, tax, rent/morgage............not these scum who have never done a days work in their lives.If they clamped down on these lazy drug ridden clowns, there would be more benefits for those who deserve them, such as the old aged and the disabled.
your generalising,so everyone on benefits are scum.I hope one day you find yourself on benefits.Fool.
You are classing all benefits claimants as sob story victims, victimised by the big angry Tories. If you try hard enough you'll get a job. Apply at Mcdonalds for example, but you wouldn't want to work there would you? It'll affect your street cred.
Lets all vote for Labour though eh?. The heroes that crippled our economy in the first place, with a bellend in charge who knows how to get the ignorant majority on side, by offering price freezes on fuel without knowing how he'd pay for it.
Not everyone rich is evil, if you're going down the line of prejudice.
Now i know why people call you willy wanker
Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 pm
Denzil wrote:Watched this programme for the first time last night..........made me evil....these people are taking the
p@ss.Never seen some of them without a fag in one hand and a beer in the other........nice to see where my tax is going every week.

Many people in Wales vote for it - and will continue voting for the left-wing nut jobs. You could talk till you're blue in the face and they'd still vote for failure! The problem now is of course the left -wing have infiltrated all the mainstream parties and they all support immigration, they all support the undemocratic EU and they all of course lie through their back teeth to get your vote - and get your vote they will! Anyone with an once of common sense would vote anything other than the Lib Lab Con!
Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:23 pm
Labour could literally put a convicted serial killer/paedo up for election and he'd win by a landslide in merthyr.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:59 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Labour could literally put a convicted serial killer/paedo up for election and he'd win by a landslide in merthyr.
Agreed! Sad though that the electorate are so f+++++ thick! They support the failed Lib Lab Cons - like it's their football team.
The result of supporting the 'failed three' as i like to call them, is why many parts of the country now resemble Karachi, Mogadishu and other third world holes. The truth is If you bring in the third world you won't change them - they'll change you!
Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:11 pm
There should only be benefits for the severely disabled and pensioners. Every one else is capable of making a living even if its growing fruit and veg out the back garden to sell, cutting peoples grass, cleaning the streets, cleaning peoples windows, cutting firewood for people for their stoves etc.
Don't give me the 'I'm too good for that stuff' line because they do it in other countries no problem. Again, get a loan to start a business or use some initiative. Its possible as other people are doing it. Theres no excuse for being sat on benefits as you can even apply to university/college and better your career prospects and you get financial support throughout all of that if you're on a low income. People need to stop making excuses for their own laziness as theres an array of options out there - college/university/free seminars/free qualification internships/etc.
Benefits should not be a reward for bone idleness. These people just expect it handed to them on a plate as if they're owed a top quality job thats high paid for nothing.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:15 pm
JB39. wrote:There should only be benefits for the severely disabled and pensioners. Every one else is capable of making a living even if its growing fruit and veg out the back garden to sell, cutting peoples grass, cleaning the streets, cleaning peoples windows, cutting firewood for people for their stoves etc.
Don't give me the 'I'm too good for that stuff' line because they do it in other countries no problem. Again, get a loan to start a business or use some initiative. Its possible as other people are doing it. Theres no excuse for being sat on benefits as you can even apply to university/college and better your career prospects and you get financial support throughout all of that if you're on a low income. People need to stop making excuses for their own laziness as theres an array of options out there - college/university/free seminars/free qualification internships/etc.
Benefits should not be a reward for bone idleness. These people just expect it handed to them on a plate as if they're owed a top quality job thats high paid for nothing.
How does University feed the family then?
Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:22 pm
Aramore wrote:How does University feed the family then?

If you cant afford children then use a condom and don't have them. Simple enough really. If you have children because you're an irresponsible moron then thats your own problem to solve. Others shouldn't have to foot the bill for your stupidity just because you couldn't put something on the end of it.
If you wait and go to university then go into a job then you'll be able to feed the family won't you? Not hard to work out is it? If you're going to come straight out of school and become a baby making machine then thats your own problem.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:27 pm
Aramore wrote:JB39. wrote:There should only be benefits for the severely disabled and pensioners. Every one else is capable of making a living even if its growing fruit and veg out the back garden to sell, cutting peoples grass, cleaning the streets, cleaning peoples windows, cutting firewood for people for their stoves etc.
Don't give me the 'I'm too good for that stuff' line because they do it in other countries no problem. Again, get a loan to start a business or use some initiative. Its possible as other people are doing it. Theres no excuse for being sat on benefits as you can even apply to university/college and better your career prospects and you get financial support throughout all of that if you're on a low income. People need to stop making excuses for their own laziness as theres an array of options out there - college/university/free seminars/free qualification internships/etc.
Benefits should not be a reward for bone idleness. These people just expect it handed to them on a plate as if they're owed a top quality job thats high paid for nothing.
How does University feed the family then?

Correct it does not...............but neither does sitting on your arse in the house smoking superkings and drinking cans of cider.......when 25% of the care homes in wales cant get enough staff.
Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:30 pm
JB39. wrote:Aramore wrote:How does University feed the family then?

If you cant afford children then use a condom and don't have them. Simple enough really. If you have children because you're an irresponsible moron then thats your own problem to solve. Others shouldn't have to foot the bill for your stupidity just because you couldn't put something on the end of it.
If you wait and go to university then go into a job then you'll be able to feed the family won't you? Not hard to work out is it? If you're going to come straight out of school and become a baby making machine then thats your own problem.
Never mind our own thick lot who don't wear condoms - the thick b====== who call themselves a government ( past and present) welcomed in with open arms, somewhere in the region ( as no one really knows) 6- 10 million third worlders - who breed like rabbits! Our population in 50 years will be well over 100 million - well over! By that time, the country will not be able to afford an NHS or a welfare state!
Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:33 pm
Denzil wrote:Correct it does not...............but neither does sitting on your arse in the house smoking superkings and drinking cans of cider.......when 25% of the care homes in wales cant get enough staff.
University increases your job prospects and the likelihood of a larger salary later in life. There are people at university with children studying, putting their children into playgroups and being mums. These mothers and these fathers are a credit to our society and true role models. They do get extra financial help as parents studying but I think they're entitled to it because they're not sat on their arses. They are actually doing something and studying to better themselves and their prospects which in turn increases their chances of gaining a better paid job and therefore paying more tax back into the system. Its an investment in them like any other student.
The problem is many want the money but don't want to better themselves, don't want to contribute and just love to keep taking and being leaches on society. Its all about them and what they can get. If it wasn't they'd give something back and be proactive, self motivated, etc.
The government does not owe anyone a cushty life and you're a product of the environment you were born into and grew up in. I didn't ask to have what is regarded as a disability and I could be claiming now and not even bother with uni if I wanted to do so but I don't want to be a burden on society and I want to better myself, get a good job and contribute to the system, the system that invested in me by providing me an education.
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