Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:53 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:59 am
cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:00 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:06 am
8ballpottingmachine wrote:With the Jan window being overpriced perhaps some nutcase club will come in and take ACorn off our hands for the same price we paid for him. Seriously tho, I still think he may come good, he needs to adjust I believe to the English game. Im just fearing we have too many players that also need to do this!
Lee.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:53 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:03 am
cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:05 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:12 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:13 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:14 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:15 am
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:20 am
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:23 am
BlueAlbert wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Got a win away to Fulham ffs![]()
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:32 am
CF14-SE14 wrote:BlueAlbert wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Got a win away to Fulham ffs![]()
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The first ever away win in the Premiership, if you don't feel that was a big deal, then you've been expecting far too much
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:39 am
BlueAlbert wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:BlueAlbert wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Got a win away to Fulham ffs![]()
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The first ever away win in the Premiership, if you don't feel that was a big deal, then you've been expecting far too much
Mate,we have been clueless for most of the season,the table never lies if we don't buck up we are going down,this is Malkys squad and let's be honest caulker was worth the money but the rest ???
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:42 am
CF14-SE14 wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Well said
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:47 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:54 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:57 am
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:12 pm
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:so was it also malkys fault we beat man city, got a win away at fulham, drew with man utd, beat swansea etc. i certainly blame him for winning the league and that carling cup final appearance with a tiny squad. shocking
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:13 pm
cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:18 pm
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:18 pm
BlueGog wrote:cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
Excellent post. I think Cornelius will come good too, he's a different option to what we have at the moment. Ole has his work cut out to change, what still is, a Championship squad. In all this Malky worked the press excellently and has gained the moral high ground because of the hatred of VT because of the red. But, he got enough money to build a team that could survive in the Prem but didn't. I think he was naive enough to think that we were good enough, this only shows how unxperienced he is at this level. If we do go down, the blame must go down to Malky for his poor teambuilding over the summer. If we stay up it will be adown to Ole! But MM took us up I here you say! The way he was backed by Tan it would have been a crime if he hadn't!
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:21 pm
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:32 pm
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:54 pm
cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:56 pm
Daya wrote:cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
What a turncoat Malky was the best Manager you had so far and now you blame him ?
West Ham weren't there for the taking you numpty, after a bad couple of weeks they were fired up for the game,
We had centre halves actually playing in their own positions , Jarvis and Downing demonstrating why they are some of the best wingers in the league , Carlton Cole bullying as he does as well as scoring goals and then Andy Carroll returning who was dynamite when he came on.
On top of that Mark Noble fought for 90 minutes as if his life was on it being a local east end boy dying for his Club if need be.
And that was Malkys fault ????
Dream on....... Your in the position you are in because of your chairman and his disruption during you first season in the premiership .
There's no god forgiven right to premiership life. You have to take the ups and downs its not just about having the biggest cheque book
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:56 pm
bspark wrote:And the other thing in Malky's favour is he picked up 18 points in 19 games playing mainly top teams at home. Ole has a far easier home run to the end of the season so if he doesn't get more than 18 points it definitely points to the blame being down to him.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:58 pm
bspark wrote:Daya wrote:cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
What a turncoat Malky was the best Manager you had so far and now you blame him ?
West Ham weren't there for the taking you numpty, after a bad couple of weeks they were fired up for the game,
We had centre halves actually playing in their own positions , Jarvis and Downing demonstrating why they are some of the best wingers in the league , Carlton Cole bullying as he does as well as scoring goals and then Andy Carroll returning who was dynamite when he came on.
On top of that Mark Noble fought for 90 minutes as if his life was on it being a local east end boy dying for his Club if need be.
And that was Malkys fault ????
Dream on....... Your in the position you are in because of your chairman and his disruption during you first season in the premiership .
There's no god forgiven right to premiership life. You have to take the ups and downs its not just about having the biggest cheque book
West ham were awful, we were worse. I wouldn't be surprised if we both went down but I agree with the comments about Malky.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:00 pm
Castro wrote:BlueGog wrote:cityone wrote:For years i have always said that if we get to the premiership we will survive and then kick on, but after recent results i am now fearing the worse, our last three home games should have brought us a minimum of five points, we couldn't have played the opposition at a better time, Southampton hadn't won in six games, Sunderland were bottom of the league and West Ham were there for the taking after their confidence had been shot to bits. We've ended up with ONE point, scored two goals and conceded seven, it's just about as bad as it gets from a football point of view. For me the entire blame lies at the feet of Malky Makay, just because he throws a couple of fist pumps to the fans doesn't make him excused for the football we have been dished up, this is HIS team/squad, he has spent over £35 million bringing together players who in general are not comfortable with the ball at their feet, Medel looks a shadow of the player who first came to the club and is certainly not worth £11 million we paid for him, Odemwingie looks totally out of his depth, Whittingham has become a liability and as for Cornelius, the least said the better, £8 million and £45k a week later he looks like a league one player. Malky was financially backed by the owner of that there is no doubt and now OGS has to try and turn things around in an unforgiving transfer window where players are vastly over priced,( but then we are used to that) good luck ole, you're going to need it.
Excellent post. I think Cornelius will come good too, he's a different option to what we have at the moment. Ole has his work cut out to change, what still is, a Championship squad. In all this Malky worked the press excellently and has gained the moral high ground because of the hatred of VT because of the red. But, he got enough money to build a team that could survive in the Prem but didn't. I think he was naive enough to think that we were good enough, this only shows how unxperienced he is at this level. If we do go down, the blame must go down to Malky for his poor teambuilding over the summer. If we stay up it will be adown to Ole! But MM took us up I here you say! The way he was backed by Tan it would have been a crime if he hadn't!
I don't think thats fair, and just a tad contradictory.
You are saying its Malkys squad so if you go down its his fault....but if you stay up then its down to Solskjaer? I actually think Malky would have kept you up, the football was dire but you weren't easy to beat, and thats key in this league.
Now? Im not so sure. Solskjaer is a good manager but too much money, too much upheaval and too much meddling for me - its going to be tricky.