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Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:38 am

Former Aston Villa, West Ham and Everton midfielder Thomas Hitzlsperger has announced he is gay. I don't know about you but I don't why that is the main headline on bbc?

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:43 am

Does he think I care in slightest about his sexual preference. At the end of his career, bye bye :wave:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:43 am

You're right it shouldn't be headline news. The fact that it is, is damning of football and its inability to diversify. Be it on the topic of race, gender or sexuality.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:46 am

Just to correct my post, I don't know why*.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:48 am

Didnt he used to be known as the (Hammer)

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:50 am

intheknow wrote:Didnt he used to be known as the (Hammer)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:58 am

The fact he has had to live a lie throught his playing career is a shame.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:02 pm

AJ1927 wrote:The fact he has had to live a lie throught his playing career is a shame.


I don't know the sexual preference of nearly every player, why? Because I don't give a shit.

People who come out claim to ask for privacy but they know it will be the complete opposite.

His close friends and family must know, so why does he think the world needs to know?????. Just get on with your life ffs. If they don't mind why does he care what other people think?.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:25 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:The fact he has had to live a lie throught his playing career is a shame.


I don't know the sexual preference of nearly every player, why? Because I don't give a shit.

People who come out claim to ask for privacy but they know it will be the complete opposite.

His close friends and family must know, so why does he think the world needs to know?????. Just get on with your life ffs. If they don't mind why does he care what other people think?.


Any celebrity coming out can help people who are fighting with the same issues in their life

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:32 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Any celebrity coming out can help people who are fighting with the same issues in their life


How? Please elaborate.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:39 pm

This.

That Thomas Hitzlsperger has come out of the closet is indisputably good news.

The man himself can now be just that, himself, without the fear of recriminations or abuse.

Hitzlsperger says homosexuality is "simply ignored" in football. He told Zeit that "homosexuality isn't a serious topic for discussion in England, Germany or Italy - at least not in the dressing room" - but it should be.

I have already seen this morning people argue that "making a big deal out of it" helps no-one.

But I disagree, and so does the player.

"I am talking about being gay because I want to move forward the discussion about homosexuality among professional sports stars," and it is the media's duty to help him do that.

There is no circus. There is no hullabaloo. We simply have the opportunity to show other footballers that are not yet ready to be open with their sexuality that they should feel comfortable and safe to be so if they want.

Broadcasting around the world the overwhelmingly positive reaction to Thomas Hitzlsperger's interview is a key part of that.



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Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:42 pm

Heterosexuality is ignored too. I don't see Ashley Cole running around Stamford Bridge screaming about how he slept with Cheryl and is so manly and straight.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:47 pm

JB39. wrote:Heterosexuality is ignored too. I don't see Ashley Cole running around Stamford Bridge screaming about how he slept with Cheryl and is so manly and straight.



check the Sheridan Smith thread.


If a gay person is surrounded by that sort of environment i imagine it can be quite awkward, especially if that person is keeping quiet about their sexual preferences, must be difficult to feel like you can be yourself.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:48 pm

JB39. wrote:Heterosexuality is ignored too. I don't see Ashley Cole running around Stamford Bridge screaming about how he slept with Cheryl and is so manly and straight.


Surely that's because it's assumed to be a 'norm' and thus Hitzlsperger 'coming out' has only helped towards breaking down ideas that footballers/sportsmen and fans may have about homosexuality?

I do agree that it shouldn't be news in 2014, but it is because it has been such a taboo for so long. Take the interview with the gay footballer in the Bundesliga last year - he shouldn't have to hide what he is for the sake of appearing to be a societal 'norm'?

By the way, just noticed the little joined 'ae' in your location - nice touch!

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:11 pm

respect to Hitzlsperger, I couldnt care less if a footballer, icehockey-player, politician or whatever is gay or hetero... I've got 2 gay friends, known them for years, great lads and their sexual preference doesnt make a difference to me.

unfortunately, many still hold homophic prejudice, and we only have a liberal and open to all society if we finally make that step and "liberate" homosexual human beings, who didn't choose to be gay, bisexual or lesbian, but were born that way.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:21 pm

They keep on filling the news with this as if their is an end goal. No chance will everyone accept homosexuality, it is not going to happen. They seem to think it will.

Many people face prejudice day in day out. How is calling someone ugly not as serious an offence as calling someone Gay as an insult?????. I'd say it is much worse saying someone is ugly. But hey, ugly people can't be categorised can they?. The media can't claim it's a hate crime as the majority of people are ugly. Can't have a hate crime against a majority now can we? It has to be the poor repressed minority.

Stick your willy up anything, I don't care, just don't tell me about it. Live next to me for all I care, do I care if you're gay? NOOOOO.

Gay people will always struggle coming out to their family, a celebrity coming out will not change that. All it will do is make the media have their monthly 'everyone's is homophobic, even if they aren't' agenda. Our press has gone to the dogs covering gash like this, people are dying all around the world and I'm supposed to care you are in a relationship with Dave?.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:34 pm

JB39. wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Any celebrity coming out can help people who are fighting with the same issues in their life


How? Please elaborate.


Surely you are just that little bit closer to coming out since Alfie, Tom and now Thomas have given you the strength.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:45 pm

Not another one.............they will be telling us Dale Winton is gay next.....!!!!!!

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:49 pm

Hofmeister wrote:respect to Hitzlsperger, I couldnt care less if a footballer, icehockey-player, politician or whatever is gay or hetero... I've got 2 gay friends, known them for years, great lads and their sexual preference doesnt make a difference to me.

unfortunately, many still hold homophic prejudice, and we only have a liberal and open to all society if we finally make that step and "liberate" homosexual human beings, who didn't choose to be gay, bisexual or lesbian, but were born that way.


Yeah but going into the media spotlight is not going to solve that. You can't force non acceptors to accept through methods of oppression. People will believe what they want and view things how they want as they have their own values. Then you have to factor in a proportion of this country is Christian and Islamic and that there are those within those faiths that totally disagree with homosexuality.

The media are just trying to force it on everyone. I don't have a problem what people do but when its forced in my face as some substitute for actual news it does my head in just as a headline with 'Katie Price is back with Peter Andre' would or 'Beckham and Posh split' would. Who cares what they do in their private life? I don't and I suspect most rational people don't.

Whats really sad is he's come out for some validation. The only people he should be telling are his family and close friends.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:50 pm

Wayne S wrote:
JB39. wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Any celebrity coming out can help people who are fighting with the same issues in their life


How? Please elaborate.


Surely you are just that little bit closer to coming out since Alfie, Tom and now Thomas have given you the strength.


I only find women attractive sorry mate but enjoy Pulse. :wave:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:07 pm

JB39. wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:respect to Hitzlsperger, I couldnt care less if a footballer, icehockey-player, politician or whatever is gay or hetero... I've got 2 gay friends, known them for years, great lads and their sexual preference doesnt make a difference to me.

unfortunately, many still hold homophic prejudice, and we only have a liberal and open to all society if we finally make that step and "liberate" homosexual human beings, who didn't choose to be gay, bisexual or lesbian, but were born that way.


Yeah but going into the media spotlight is not going to solve that. You can't force non acceptors to accept through methods of oppression. People will believe what they want and view things how they want as they have their own values. Then you have to factor in a proportion of this country is Christian and Islamic and that there are those within those faiths that totally disagree with homosexuality.

The media are just trying to force it on everyone. I don't have a problem what people do but when its forced in my face as some substitute for actual news it does my head in just as a headline with 'Katie Price is back with Peter Andre' would or 'Beckham and Posh split' would. Who cares what they do in their private life? I don't and I suspect most rational people don't.

Whats really sad is he's come out for some validation. The only people he should be telling are his family and close friends.


Surely media spotlight is the best way for society to progress? I don't think it's forcing any opinion onto anyone. If people are staunchly against it then they will probably remain so, but even their opinions are allowed to change over time if they are presented with other opinions - that's the way the world works.

Do you think the end of apartheid/civil rights movement would have progressed without increasing media spotlight and key figures in the 1960s-1990s? It is very much, in my opinion, a similar situation here, though I respect not everyone would feel that way.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:11 pm

JB39. wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
JB39. wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Any celebrity coming out can help people who are fighting with the same issues in their life


How? Please elaborate.


Surely you are just that little bit closer to coming out since Alfie, Tom and now Thomas have given you the strength.


I only find women attractive sorry mate but enjoy Pulse. :wave:

Shame they don't feel the same about you though :lol:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:16 pm

Bluebird86 wrote:Shame they don't feel the same about you though :lol:


I dont regard your wife as a woman either mate. I hope she puts that wedding ring back on before she pops back home to you.

:wave:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:17 pm

JB39. wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:Shame they don't feel the same about you though :lol:


I dont regard your wife as a woman either mate. I hope she puts that wedding ring back on before she pops back home to you.

:wave:

What wife must of been drunk that night :lol:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:18 pm

Bluebird86 wrote:
JB39. wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:Shame they don't feel the same about you though :lol:


I dont regard your wife as a woman either mate. I hope she puts that wedding ring back on before she pops back home to you.

:wave:

What wife must of been drunk that night :lol:


No, I was. I didn't want it to happen but she said her husband can't get up and has been constantly visiting the GP for some meds.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:27 pm

How the f**k is Thomas Hitzelsperger a celebrity? :lol:

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:28 pm

I don't see why he felt need to do it to the whole public, I mean good for him that he can finally come out to his fellow professionals but you don't see the same fuss for general public who come out as gay, I got an older brother whos gay and Ive seen first hand how time it is for gay people to live in certain societies but it shouldn't be made out to be a massive deal its the 2014 now I don't think anybody is too surprised these days.

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:30 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:How the f**k is Thomas Hitzelsperger a celebrity? :lol:


Exactly ....he has'nt even had his photo taken with Daya..

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:31 pm

Denzil wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:How the f**k is Thomas Hitzelsperger a celebrity? :lol:


Exactly ....he has'nt even had his photo taken with Daya..


Bet Daya's got plenty pics of him though....

Re: Hitzlsperger reveals he is gay

Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:41 pm

Denzil wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:How the f**k is Thomas Hitzelsperger a celebrity? :lol:


Exactly ....he has'nt even had his photo taken with Daya..

Ohhhhh he has. He might of come out as gay but he still likes a nice pair of tits :lol: