Some worries regarding Solskjær's signings.

As this forum has had an influx of Norwegians lately, I think I'd just post a few worries I have regarding Solskjærs signings. I am Norwegian btw, and have been a Cardiff supporter for some time (my first match was home to Southampton in 2011, it was late september and wonderful weather) and I joined this forum somewhat later.

In regards to Dæhli, I have few worries - the kid is the best talent Norway has seen since... probably forever, at least in regards to technical ability. That said, he should be regarded as just that, a talent, and it is in no way a given he will shine and develop into a fantastic player. But in my opinion he's got alot of things going for him, and norwegian players are usually quite down to earth (in starch contrast to Zlatan and Bendtner from our neighbouring countries). The Norwegian League is just about to start pre-season, so don't expect him to be match fit.

As for Eikrem, I'm a bit more worried. Apparantly he's done well enough in the Netherlands, but that league is not what it used to be, and there has been quite a few players doing really well in Norway going there without much success. The fact that Heerenveen bought him just this summer and is already letting him go for a sum repartedly around £2-3m isn't too convincing. From what I have seen of him I'm very worried he's not any better than what we already have, and I think new signings should be stronger than what we already have (except talents). Our central midfield is also the area of least concern, along with the goalkeepers. I do hope he proves a success though.

We've also been linked to Mame Biram Diouf, formerly Molde and Man Utd. Whilst at United he went on loan to Blackburn and scored 3 goals in 26 league appearances. This is not at all something I find comforting, thought to be fair he's done well enough in the Bundesliga with 23 goals in 49 apps. On the plus side, his contract runs out this summer, and as such should be possible to get for a modest sum.

Nyland, the goalkeeper, is simply pointless to sign. He simply isn't better than Marshall or Lewis, and having him as 3rd choice is pretty pointless as he wouldn't play anyway. I believe the best training for goalkeepers is playing games, something he'll get in Norway. Let him stay and develop in Norway and if he's starting to show real signs of becoming real class, Solskjær will probably be able to sign him regardless.

There are some speculation in the Norwegian media that Solskjær had a gentleman's agreement with Vegard Forren on signing him if Solskjær ever got a job in the PL. Forren had a brief spell at Southampton, where he played a total of 0 games (was signed by Adkins, Pochettino never used him). I have seen nothing in him suggesting he's better than Turner or Hudson so I really hope (and think) those rumours are b*ll*cks.

Norway have a good amount of talent about, as we have quite strict rules regarding home players (i.e. Eikrem wasn't counted as a homegrown player due to his years in Manchester, although he's born and raised in Molde and his father had over 200 games for the club). This means there have been a surge of youth development, and there is much talent about - as seen when the U21's of Norway thrashed the English U21 side 3-1 this summer, with the English scoring on a cheaply given penalty. In the 90's Norwegian players flooded into the PL, with players like Solskjær, Flo x2, Berg, (Ronny) Johnsen, Bjørnebye, Leonhardsen, Bakke and many more. Since then however, the PL has gotten a lot better in terms of technical ability, while the Norwegian League has not developed at all (if anything stagnated). As such, it is easier for young players to get first team action, though there are few (if any) players in Norway I think could take the step into the PL comfortably based on current quality. And Molde is far from being the only club who develop talents in Norway, Strømsgodset (this years winner who's also a feeder club of Man City) for example has done much with far fewer means than Molde - whose owner is considerably richer than Vincent Tan by the way.

I'm a bit worried about Solskjær getting too many of his former men into the club. I think a lot of my fellow countrymen who has joined this forum recently is a bit too naive and optimistic about the (potential) signings, and I think most are supporters of other teams - Molde and Man Utd for the most part. That said, both Eikrem and Dæhli has experince from living in the UK and the football culture (team talks, language, training session, banter etc) so I'm not too worried about those in particular. However, these signings will be 'Solskjærs men', and if they flop many supporters may turn on him (unless the results keep coming). On the plus side, at least he isn't bringing in 35-year-old toothless defenders, but young players with technical ability.

Ill trust solskjaers judgement.

Last edited by Bluebird_87 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

We have had our issues recently with players who may be not ready or not good enough.

Cornelius Denmark
Velikonja Slovenia.

Both not able to step into premier league straight from their respective leagues.
Both may be good, but get pushed around and can't handle the hustle.

CCFC are in a fight and we need to get our bollox out to fight the teams in the games around us.

Hope these new guys shine but they need to be strong.

Interesting post to be honest. I'm excited about the two that we're about to sign and (from what I've read) they certainly seem to have qualities that our squad now lacks, but I don't understand the logic of signing another goalkeeper either.

Diouf could prove to be shrewd business and I hope his time in Germany has significantly improved him as a player.

I do hope that ole sees that there is talent worth getting who haven't played or currently play in Scandinavia.

Time will tell I suppose.

As this forum has had an influx of Norwegians lately, I think I'd just post a few worries I have regarding Solskjærs signings. I am Norwegian btw, and have been a Cardiff supporter for some time (my first match was home to Southampton in 2011, it was late september and wonderful weather) and I joined this forum somewhat later.

In regards to Dæhli, I have few worries - the kid is the best talent Norway has seen since... probably forever, at least in regards to technical ability. That said, he should be regarded as just that, a talent, and it is in no way a given he will shine and develop into a fantastic player. But in my opinion he's got alot of things going for him, and norwegian players are usually quite down to earth (in starch contrast to Zlatan and Bendtner from our neighbouring countries). The Norwegian League is just about to start pre-season, so don't expect him to be match fit.

As for Eikrem, I'm a bit more worried. Apparantly he's done well enough in the Netherlands, but that league is not what it used to be, and there has been quite a few players doing really well in Norway going there without much success. The fact that Heerenveen bought him just this summer and is already letting him go for a sum repartedly around £2-3m isn't too convincing. From what I have seen of him I'm very worried he's not any better than what we already have, and I think new signings should be stronger than what we already have (except talents). Our central midfield is also the area of least concern, along with the goalkeepers. I do hope he proves a success though.

We've also been linked to Mame Biram Diouf, formerly Molde and Man Utd. Whilst at United he went on loan to Blackburn and scored 3 goals in 26 league appearances. This is not at all something I find comforting, thought to be fair he's done well enough in the Bundesliga with 23 goals in 49 apps. On the plus side, his contract runs out this summer, and as such should be possible to get for a modest sum.

Nyland, the goalkeeper, is simply pointless to sign. He simply isn't better than Marshall or Lewis, and having him as 3rd choice is pretty pointless as he wouldn't play anyway. I believe the best training for goalkeepers is playing games, something he'll get in Norway. Let him stay and develop in Norway and if he's starting to show real signs of becoming real class, Solskjær will probably be able to sign him regardless.

There are some speculation in the Norwegian media that Solskjær had a gentleman's agreement with Vegard Forren on signing him if Solskjær ever got a job in the PL. Forren had a brief spell at Southampton, where he played a total of 0 games (was signed by Adkins, Pochettino never used him). I have seen nothing in him suggesting he's better than Turner or Hudson so I really hope (and think) those rumours are b*ll*cks.

Norway have a good amount of talent about, as we have quite strict rules regarding home players (i.e. Eikrem wasn't counted as a homegrown player due to his years in Manchester, although he's born and raised in Molde and his father had over 200 games for the club). This means there have been a surge of youth development, and there is much talent about - as seen when the U21's of Norway thrashed the English U21 side 3-1 this summer, with the English scoring on a cheaply given penalty. In the 90's Norwegian players flooded into the PL, with players like Solskjær, Flo x2, Berg, (Ronny) Johnsen, Bjørnebye, Leonhardsen, Bakke and many more. Since then however, the PL has gotten a lot better in terms of technical ability, while the Norwegian League has not developed at all (if anything stagnated). As such, it is easier for young players to get first team action, though there are few (if any) players in Norway I think could take the step into the PL comfortably based on current quality. And Molde is far from being the only club who develop talents in Norway, Strømsgodset (this years winner who's also a feeder club of Man City) for example has done much with far fewer means than Molde - whose owner is considerably richer than Vincent Tan by the way.

I'm a bit worried about Solskjær getting too many of his former men into the club. I think a lot of my fellow countrymen who has joined this forum recently is a bit too naive and optimistic about the (potential) signings, and I think most are supporters of other teams - Molde and Man Utd for the most part. That said, both Eikrem and Dæhli has experince from living in the UK and the football culture (team talks, language, training session, banter etc) so I'm not too worried about those in particular. However, these signings will be 'Solskjærs men', and if they flop many supporters may turn on him (unless the results keep coming). On the plus side, at least he isn't bringing in 35-year-old toothless defenders, but young players with technical ability.

You've made some good points. However, Ole knows the Premier League better than most and he also knows what's needed to compete at this level.

So basically they are all shite? Jog on u Buffoon

No, don't worry CantonG. I just wanted to be a counter-weight towards a lot of (mainly norwegian) users who I feel might have overrestimated the players, and being a bit too positive. I hope as much as anyone that they'll be a success, but if they don't, they might end up getting the status that Paul Konchesky had in Liverpool. Being norwegian, I would love for players from Norway to take the PL by storm (not to mention Solskjær). I just wanted to give a more nuanced picture, and at the end of the day, Solskjær is to be trusted more than me in his calls.

Interesting post to be honest. I'm excited about the two that we're about to sign and (from what I've read) they certainly seem to have qualities that our squad now lacks, but I don't understand the logic of signing another goalkeeper either.

Diouf could prove to be shrewd business and I hope his time in Germany has significantly improved him as a player.

I do hope that ole sees that there is talent worth getting who haven't played or currently play in Scandinavia.

Time will tell I suppose.

Indeed. I think (and hope) Solskjær does these transfers because he's got the contacts to make them happen fast, and as a statement of intent. Dæhli and Eikrem I think are both reasonable signings, Diouf a bit more risky considering his past in the PL, but due to the contract situation I'd say it's a risk that might very well be worth taking.

So basically they are all shite? Jog on u Buffoon

No, don't worry CantonG. I just wanted to be a counter-weight towards a lot of (mainly norwegian) users who I feel might have overrestimated the players, and being a bit too positive. I hope as much as anyone that they'll be a success, but if they don't, they might end up getting the status that Paul Konchesky had in Liverpool. Being norwegian, I would love for players from Norway to take the PL by storm (not to mention Solskjær). I just wanted to give a more nuanced picture, and at the end of the day, Solskjær is to be trusted more than me in his calls.

So in a nutshell, do you feel they will flop?

So basically they are all shite? Jog on u Buffoon

No, don't worry CantonG. I just wanted to be a counter-weight towards a lot of (mainly norwegian) users who I feel might have overrestimated the players, and being a bit too positive. I hope as much as anyone that they'll be a success, but if they don't, they might end up getting the status that Paul Konchesky had in Liverpool. Being norwegian, I would love for players from Norway to take the PL by storm (not to mention Solskjær). I just wanted to give a more nuanced picture, and at the end of the day, Solskjær is to be trusted more than me in his calls.

Theres of course a chance they could be shit, but there's also a good chance they could be a big hit in the prem, no1 knows, it's going to be a exciting 2nd half of the season that's for sure

So basically they are all shite? Jog on u Buffoon

a bit harsh in my opinion..

So basically they are all shite? Jog on u Buffoon

No, don't worry CantonG. I just wanted to be a counter-weight towards a lot of (mainly norwegian) users who I feel might have overrestimated the players, and being a bit too positive. I hope as much as anyone that they'll be a success, but if they don't, they might end up getting the status that Paul Konchesky had in Liverpool. Being norwegian, I would love for players from Norway to take the PL by storm (not to mention Solskjær). I just wanted to give a more nuanced picture, and at the end of the day, Solskjær is to be trusted more than me in his calls.

So in a nutshell, do you feel they will flop?

In a nutshell, not the two that are just about to sign.

So basically they are all shite? Jog on u Buffoon

No, don't worry CantonG. I just wanted to be a counter-weight towards a lot of (mainly norwegian) users who I feel might have overrestimated the players, and being a bit too positive. I hope as much as anyone that they'll be a success, but if they don't, they might end up getting the status that Paul Konchesky had in Liverpool. Being norwegian, I would love for players from Norway to take the PL by storm (not to mention Solskjær). I just wanted to give a more nuanced picture, and at the end of the day, Solskjær is to be trusted more than me in his calls.

So in a nutshell, do you feel they will flop?

In a nutshell, not the two that are just about to sign.

So we have no need to worry, the other two are possibilities at the moment. Even if we do, no offence but I'd trust solskjaers judgement

The OP is a typical Norwegian negative nancy, complete with delusions of irrelevance.

They had to sell Eikrem. Herenveen are in a position of no choice. So the fact they are selling him again since joining in the summer for just 3m tells us absolutely nothing.

Diouf was played as a lone striker with no service and no playmaker in Blackburn by the most incompetent and defensive manager among managers who can show any sort of results in the PL. The fact he even scored once is a miracle.

I don't think anyone is expecting Dæhli to be anything more than a longer term talent.

As this forum has had an influx of Norwegians lately, I think I'd just post a few worries I have regarding Solskjærs signings. I am Norwegian btw, and have been a Cardiff supporter for some time (my first match was home to Southampton in 2011, it was late september and wonderful weather) and I joined this forum somewhat later.

In regards to Dæhli, I have few worries - the kid is the best talent Norway has seen since... probably forever, at least in regards to technical ability. That said, he should be regarded as just that, a talent, and it is in no way a given he will shine and develop into a fantastic player. But in my opinion he's got alot of things going for him, and norwegian players are usually quite down to earth (in starch contrast to Zlatan and Bendtner from our neighbouring countries). The Norwegian League is just about to start pre-season, so don't expect him to be match fit.

As for Eikrem, I'm a bit more worried. Apparantly he's done well enough in the Netherlands, but that league is not what it used to be, and there has been quite a few players doing really well in Norway going there without much success. The fact that Heerenveen bought him just this summer and is already letting him go for a sum repartedly around £2-3m isn't too convincing. From what I have seen of him I'm very worried he's not any better than what we already have, and I think new signings should be stronger than what we already have (except talents). Our central midfield is also the area of least concern, along with the goalkeepers. I do hope he proves a success though.

We've also been linked to Mame Biram Diouf, formerly Molde and Man Utd. Whilst at United he went on loan to Blackburn and scored 3 goals in 26 league appearances. This is not at all something I find comforting, thought to be fair he's done well enough in the Bundesliga with 23 goals in 49 apps. On the plus side, his contract runs out this summer, and as such should be possible to get for a modest sum.

Nyland, the goalkeeper, is simply pointless to sign. He simply isn't better than Marshall or Lewis, and having him as 3rd choice is pretty pointless as he wouldn't play anyway. I believe the best training for goalkeepers is playing games, something he'll get in Norway. Let him stay and develop in Norway and if he's starting to show real signs of becoming real class, Solskjær will probably be able to sign him regardless.

There are some speculation in the Norwegian media that Solskjær had a gentleman's agreement with Vegard Forren on signing him if Solskjær ever got a job in the PL. Forren had a brief spell at Southampton, where he played a total of 0 games (was signed by Adkins, Pochettino never used him). I have seen nothing in him suggesting he's better than Turner or Hudson so I really hope (and think) those rumours are b*ll*cks.

Norway have a good amount of talent about, as we have quite strict rules regarding home players (i.e. Eikrem wasn't counted as a homegrown player due to his years in Manchester, although he's born and raised in Molde and his father had over 200 games for the club). This means there have been a surge of youth development, and there is much talent about - as seen when the U21's of Norway thrashed the English U21 side 3-1 this summer, with the English scoring on a cheaply given penalty. In the 90's Norwegian players flooded into the PL, with players like Solskjær, Flo x2, Berg, (Ronny) Johnsen, Bjørnebye, Leonhardsen, Bakke and many more. Since then however, the PL has gotten a lot better in terms of technical ability, while the Norwegian League has not developed at all (if anything stagnated). As such, it is easier for young players to get first team action, though there are few (if any) players in Norway I think could take the step into the PL comfortably based on current quality. And Molde is far from being the only club who develop talents in Norway, Strømsgodset (this years winner who's also a feeder club of Man City) for example has done much with far fewer means than Molde - whose owner is considerably richer than Vincent Tan by the way.

I'm a bit worried about Solskjær getting too many of his former men into the club. I think a lot of my fellow countrymen who has joined this forum recently is a bit too naive and optimistic about the (potential) signings, and I think most are supporters of other teams - Molde and Man Utd for the most part. That said, both Eikrem and Dæhli has experince from living in the UK and the football culture (team talks, language, training session, banter etc) so I'm not too worried about those in particular. However, these signings will be 'Solskjærs men', and if they flop many supporters may turn on him (unless the results keep coming). On the plus side, at least he isn't bringing in 35-year-old toothless defenders, but young players with technical ability.

Good insightful post Mono. I am happy with OGS to bring in this potential at the moment, at least he has worked with them so should know their temperament and capabilities, unlike Malkys more risky acquisitions. You mentioned the Norway under 21s, is there anyone from that squad you feel OGS should be acquiring for our future?

A very good post mate, with concerns that I also share with these new signings,
I'm hoping that he casts his transfer net further than Norway, and we get some real quality in from elsewhere

Nhelpful and thoughtful post thank you! Echoed some of my uninformed views. Surely it must be time for Joe Lewis to move on? Showing no signs of challenging arguably the PL's best keeper. Moore is excellent with more potential.

Don't want national cliques forming either; multi- national and multi-talented is good. I hope the manager's standing in the game aattracts names from all around.

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

Well said Nukes

Thanks for the post.

I'm actually quite excited about the prospect of mame dieuf (however it's spelt) when he played for Blackburn he was in a poor side on a bad run.

Plus he was younger then.

I wish OGS would look at some non Scandinavian players saying that.

We are already an advert for Malaysia , I don't want to be a Norwegian one as well.

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

agreed...

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

Bang on the money Nukes, the op was well thought out and informative, unlike some posters who merely spout that so and so are going to be shit or are shit, at least Monomachos was able to qualify his concerns!

I can't understand some of the posters on here, who are too quick to jump on people's posts, especially when the poster has taken a lot of time to post a very refreshing interesting read, which I'd like to thank him for!

I personally didn't realise that they hadn't even started Pre season in Norway, so this information will hopefully explain why he may not hit the ground running for us immediately and stop some of our more idiotic posters, labelling him as another waste of money etc, at least until he has had a decent amount of game time!

I have to agree with Hexecutive on the Eikrem transfer, as it's clear that Herenveen have to sell players, as Van Basten has stated it himself!

I personally feel that the board has got a lot better since the Norwegians came aboard, but I have no idea why Hexecutive had to open his decent response to Monomachos, by being insulting!

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

agreed...

Even keyboard warriors are allowed an opinion on here.
Is there some sort of test to pass before you can post?
It's not a bad thread at all, seen a lot worse to be honest.

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

agreed...

Even keyboard warriors are allowed an opinion on here.
Is there some sort of test to pass before you can post?
It's not a bad thread at all, seen a lot worse to be honest.

Okay.

Can't really call your first post on this thread an opinion and it doesn't contribute anything to the thread!

If you have a worthwhile contribution to make to what was a decent op, then why don't you post your opinion now?

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

agreed...

Even keyboard warriors are allowed an opinion on here.
Is there some sort of test to pass before you can post?
It's not a bad thread at all, seen a lot worse to be honest.

Okay.

Can't really call your first post on this thread an opinion and it doesn't contribute anything to the thread!

If you have a worthwhile contribution to make to what was a decent op, then why don't you post your opinion now?

I did, I said "Okay"
At least I was not ignorant and said nothing.

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

agreed...

Even keyboard warriors are allowed an opinion on here.
Is there some sort of test to pass before you can post?
It's not a bad thread at all, seen a lot worse to be honest.

Your avatar is quite ironic considering what you did to the OP

Why?
The word "Okay" is not a wind up or trolling for bites?

Your not allowed to have an opinion on this forum good or bad, you get all the cry babies moaning that this forum has gone to the dogs bunch of fannies

Stop crying like babies just because a few people disagreed with the OP, get a life

Your not allowed to have an opinion on this forum good or bad, you get all the cry babies moaning that this forum has gone to the dogs bunch of fannies

Negative and positive opinions are definitely welcome on this board, thanks for your valuable input!

By the replies by many on here this is why this forum has been going to the Dogs and many decent posters have left. The OP was well thought out and written, giving his personal views which he is entitled to do only to be put down by the keyboard warriors that stain this forum. Anyway thanks for your views that was an interesting read.

agreed...

Even keyboard warriors are allowed an opinion on here.
Is there some sort of test to pass before you can post?
It's not a bad thread at all, seen a lot worse to be honest.

Okay.

Can't really call your first post on this thread an opinion and it doesn't contribute anything to the thread!

If you have a worthwhile contribution to make to what was a decent op, then why don't you post your opinion now?

I did, I said "Okay"
At least I was not ignorant and said nothing.

As I said, your "Okay " contributed nothing to the thread and does appear to be, errm ignorant!

It would have been better if you hadn't responded at all!

See, it's all about opinions and perceptions. I don't see it that way and am entitled to post as I wish.
I was not abusive in any way shape or form.
Yet you are now having a go at me for my response.
I will respond how I like as long as it's not abusive.
Thanks for your input though.

Well done on managing to compile a few sentences together in one post!