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Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:24 pm
' Solskjaer is expected to reject them on the advice of his old Manchester United mentor. '
Joe Lovejoy at Cardiff City Stadium
The Observer.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was on the point of turning down Cardiff's managerial vacancy on Saturday night, which will leave the Welsh club nursing a double disappointment after an added-time equaliser by Jack Colback denied them what would have been a morale-enhancing victory.
Solskjaer is expected to reject them on the advice of his old Manchester United mentor, Sir Alex Ferguson, whose golden rule in such things is: choose the owner, not the club. Mehmet Dalman, the Cardiff chairman, has been charged with the responsibility for finding Malky Mackay's successor, and could have done with a win to help him sell the job.
Goals from Jordon Mutch and Fraizer Campbell appeared to have secured maximum points, but Sunderland pulled one back in the 83rd minute through substitute Steven Fletcher, then salvaged a point when Colback's shot was deflected in off Peter Whittingham.
Dalman admitted that he had spoken to Solskjaer, but would not say when. He added: "I only have one candidate in mind" – and ruled out the Turkish journeyman Yilmaz Vural. "I am not getting a Turkish manager, I can categorically state. There is a manager who keeps putting himself forward. It is not going to happen."
Mackay's dismissal was undoubtedly unpopular, but Cardiff played as if a weight had been taken from their shoulders. The off-the-field soap opera was finally over and the players went about their work with a confidence that had been missing from their play for weeks.
Mutch, the man of the match, was booked early on for diving, headed over from six yards in the third minute, then made amends in the sixth when Valentin Roberge's error paved the way for Mutch to score with a meaty drive from the 18-yard line which flew in with the aid of a deflection off Modibo Diakité.
Roberge and Diakité were only playing because Sunderland were without their regular centre-backs, Wes Brown and John O'Shea, who were suspended and injured respectively. Another notable absentee was Adam Johnson, who was ill and gave way to Sebastian Larsson.
Cardiff were dominant throughout the first half but failed to translate their territorial supremacy into goals. Instead, Kim Bo-kyung's shot from distance was touched over by Vito Mannone and the diving header with which Campbell met Mutch's right-wing cross ran inches wide of the far post.
It took half an hour for Sunderland to assemble a decent attack, Ki Sung-yong working himself a shooting chance which goalkeeper David Marshall parried. When the ball ran loose, Jozy Altidore ought to have equalised at minimal range, but the finish was typical of a striker with one goal in 17 appearances. Just before the interval they fashioned another chance, Marshall saving from a Fabio Borini attempt on goal.
Borini, on loan from Liverpool, had to be substituted at the interval when he was taken to hospital with a stomach ailment. He was released later in the evening after being placed on a drip, and is expected to travel back to the north-easton Sunday . The experienced Fletcher replaced him and became the focal point of the Sunderland attack.
Cardiff kept their collective feet on the accelerator and doubled their advantage after 57 minutes when Mutch ran through the defence and centred from the left for Campbell to apply a routine finish from six yards.
But at 2-0 they went into what-we-have-we-hold mode too early, withdrawing Craig Noone, who had destroyed Andrea Dossena, and sending on the more defensively inclined Don Cowie.
The initiative changed hands and Sunderland profited when Fletcher, inside the six-yard box, tucked away Emanuele Giaccherini's cross from the left, condemning the home crowd to a hearts-in-the mouth finish which duly arrived when Marshall was beaten by substitute Colback's last-gasp strike.
Full of praise for his players' "character", Sunderland's manager Gus Poyet said: "I do feel we are still going to be a Premier League team next season. We are never going to give in. To beat us you are going to have to be very good or to fight very hard. We are moving in the right direction going into the New Year."
Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:40 pm
If Solskjaer was looking for a job working with the insane in Britain surely he's better off taking charge of the Rampton first xi than Cardiff.
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:18 pm
If he reads the negativity some put out on this forum he won't come.
The anti Tan brigade have already brought the exit of Malky forward and they now seem to be doing their best to frighten off any future quality managers as well.
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:22 pm
Can you blame him?
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:23 pm
Skewett wrote:If he reads the negativity some put out on this forum he won't come.
The anti Tan brigade have already brought the exit of Malky forward and they now seem to be doing their best to frighten off any future quality managers as well.
Every word you speak is utter rubbish
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:28 pm
novice wrote:Skewett wrote:If he reads the negativity some put out on this forum he won't come.
The anti Tan brigade have already brought the exit of Malky forward and they now seem to be doing their best to frighten off any future quality managers as well.
Every word you speak is utter rubbish

I can see the storyline now... SOLSKAER REJECTS CARDIFF MANAGERIAL ROLE AFTER READING FORUM THREADS...
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:36 pm
Skewett wrote:If he reads the negativity some put out on this forum he won't come.
The anti Tan brigade have already brought the exit of Malky forward and they now seem to be doing their best to frighten off any future quality managers as well.
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:39 pm
come on we all know a yes man is gonna come in(sven)
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:39 pm
I believe this originated from The Sun
I doubt there is one credible or direct quote
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:43 pm
CityGent wrote:I believe this originated from The Sun
I doubt there is one credible or direct quote
Agree lakes . The Ravel Morrison punt gives it away but this lot on here don't look further than the bullshit press stories.
Never make CID
Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:31 pm
He wont come here.
Hes been taught well and obviously listened given his managerial record.
And we know fergies views on tan
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:07 pm
CityGent wrote:I believe this originated from The Sun
I doubt there is one credible or direct quote
really...................so the Marshall stuff was shite too?
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:09 pm
This is the same Joe Lovejoy who worked on the Echo during the 80's and advised the then board to appoint Alan Durban as successor to Len Ashurst because Durban sides "Don't Do Relegation".
The rest is history but the daft tw*t still thinks his opinion on anything matters.
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:11 pm
Skewett wrote:If he reads the negativity some put out on this forum he won't come.
The anti Tan brigade have already brought the exit of Malky forward and they now seem to be doing their best to frighten off any future quality managers as well.
Not sure how this one fuses together. The anti Tan hero was Malky, not sure why though....
I am sure Tan is scaring off a lot of managers
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:54 pm
soulofthesea wrote:CityGent wrote:I believe this originated from The Sun
I doubt there is one credible or direct quote
really...................so the Marshall stuff was shite too?
What Marshall stuff? You've lost me
Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:00 pm
This is a GREAT job to be in.
* Great Club
* Great Wage
* Top Flight Football
* Best League in the World
* Ideal Opportunity To Make His Name
If it doesnt work out he always got TAN as an excuse
Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:57 pm
It's going to be someone with half a brain and that half a brain is going to be a bit crazy. HOLLOWAY comes to mind.

. I reckon he would murder old Tan within a week.
Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:23 pm
The press and media are doing the best they can to discredit us further, dragging up stories about interference and the Keeper should shoot more, overplaying the joking boo, they don't want us to have a good Manager and get back on track. Tan is box office for all of them, there is a feeding frenzy and they can smell blood. Tan is now box office and they are trying to put Managers off, they would rather us appoint a shit Manager and watch us get relegated, while filling there papers and phone ins with comments laughing at us. They love a Blackburn, Pompy or QPR situation.
Fingers crossed Tan can sort his PR out, appoint a top Manager and leave him get on with keeping us up and strengthening year after year, until Tan floats us and moves on. Then the new owner can turn us back blue and we can get on with the next chapter.
If Tan and Delman can ger this right we can go the Southampton route rather than Blackburn route.....
Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:28 pm
Bluebina wrote:The press and media are doing the best they can to discredit us further, dragging up stories about interference and the Keeper should shoot more, overplaying the joking boo, they don't want us to have a good Manager and get back on track. Tan is box office for all of them, there is a feeding frenzy and they can smell blood. Tan is now box office and they are trying to put Managers off, they would rather us appoint a shit Manager and watch us get relegated, while filling there papers and phone ins with comments laughing at us. They love a Blackburn, Pompy or QPR situation.
Fingers crossed Tan can sort his PR out, appoint a top Manager and leave him get on with keeping us up and strengthening year after year, until Tan floats us and moves on. Then the new owner can turn us back blue and we can get on with the next chapter.
If Tan and Delman can ger this right we can go the Southampton route rather than Blackburn route.....
Most sensible post ive seen on here in weeks
Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:07 pm
Bluebina wrote:The press and media are doing the best they can to discredit us further, dragging up stories about interference and the Keeper should shoot more, overplaying the joking boo, they don't want us to have a good Manager and get back on track. Tan is box office for all of them, there is a feeding frenzy and they can smell blood. Tan is now box office and they are trying to put Managers off, they would rather us appoint a shit Manager and watch us get relegated, while filling there papers and phone ins with comments laughing at us. They love a Blackburn, Pompy or QPR situation.
Fingers crossed Tan can sort his PR out, appoint a top Manager and leave him get on with keeping us up and strengthening year after year, until Tan floats us and moves on. Then the new owner can turn us back blue and we can get on with the next chapter.
If Tan and Delman can ger this right we can go the Southampton route rather than Blackburn route.....
Of course it's all the fault of the media
Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:11 pm
"choose the owner, not the club" which half decent manager is going to want to choose Vincent Tan as their boss?
We will end up with a 2nd rate manager, who's only passion for the game is the money he can take from it.
We need to move on from Malky now - but we will regret making him leave by the end of the season
Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:20 pm
I regret it already
Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:29 pm
alexc wrote:Bluebina wrote:The press and media are doing the best they can to discredit us further, dragging up stories about interference and the Keeper should shoot more, overplaying the joking boo, they don't want us to have a good Manager and get back on track. Tan is box office for all of them, there is a feeding frenzy and they can smell blood. Tan is now box office and they are trying to put Managers off, they would rather us appoint a shit Manager and watch us get relegated, while filling there papers and phone ins with comments laughing at us. They love a Blackburn, Pompy or QPR situation.
Fingers crossed Tan can sort his PR out, appoint a top Manager and leave him get on with keeping us up and strengthening year after year, until Tan floats us and moves on. Then the new owner can turn us back blue and we can get on with the next chapter.
If Tan and Delman can ger this right we can go the Southampton route rather than Blackburn route.....
Of course it's all the fault of the media

I didn't say it was all the medias fault, just that they are trying to make us the joke club of the season, it's up to Tan whether he falls for it or sorts his PR out keeps his head down and gets the right Manager and takes us forward?
Half of what they are saying is bollox and taken from message boards anyway...
Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:20 pm
Bluebina wrote:I didn't say it was all the medias fault, just that they are trying to make us the joke club of the season...
We don't need any help there mate. Tan (and us bending over for him) has made us a laughing stock throughout the football WORLD! I was on holiday recently in Kenya and had the piss taken out of me by the locals FFS!!
Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:11 pm
Bluebina wrote:alexc wrote:Bluebina wrote:The press and media are doing the best they can to discredit us further, dragging up stories about interference and the Keeper should shoot more, overplaying the joking boo, they don't want us to have a good Manager and get back on track. Tan is box office for all of them, there is a feeding frenzy and they can smell blood. Tan is now box office and they are trying to put Managers off, they would rather us appoint a shit Manager and watch us get relegated, while filling there papers and phone ins with comments laughing at us. They love a Blackburn, Pompy or QPR situation.
Fingers crossed Tan can sort his PR out, appoint a top Manager and leave him get on with keeping us up and strengthening year after year, until Tan floats us and moves on. Then the new owner can turn us back blue and we can get on with the next chapter.
If Tan and Delman can ger this right we can go the Southampton route rather than Blackburn route.....
Of course it's all the fault of the media

I didn't say it was all the medias fault, just that they are trying to make us the joke club of the season, it's up to Tan whether he falls for it or sorts his PR out keeps his head down and gets the right Manager and takes us forward?
Half of what they are saying is bollox and taken from message boards anyway...
Get real! This club is in Cloud Cuckoo land and being shafted big time. The only jokers who will bust a gut to manage here are either expensive has beens or sycophantic wannabees. The Premiership dream which was eagerly sucked up to by many has made our club an international joke and ruined our credentials for a long long time!Red or Dead? No blinded by a wad and sold down the river.
Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:09 am
A source at the Welsh club told The Daily Telegraph last night that Mehmet Dalman, the Cardiff chairman, believes a deal with Solskjaer is "not dead in the water" and is hopeful that the Norwegian can be persuaded to take over the Premier League side.
Dalman has held a series of phone calls with Solskjaer and has not only guaranteed funds for the transfer window, but also given assurances about the structure that would exist between the manager and Vincent Tan, the owner. "Solskjaer has not said 'no' yet," the source said.
However, the fears are that Solskjaer could heed the advice of Sir Alex Ferguson, who is close to Mackay, the former Cardiff manager fighting to receive pounds 2.5?million in compensation from Tan. Ferguson has always said young managers should look at a club's chairman (or owner) when considering a job. But such is Dalman's conviction that he has not even yet considered any other candidate.
David Kerslake has been told that he may not only be caretaker for the league match at Arsenal on Wednesday, but also for the FA Cup third-round tie at Newcastle on Sunday. Cardiff will head to the Emirates trying to forget the last eight minutes of Saturday's draw against Sunderland, when they sacrificed a two-goal advantage. After securing four points in three days, Sunderland go into their home match against Aston Villa on New Year's Day confident that their captain, John O'Shea, will be back after a shoulder injury.
Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:01 am
Beech1927 wrote:It's going to be someone with half a brain and that half a brain is going to be a bit crazy. HOLLOWAY comes to mind.

. I reckon he would murder old Tan within a week.
Or else he would complete Ollie's nervous breakdown.
Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:11 am
I Would say NO to OGS .
Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:13 am
First of all, who is Dalman seeking the counsel of when seeking a new manager? He has no football expertise so how can he make a qualified evaluation.
Secondly, what s the infatuation with Solskjaer? He's had some success in Norway, but what does that translate to ... success in League One?
Thirdly, why would a manager come in here when there are no high level football people already here? No director (which isn't always necessary) and unknown quality in scouting possible transfers.
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