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The bottomline is Tan should have took control of finances..

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:39 pm

not blaming everyone else because the structure at the helmof the club wasn't right FFS!!!

Giving a manager unlimited funds to buy players with no questions asked is like giving a 16 year old an unlimited debit card to go shopping with FFS!!!

Totally un-professional on his part.

People have questioned the amount of money which are being paid to some of the players but surely if the club was in abidding war with other clubs to get these players then surely the agents done his job properly but for the club to sign off the cheques without asking questions then they must be held responsible over this and no-one else.

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:40 pm

So if he interferes you moan. When it comes out he didnt interfere and Malky had free reign....you moan.

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:41 pm

Military Junta wrote:not blaming everyone else because the structure at the helmof the club wasn't right FFS!!!

Giving a manager unlimited funds to buy players with no questions asked is like giving a 16 year old an unlimited debit card to go shopping with FFS!!!

Totally un-professional on his part.

People have questioned the amount of money which are being paid to some of the players but surely if the club was in abidding war with other clubs to get these players then surely the agents done his job properly but for the club to sign off the cheques without asking questions then they must be held responsible over this and no-one else.



ermmm.... he gave malky the money he needed for the players malky wanted. malky then spent the money irresponsibly.

its like giving a kid £10 and he goes to the shops and buys a fredo for £10. whos fault is it then? gotta be the kids fault too dont u think?

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:41 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:So if he interferes you moan. When it comes out he didnt interfere and Malky had free reign....you moan.



haha so true craig, we agree on a lot #manlove

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:43 pm

Military Junta wrote:not blaming everyone else because the structure at the helmof the club wasn't right FFS!!!

Giving a manager unlimited funds to buy players with no questions asked is like giving a 16 year old an unlimited debit card to go shopping with FFS!!!

Totally un-professional on his part.

People have questioned the amount of money which are being paid to some of the players but surely if the club was in abidding war with other clubs to get these players then surely the agents done his job properly but for the club to sign off the cheques without asking questions then they must be held responsible over this and no-one else.

i agree with you tan trusted the club with his money and someone has fucked up big time :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:43 pm

jezzy666 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:not blaming everyone else because the structure at the helmof the club wasn't right FFS!!!

Giving a manager unlimited funds to buy players with no questions asked is like giving a 16 year old an unlimited debit card to go shopping with FFS!!!

Totally un-professional on his part.

People have questioned the amount of money which are being paid to some of the players but surely if the club was in abidding war with other clubs to get these players then surely the agents done his job properly but for the club to sign off the cheques without asking questions then they must be held responsible over this and no-one else.



ermmm.... he gave malky the money he needed for the players malky wanted. malky then spent the money irresponsibly.

its like giving a kid £10 and he goes to the shops and buys a fredo for £10. whos fault is it then? gotta be the kids fault too dont u think?


No club just gives the manager money to spend on whoever he wants FFS!!!! Every signing should go through the board as the bottom line is that the football club is acompany so any expensive outgoing should be agreed by the board of that said company

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:43 pm

He set a budget to spend

He set up his staff including malkey , moody , lim to deal with that budget and a lot of it was squandered .
That has resulted in 2/3 being sacked for the mistakes , I'm sure he won't be so lax next time

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:45 pm

thomasblue wrote:He set a budget to spend

He set up his staff including malkey , moody , lim to deal with that budget and a lot of it was squandered .
That has resulted in 2/3 being sacked for the mistakes , I'm sure he won't be so lax next time

true :thumbup:

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:45 pm

The money burnt hole in Malkys hand LMFAO

Malky so unexperienced at this level and it showed at the end in the way of performances - they were dire

Lets hope a new broom sweeps clean

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:46 pm

If I gave a kid £10 and they bought a Freddo then I'd be thinking "oh stupid was I to give £10 to a child and send them to the shop on their own".

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:47 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:So if he interferes you moan. When it comes out he didnt interfere and Malky had free reign....you moan.


There's a difference between having free reign on team affairs within the squad and a free reign on the clubs transfer policy!!!
No-one would moan about Tan raising questions with transfers at the time of the transfer but to answer questions MONTHS after is simply an attempt to push the blame onto someone else.

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:53 pm

Tan was stupid to trust Malky, I doubt he will do it again.

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:53 pm

Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:56 pm

Military Junta wrote:
jezzy666 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:not blaming everyone else because the structure at the helmof the club wasn't right FFS!!!

Giving a manager unlimited funds to buy players with no questions asked is like giving a 16 year old an unlimited debit card to go shopping with FFS!!!

Totally un-professional on his part.

People have questioned the amount of money which are being paid to some of the players but surely if the club was in abidding war with other clubs to get these players then surely the agents done his job properly but for the club to sign off the cheques without asking questions then they must be held responsible over this and no-one else.



ermmm.... he gave malky the money he needed for the players malky wanted. malky then spent the money irresponsibly.

its like giving a kid £10 and he goes to the shops and buys a fredo for £10. whos fault is it then? gotta be the kids fault too dont u think?


No club just gives the manager money to spend on whoever he wants FFS!!!! Every signing should go through the board as the bottom line is that the football club is acompany so any expensive outgoing should be agreed by the board of that said company


You ever heard of a comma? :lol:

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:57 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:58 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


spot on

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Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:59 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.

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Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:01 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:04 pm

Not the club finances, but the transfer budget. I agree they shouldn't have been trusted :thumbright:

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:04 pm

Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:04 pm

Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!

Surely as a head of recruitment you are tasked with recruiting and all that that entails.

maybe Tan thought he didnt know enough about football and left it to people that did?

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:09 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:11 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!


Moody according to the Daily Mail (who have been spot on all season) or Lim according to people on here. Up to you who you decide.

As I said both parties at fault and there is no excuses for Malky and Moody as some people are trying to do

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:11 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!

The cheques signed off would have been for an initial transfer. Not the add ons

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:14 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!

The cheques signed off would have been for an initial transfer. Not the add ons


Come on Craig you aren't that naive!!!! Are you really saying that the Manager and Head of Recruitment also drew up the legal agreements/contracts within a football club too then!!!

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:15 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!

The cheques signed off would have been for an initial transfer. Not the add ons


Come on Craig you aren't that naive!!!! Are you really saying that the Manager and Head of Recruitment also drew up the legal agreements/contracts within a football club too then!!!

No. The legal deapartment would have.

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:15 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!

The cheques signed off would have been for an initial transfer. Not the add ons

doesnt the company sec sign them any way on behalf of cardiff city fc ltd?

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:17 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!


Moody according to the Daily Mail (who have been spot on all season) or Lim according to people on here. Up to you who you decide.

As I said both parties at fault and there is no excuses for Malky and Moody as some people are trying to do


Excatly so why isn't one of Tans men fired too then!!!! Classic case of 'passing the buck' by Tans side

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:18 pm

its like giving a kid £10 and he goes to the shops and buys a fredo for £10. whos fault is it then? gotta be the kids fault too dont u think?

I was gutted when them FREDO's went up from 10p to 15p, had to buy them bloody finger of fudge for 10p or space invaders FFS

The way things are going up - £10 for a FREDO will be a bargain soon !!!!! Ha,ha

Just saying like !!!

Bloooobirds !! :D :old: :D :old:

Re: The bottomline is Tan should have took control of financ

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:20 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Maybe he trusted Malky/Moody and they let him down


Did Tan make his billions then by trusting everyone who works under him do the right thing without any checks then..?


I would think he does, do you think he signs off every cheque for all his companies? I doubt it. He doesn't have to trust everyone but the manager and the head of recruitment are bug jobs so they should be trusted.
I don't think any new manager will be, a lesson learnt.


The manager and Head of Recruitment shouldn't be in charge of the clubs finances FFS!!!


They were in charge of a budget set to them by Tan which they overspent on.

I can see why Tan trusted them, seeing as he has no knowledge of football surely you would put faith in your manager who has been in the game for a long time. Yes, its very naive and he is partially to blame for putting that trust in Malky but Malky and Moody have alot to answer for how the money was spent


So surely if they overspent a transfer budget then who was the person signing off the cheques!!!!!


Moody according to the Daily Mail (who have been spot on all season) or Lim according to people on here. Up to you who you decide.

As I said both parties at fault and there is no excuses for Malky and Moody as some people are trying to do


Excatly so why isn't one of Tans men fired too then!!!! Classic case of 'passing the buck' by Tans side


You mean Simon Lim who is now no longer in charge of such dealings and Delhmat is now in charge. I think Tan has handled it quite well, however his handling of the Malky affair was shocking