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DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:40 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... =hootsuite



*See below (post) for full transcript

Re: interesting read

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:41 pm

Cornelius on 45k p/w :o :o :o :o

He best start banging in the goals now he's fit!!!

Re: interesting read

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:43 pm

Super Kev wrote:Cornelius on 45k p/w :o :o :o :o

He best start banging in the goals now he's fit!!!


that part shocked me the most the jump from 6 grand to 45 grand

Re: interesting read

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:46 pm

citybluechris wrote:
Super Kev wrote:Cornelius on 45k p/w :o :o :o :o

He best start banging in the goals now he's fit!!!


that part shocked me the most the jump from 6 grand to 45 grand


Crazy! He'd probably have accepted 20k!

Re: interesting read

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:48 pm

Super Kev wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Super Kev wrote:Cornelius on 45k p/w :o :o :o :o

He best start banging in the goals now he's fit!!!


that part shocked me the most the jump from 6 grand to 45 grand


Crazy! He'd probably have accepted 20k!


pissing 45 grand a week on a player malky said is not ready and is for the future would piss me off, its all down to money and if all these stats are true on this link then no wonder moody and malky are gone

Re: interesting read

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:51 pm

"Moody has since joined Crystal Palace. He was Cardiff’s authorised signatory in negotiations with clubs, players and agents.

Although this is highly unusual — normally the chief executive signs off transfer deals — there is nothing to suggest Moody or Mackay have done anything improper."


Very interesting. So Moody signed the deals and not Tan/Lim as suggested by many on here.

Hmmmmmm

Re: interesting read

Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:55 pm

Gonzo wrote:"Moody has since joined Crystal Palace. He was Cardiff’s authorised signatory in negotiations with clubs, players and agents.

Although this is highly unusual — normally the chief executive signs off transfer deals — there is nothing to suggest Moody or Mackay have done anything improper."


Very interesting. So Moody signed the deals and not Tan/Lim as suggested by many on here.

Hmmmmmm


as the theme on here goes the truth always comes out lol, lets just hope the relationship between tan and the new manager is a lot better and things on the pitch can become stable

Re: interesting read

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:01 am

Wow - Malky has wasted sooooo much money!!!!

No wonder he's been sacked, he's trying to bankrupt us....

Re: interesting read

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:05 am

as much as tan is the villain he is a businessman and there will always be two sides to every story even if you don't like tan you must see why he would be pissed off if these figures are correct

MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:06 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... f-job.html

EXCLUSIVE: Revealed - The £50m deals that angered Tan and cost Mackay his Cardiff job

Vincent Tan was angered by Malky Mackay's spending spree in the summer
Andreas Cornelius, who has yet to score for the club, could cost £10m
John Brayford, Peter Odemwingie and Gary Medel signings criticised
Sportsmail reveal image rights and agent fees part of the problem, too
Mackay and sacked head of recruitment Iain Moody defend investments
David Kerslake and Joe McBride will take charge for Saturday's game

By Riath Al-Samarrai and Neil Ashton

PUBLISHED: 23:00, 27 December 2013 | UPDATED: 23:07, 27 December 2013

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Malky Mackay was fired as Cardiff manager on Friday as the full details of the club’s £50million summer spending spree emerged for the first time.

Cardiff chairman Vincent Tan sacked Mackay less than 24 hours after the 3-0 defeat at home to Southampton in the Barclays Premier League.

The staggering amounts paid for players, which led to the deterioration of the relationship between Tan and Mackay, can be revealed, along with the massive signing-on fees, image rights deals and fees to agents.

VIDEO: Scroll down for Malky Mackay's last press conference as Cardiff manager
Sacked: Malky Mackay (above) was sacked as manager of Cardiff City by Vincent Tan (below), but Sportsmail can reveal the full extent of the summer that enraged the owner...

Sacked: Malky Mackay (above) was sacked as manager of Cardiff City by Vincent Tan (below), but Sportsmail can reveal the full extent of the summer that enraged the owner...
Controversial: Cardiff owner Vincent Tan has courted controversy for his attitude towards Mackay, who is now favourite for the Baggies position

Waste of money? Andreas Cornelius (left) and John Brayford (right) are just two of the signings that angered Tan
Waste of money? Andreas Cornelius (left) and John Brayford (right) are just two of the signings that angered Tan

Waste of money? Andreas Cornelius (left) and John Brayford (right) are two of the signings that angered Tan


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TIMELINE OF A CRISIS

April 16: Cardiff City are promoted to the Barclays Premier League. Vincent Tan initially promises a cash injection of £25million for new players but that sum is later increased to £35m.

October 8: Mackay's head of recruitment, Iain Moody, who worked with him at Watford, is placed on gardening leave and then sacked. He is replaced by 23-year-old Alisher Apsalyamov, who attended the same Swiss school as one of Tan’s sons. Overspending in the summer is later given as the reason.

October 31: Kazakhstani Apsalyamov, who earlier in the summer had been painting parts of the stadium, stands down from his position as he did not have the correct visa.

December 16: Tan, via Cardiff CEO Simon Lim, releases a statement slamming Mackay for saying after a win over West Brom that, in an ideal world, he would three new signings in January. Lim says Tan is upset and that Mackay will not get a ‘single penny’ to spend. Lim says Cardiff overspent by £15m in the summer.

December 16: Tan sends Mackay a long email criticising his signings, results and the team’s performances. It is understood this email made 27 points, culminating in an ultimatum: resign or be sacked. Mackay replied: ‘No, thank you.’

December 21: Mackay reiterates after losing to Liverpool that he will not resign from his job. He later revealed he expected to be sacked that weekend.

December 22: Chairman Mehmet Dalman, seen as a peace-broker in the saga, issues a club statement that says Mackay will stay as manager for the ‘foreseeable future’ after postponing a holiday to hold an emergency meeting with Tan in London.

December 27: Mackay is sacked.

RIATH AL-SAMARRAI

The signings include £10m on striker Andreas Cornelius, who has yet to score for the club, and more than £2m on full back John Brayford, who has yet to play in the Premier League.

In an extraordinary statement released on Friday, Tan accused Mackay of generating favourable media publicity and that ‘far too much dirty linen had been exposed to the public gaze’.

But Sportsmail understands Tan is still furious with the overspending in the transfer market in the summer and the sums signed off for players who have not performed.

These deals also played a crucial role in October’ s dismissal of head of recruitment Iain Moody. Cardiff’s billionaire backer said that he authorised £35m to be spent while Moody maintains that in meetings held in mid-April the sum agreed was £50m. But Mackay insisted that he had done a good job. ‘As disappointing as today’s decision is, I am able to look back at my time at Cardiff with immense pride,’ he said.

‘A League Cup final followed by promotion to the Premier League for the first time, achieved as winners of the Championship, allowed the club a move back to this elite level after a 51-year absence.

‘I would like to thank everyone who has stood behind me resolutely, especially in these recent turbulent months. I hope that all of the progress that has been made so far will not be impaired in any way by today’s enforced changes.’

Among the signings which angered Tan was Cornelius.

The 20-year-old striker left FC Copenhagen, where he earned £6,000 a week, to sign a five-year contract at Cardiff worth £45,000 a week.

Cardiff paid a club-record £7.668m, possibly rising to £10.93m based on appearances. But he has come on just seven times as a substitute and played only 87 minutes of football since his move from the Danish champions. He has yet to score.

When Tan expressed surprise at the salary being paid to the untested Cornelius, he sought to impose a wage limit on new recruits, including midfielder Gary Medel.

Sevilla, who finished ninth in La Liga last season but who were struggling financially, sold Medel to Cardiff for £10m — though sources in Spain suggested Sevilla valued him at nearer £6m. The fee could rise to £15m, on appearances.

The deal was signed off by Moody when Sevilla arrived in Manchester for Rio Ferdinand’s testimonial at Old Trafford on August 9.
THE FOUR SIGNINGS THAT ANGERED CARDIFF'S OWNER TAN

ANDREAS CORNELIUS (Striker)

Signed from FC Copenhagen for £7.668m, rising to £10.93m

Agent fees: £863,000

Signing-on fee: £1.25m

Salary at FC Copenhagen: £6,000 per week

Salary at Cardiff: £45,000 per week

Appearances: 7 GOALS: 0

PETER ODEMWINGIE (Striker)

Signed from West Brom for £2.25m

Agent fees: £500,000

Salary at Cardiff: Approx. £35,000 per week

Appearances: 15 GOALS: 2

JOHN BRAYFORD (Defender)

Signed from Derby for £1.75m, rising to £2.25m based on appearances

Agent fees: £281,000

Signing-on fee: £416,000

Salary at Cardiff: £18,000 per week

Appearances: 2

GARY MEDEL (Midfielder)

Signed from Sevilla for £10m, rising to £15m

Agent fees: £800,000

Signing-on fee: £1.25m

Image rights deal: £1.6m

Salary at Cardiff: £35,000 per week

Appearances: 17


Costly: Gary Medel has been one of Cardiff's best players since arriving from Sevilla, but he could cost up to £15m

Costly: Gary Medel has been one of Cardiff's best players since arriving from Sevilla, but he could cost up to £15m

Not a fan of Tan: This Cardiff supporter turned up at the stadium after Mackay was axed

Not a fan of Tan: This Cardiff supporter turned up at the stadium after Mackay was axed
Mackay: No meeting scheduled with Vincent Tan
VINCENT TAN'S STATEMENT

'There has been a good deal of publicity generated by and about Mr Malky Mackay over the last few months. Indeed far too much dirty linen has been exposed to the public gaze.

'But, I stress, not by me. Indeed, I have deliberately not responded to this, hoping that the Club can be judged on its football rather than personalised arguments about who said what to whom.

'I have, however, regretfully concluded that it is no longer fair to the Club, its players, its fans, or the public more generally, for this uncomfortable state of affairs to continue. Cardiff City Football Club means far too much to us all for it to be distracted by this.'

Medel, who has been one of Cardiff’s best players, is paid £35,000 a week and was given a £1.25m signing-on fee. He also has an image-rights contract worth £1.6m — even though Mackay refuses all interview requests for the player.

The agents involved in the deal will be paid £800,000 over the course of Medel’s four-year contract.

Among the other signings is full-back Brayford, who arrived from Championship side Derby County in the summer.

Cardiff paid £1.75m, plus £500,000 in additional clauses, to sign one of the most promising players in the league. Brayford, 25, was regarded so highly at Pride Park that they were reluctant to let him quit for less than £3m.

Eventually he signed for Cardiff in July. Cardiff will pay him £416,000 in signing-on fees over the course of his contract and the agent will pick up £281,000. Brayford, who is paid £18,000 a week, has not played in the top flight and wants to leave.

When Cardiff put together a package for Peter Odemwingie, Stoke City were also in the market. Moody and Stoke chief executive Tony Scholes agreed to make the same offer to West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace for the player and let him decide where he wanted to play his football.

The offer was believed to be £2.25m, with the clubs agreeing to pay £500,000 in agents’ fees which was split between two parties.
Sought after: Many clubs wanted Peter Odemwingie from West Brom, but Cardiff were perhaps the 'unlucky' party who secured his services, shelling out £500,000 in agents' costs

Sought after: Many clubs wanted Peter Odemwingie from West Brom, but Cardiff were perhaps the 'unlucky' party who secured his services, shelling out £500,000 in agents' costs

More money to go: Sportsmail can also reveal there is a clause in Steven Caulker's contract meaning Spurs could profit from any further sale

More money to go: Sportsmail can also reveal there is a clause in Steven Caulker's contract meaning Spurs could profit from any further sale

Sportsmail can also reveal a sell-on clause in defender Steven Caulker’s contract.

Caulker was bought from Tottenham for £11m but, if they decide to sell him, Cardiff must pay 50 per cent of any transfer fee over £10m to Tottenham.

Last week Moody began legal proceedings against Cardiff after chief executive Simon Lim released a statement claiming that ‘the overspending of £15m has greatly upset Tan Sri, resulting in the removal of Iain Moody as head of recruitment’. Moody has since joined Crystal Palace. He was Cardiff’s authorised signatory in negotiations with clubs, players and agents.

Although this is highly unusual — normally the chief executive signs off transfer deals — there is nothing to suggest Moody or Mackay have done anything improper.
In charge? CEO Simon Lim (left) is supposedly supposed to sign off on transfer deals

In charge? CEO Simon Lim (left) is supposedly supposed to sign off on transfer deals

Sacked: Iain Moody was relieved of his duties as a authoritative figure behind the signings

Sacked: Iain Moody was relieved of his duties as a authoritative figure behind the signings

Anger: The fans are unhappy with Tan's treatment of manager Mackay and the decision to change the colour of the strip from blue to red

Anger: The fans are unhappy with Tan's treatment of manager Mackay and the decision to change the colour of the strip from blue to red

Waving goodbye: Mackay has defended himself after being ditched

Waving goodbye: Mackay has defended himself after being ditched

Mackay responded by saying in a statement to Sportsmail: ‘All football clubs at the elite level have systems in place for corporate governance. Cardiff City is no exception. A manager, even in the Premier League, does not go out and “sign” players. All recommendations go to his CEO and board. Essentially the chief executive on the board’s behalf, deals with all financial arrangements to finalise any signings.’

It is understood that the club have already undertaken a thorough financial audit, including an email trail, into Cardiff’s transfer business in the summer.

These details are included in board minutes following Moody’s departure and have made it clear there is no financial impropriety or improper conduct.

Moody maintains that his presentation for new players to Lim, the club’s chairman, was approved by Tan after they won promotion to the Premier League.

Cardiff are only one point above the drop zone after they slipped to a ninth defeat of the season at home to Southampton on Boxing Day. Mackay’s assistant David Kerslake is expected to take the team for Saturday’s match against Sunderland. Mackay’s dismissal comes just days after Tan sent his manager an email warning him he must ‘resign or be sacked’.
Protests: Cardiff fans held a large protest on Boxing Day, and at Liverpool last week

Protests: Cardiff fans held a large protest on Boxing Day, and at Liverpool last week
Support: Mackay was backed to the hilt by the Cardiff fans but find himself out of work

Support: Mackay was backed to the hilt by the Cardiff fans but find himself out of work
Thumbs up: Mackay (right) and Tan in happier times and (below) with the Championship trophy

Thumbs up: Mackay (right) and Tan in happier times and (below) with the Championship trophy
Winners: Tan (left) and Mackay celebrate promotion earlier this year

After Mackay was fired, Tan said: ‘There has been a good deal of publicity generated by and about Mr Mackay over the last few months. Indeed far too much dirty linen has been exposed to the public gaze. But, I stress, not by me.

‘Indeed, I have deliberately not responded to this, hoping that the club can be judged on its football rather than personalised arguments about who said what to whom. I have, however, regretfully concluded that it is no longer fair to the club, its players, its fans, or the public more generally, for this uncomfortable state of affairs to continue.

‘Cardiff City Football Club means far too much to us all for it to be distracted by this.’

Yesterday Steve Borley, former chairman and now non-executive director at Cardiff, tweeted: ‘spent all afternoon with him (Mackay) and the staff. Best manager in my lifetime’.

HOW SPORTSMAIL REPORTED THE CHAOS AT CARDIFF

October 9: EXCLUSIVE: His right-hand man is replaced by a 23-year-old Kazakhstani, who is a mate of the owner's son and was PAINTING walls at the club three months ago... but Mackay WON'T quit

October 9: They won't force me out! Bluebirds deny rumours Mackay has been asked to resign as Cardiff manager by owner Tan

November 3: Mackay takes 'dig' at Cardiff owner Tan after hailing sacked Moody in wake of derby win

November 30: Mackay 'not concerned' by Cardiff lining up talks with Turkish boss Vural

December 17: He won't get a 'single penny'! Mackay on brink of exit after Cardiff chief attacks manager over new signings

December 17: I've done nothing wrong! Mackay won't back down as Cardiff transfer row escalates

December 20: Mackay told to resign or be sacked as Cardiff manager by owner Tan... and Solskjaer tops list of potential successors

December 20: Another Cardiff farce: Mackay fails to show for press conference as fans protest against Tan

December 21: EXCLUSIVE: Eriksson being lined up by Cardiff chief Tan to replace Mackay

December 22: Unqualified 23-year-old Apsalyamov leaves role as Cardiff's head of recruitment after visa problems

December 23: Reprieved Mackay STILL facing a fight to keep his job despite dramatic U-turn from Cardiff owner Tan


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Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:07 am

Already posted

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=130910&view=unread#unread

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:08 am

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=130910

posted but better you posted the whole link now people might take their blinkers off :ayatollah:

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:18 am

f**k me if those figures are correct no wonder VT flipped his lid.

800k agent fees .... 45k a week wages ....... Someone's been having a laugh !

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:19 am

Daya wrote:f**k me if those figures are correct no wonder VT flipped his lid.

800k agent fees .... 45k a week wages ....... Someone's been having a laugh !


Totally unprofessional by Tan to let them control the dosh.

Both to blame.

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:20 am

So moody and malky have fucked up hmmmm

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:21 am

Daya wrote:f**k me if those figures are correct no wonder VT flipped his lid.

800k agent fees .... 45k a week wages ....... Someone's been having a laugh !


those figures may be right or may be wrong but ones thing for sure if malky goes to west ham like you predict make sure they don't give him the chequebook lol

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:21 am

wez1927 wrote:So moody and malky have fucked up hmmmm


Both to blame, stupid to let the manager and scout to control the money. Unprofessional.

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:24 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:So moody and malky have fucked up hmmmm


Both to blame, stupid to let the manager and scout to control the money. Unprofessional.

He trusted them to do they're jobs don't think he will be doing that again

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:26 am

wez1927 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:So moody and malky have fucked up hmmmm


Both to blame, stupid to let the manager and scout to control the money. Unprofessional.

He trusted them to do they're jobs don't think he will be doing that again


Doesn't matter, you have to be a idiot to let the manager and scout take control. Unprofessional and not running like a proper Football club.

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:29 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:So moody and malky have fucked up hmmmm


Both to blame, stupid to let the manager and scout to control the money. Unprofessional.

He trusted them to do they're jobs don't think he will be doing that again


Doesn't matter, you have to be a idiot to let the manager and scout take control. Unprofessional and not running like a proper Football club.

Agree but tan will learn from his mistake ,as people keep saying the truth will come out in the end and if this is to be believed no wonder why tan was pissed off with moody and malky for wasting his money

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:32 am

citybluechris wrote:
Daya wrote:f**k me if those figures are correct no wonder VT flipped his lid.

800k agent fees .... 45k a week wages ....... Someone's been having a laugh !


those figures may be right or may be wrong but ones thing for sure if malky goes to west ham like you predict make sure they don't give him the chequebook lol


There be no chance of that with Sullivan :lol:

Re: MAIL ONLINE EXCLUSIVE

Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:52 am

So it comes out Tan was right all along to sack Moody :lol:

Crazy money specially 45k a week on a kid who looks as good as Gestede

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:22 am

"Caulker was bought from Tottenham for £11m but, if they decide to sell him, Cardiff must pay 50 per cent of any transfer fee over £11m to Tottenham."

So basically we have to sell Caulker for over 22 mil to make any money off him.

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:27 am

MayorOfLondon wrote:"Caulker was bought from Tottenham for £11m but, if they decide to sell him, Cardiff must pay 50 per cent of any transfer fee over £11m to Tottenham."

So basically we have to sell Caulker for over 22 mil to make any money off him.


Nope.

Try again :thumbright:

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:49 am

NJ73 wrote:
MayorOfLondon wrote:"Caulker was bought from Tottenham for £11m but, if they decide to sell him, Cardiff must pay 50 per cent of any transfer fee over £11m to Tottenham."

So basically we have to sell Caulker for over 22 mil to make any money off him.


Nope.

Try again :thumbright:




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:34 am

Well on the bright side, we won't need to give Derby that extra £500k for Brayford's appearance bonus!

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:43 am

Absolutely shocking and embarrassing if those figures are true. Don't no what to believe anymore when it comes to our club, but if that article is true, then its no wonder tan is livid

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:47 am

Isn't it the Daily Mail who people on here have been proclaiming as knowing all the goings on at the club? Would be a bit rich of them to start disputing the Mail's accuracy now :D

Jokes aside, these stats are shocking. Yes, football is riddled with these add ons, but can't fault Tan for being angry about all this. And the cheap price for Caulker now makes perfect sense, seeing as Spurs know they are gonna get an extra couple million for him down the line.

Methinks some clubs who might have approached Malky will look into this report before phoning his agent.

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:51 am

As a club we should cut ourselves some slack. Tan is new to football and the club is new to the Premiership. We were bound to make mistakes.

As the late great Clyde Shelton said "Lessons not learnt in blood are lessons soon forgotten". Making mistakes is a part of life's imperfection but I'm sure we'll grow as a club from this episode.

Sincere thanks to Malky Mackay for the most awesome two-and-half years. You've given us some truly extraordinary memories to cherish. We'll miss you. Best wishes for the future.

Re: DAILY MAIL EXCLUSIVE!

Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:01 am

going off this game slowly.. i always thought malky was shit, and his style of football..seems like a load of panic buying to me,, and who watched cornelios play previously and thought he was worth 8 million and 45 grand a week. as for tan,, why would he give them a cheque book and all that control. cant believe a billionaire would allow that..weird shit going on here.