Lets say I run a chain of pine shops

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

Get out the pine business as it went out of fashion and move into hardwoods.

But seriously yes you make a good point and that's the probable thinking of VT as he knows little of football.

great and funny post by the way

I would higher clackerjack lawyer. Her name So Soo Mee.

Get out the pine business as it went out of fashion and move into hardwoods.

But seriously yes you make a good point and that's the probable thinking of VT as he knows little of football.

great and funny post by the way

Thanks.
That's certainly my assumption.
People should see through the agenda setting, emotion and bullshit and just understand where the other guy's coming from. It always pays to do this whether you agree or not.

Get out the pine business as it went out of fashion and move into hardwoods.

But seriously yes you make a good point and that's the probable thinking of VT as he knows little of football.

great and funny post by the way

Thanks.
That's certainly my assumption.
People should see through the agenda setting, emotion and bullshit and just understand where the other guy's coming from. It always pays to do this whether you agree or not.

Ah,there you have it but theres not many on here that can grasp that concept.

Who you Whu Fuk - Fuk you u Fuk

Get out the pine business as it went out of fashion and move into hardwoods.

But seriously yes you make a good point and that's the probable thinking of VT as he knows little of football.

great and funny post by the way

Thanks.
That's certainly my assumption.
People should see through the agenda setting, emotion and bullshit and just understand where the other guy's coming from. It always pays to do this whether you agree or not.

Ah,there you have it but theres not many on here that can grasp that concept.

Unfortunately but not surprisingly this does appear to be the case. One can but try!

Who you Whu Fuk - Fuk you u Fuk

How about an answer to the question?

Who you Whu Fuk - Fuk you u Fuk

How about an answer to the question?

What part of Fuk u Whu Fuk do you not understand!!!

To liken a pine shop to a football club is ridiculous. There are certain facets to one business that the other doesnt have - which in turn can give differing outcomes when posed with a business related scenario due to the potential effects from those.

Get out the pine business as it went out of fashion and move into hardwoods.

But seriously yes you make a good point and that's the probable thinking of VT as he knows little of football.

great and funny post by the way

Thanks.
That's certainly my assumption.
People should see through the agenda setting, emotion and bullshit and just understand where the other guy's coming from. It always pays to do this whether you agree or not.

Ah,there you have it but theres not many on here that can grasp that concept.

There's quite a few concepts that need to be grasped, number one is how not to get your name on every tabloid in a negative fashion.

To liken a pine shop to a football club is ridiculous. There are certain facets to one business that the other doesnt have - which in turn can give differing outcomes when posed with a business related scenario due to the potential effects from those.

Read again.Try again.
Nothing to do with football or your football club. A business.

Who you Whu Fuk - Fuk you u Fuk

How about an answer to the question?

What part of Fuk u Whu Fuk do you not understand!!!

Moron

So what were the targets for this year at this stage?

For me, they've been hit spot on.

if the CEO of said "pine" business wanted to be in the top 10 of businesses that have been established there for the last 10 years having invested millions more over the last ten years, I'd say he was delusional.

To liken a pine shop to a football club is ridiculous. There are certain facets to one business that the other doesnt have - which in turn can give differing outcomes when posed with a business related scenario due to the potential effects from those.

Read again.Try again.
Nothing to do with football or your football club. A business.

So you are asking for answers but only want us to come to one conclusion?

This is clearly a question to then cross over to a football related scenario and you expect the answers to be relevant for both - yet there isnt a football related scenario as they are completely different. One decision has a differing affect on one business than it would another due to the extra facets one business is subjected to... Hence there would be different courses of action accordingly.

A bit like saying if you weremthe manager of ASDA and your shelfstacker was performing awfully would you sack him? Yes would be the answer presumably. And then trying to relate that to Torres at Chelsea. The scenarios have differing effects on both companies so naturally the answers will be different.

So what were the targets for this year at this stage?

For me, they've been hit spot on.

if the CEO of said "pine" business wanted to be in the top 10 of businesses that have been established there for the last 10 years having invested millions more over the last ten years, I'd say he was delusional.

Abramovich got rid of Jose because it wasn't pretty enough - good idea or not?

To liken a pine shop to a football club is ridiculous. There are certain facets to one business that the other doesnt have - which in turn can give differing outcomes when posed with a business related scenario due to the potential effects from those.

Read again.Try again.
Nothing to do with football or your football club. A business.

So you are asking for answers but only want us to come to one conclusion?

This is clearly a question to then cross over to a football related scenario and you expect the answers to be relevant for both - yet there isnt a football related scenario as they are completely different. One decision has a differing affect on one business than it would another due to the extra facets one business is subjected to... Hence there would be different courses of action accordingly.

A bit like saying if you weremthe manager of ASDA and your shelfstacker was performing awfully would you sack him? Yes would be the answer presumably. And then trying to relate that to Torres at Chelsea. The scenarios have differing effects on both companies so naturally the answers will be different.

A straight non-football business question. Straight answer is I know not your forte.

Do one Watkins.

So what were the targets for this year at this stage?

For me, they've been hit spot on.

if the CEO of said "pine" business wanted to be in the top 10 of businesses that have been established there for the last 10 years having invested millions more over the last ten years, I'd say he was delusional.

As to CCFC not sure but Tan and Malky will know.
Anyway things change during the period -it's business as you will know if you've ever been at any kind of level.
And it's not your targets it's the owner's i.e. Tan's.
Quite a critical distinction.

Like I say, you have to look at how the other guy sees things as opposed to one's own blinkered view.

Go back to the initial scenario and have another think. It just takes a little time. Not hard.

A straight non-football business question. Straight answer is I know not your forte.

Do one Watkins.

so you are saying this isnt relatable to anything. Its a silly question simple as that.

A straight non-football business question. Straight answer is I know not your forte.

Do one Watkins.

so you are saying this isnt relatable to anything. Its a silly question simple as that.

Watkins, as Ronald Reagan would say, 'there you go again...'

simple scenario . two line answer required.

then, do one.

Quick response please , must get a few hours sleep before early trip.

A straight non-football business question. Straight answer is I know not your forte.

Do one Watkins.

so you are saying this isnt relatable to anything. Its a silly question simple as that.

Watkins, as Ronald Reagan would say, 'there you go again...'

simple scenario . two line answer required.

then, do one.

Quick response please , must get a few hours sleep before early trip.

Huntley, for what reason do you seek answers? so you can tell your pine shop owner friend?

You have told us on this thread you want people to answer to then see what is going on at Cardiff - they aren't relatable. The answers given to your pine scenario DO NOT cross over for the reasons I've highlighted.

Its a silly question. How about taking the obvious criticism of your scenario instead of throwing your toys out of the pram kicking and screaming.

A straight non-football business question. Straight answer is I know not your forte.

Do one Watkins.

so you are saying this isnt relatable to anything. Its a silly question simple as that.

Watkins, as Ronald Reagan would say, 'there you go again...'

simple scenario . two line answer required.

then, do one.

Quick response please , must get a few hours sleep before early trip.

Huntley, for what reason do you seek answers? so you can tell your pine shop owner friend?

You have told us on this thread you want people to answer to then see what is going on at Cardiff - they aren't relatable. The answers given to your pine scenario DO NOT cross over for the reasons I've highlighted.

Its a silly question. How about taking the obvious criticism of your scenario instead of throwing your toys out of the pram kicking and screaming.

Yawn.
Unusually pathetic, even for you.
tic toc.

So you realise they arent relatable now then?

Pg tips is my preference

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

I have read the whole thread and have too say what the fuckin hell are you talking about? You've posted a scenario which you and only you, think you can relate to the situation at Cardiff City football club without actually giving anybody any chance to relate it too Cardiff City football club! Bizarre!

But hey, just too indulge you. could you name the chief buyer and the business people who recognise such a state of affairs is terminal?

Dont point out the obvious, he thought he was being clever. He gets all funny

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

I have read the whole thread and have too say what the fuckin hell are you talking about? You've posted a scenario which you and only you, think you can relate to the situation at Cardiff City football club without actually giving anybody any chance to relate it too Cardiff City football club! Bizarre!

But hey, just too indulge you. could you name the chief buyer and the business people who recognise such a state of affairs is terminal?

Just back from polishing my loafers for trip.

You must be Mrs Watkins.Not capable of looking at a basic scenario and giving an answer.Typical of modern school product/drug addled mind.

Suggest you f**k off and find some remedial classes.
Night night.
Signing off.

what a tard.

:lol: what a tard.

At least he was being constructive I suppose?

So you agree with tan and want malky sacked,i think I've got it right haven't i ?

So you agree with tan and want malky sacked,i think I've got it right haven't i ?

Thats where he wanted everyone to go yes.