Have the tables turned on Malky?

There seem to be less MA's today, and quite a bit of support for what VT has said in his statement.

Yes we shouldnt be airing our dirty washing in public but its fair to say MM is not innocent in all this and has defo been trying to play the game through the media this past week.

We can second guess who signed what in relation to the over spend in the summer but its Malky (with the help of Moody up until recently) who decides who to buy, and pick the the squad / team.

When all is said and done MM has been given a hell of a lot of money by Tan and has wasted a fair portion of it.

Yet we are still in a decent position in the league!

if the rebrand never happened then ALOT of people wouldn't be slagging tan off and praising malky so much, as the saying goes on here "blinded by a fist pump"

That's all Malky has done wrong is ask for more players to strengthen his squad as any manager would. All of a sudden he is being painted in a poor light by our own fans so how fickle some of you are. If I had to choose about who has the most credible integrity of the two then Malky would win hands down.

That's all Malky has done wrong is ask for more players to strengthen his squad as any manager would. All of a sudden he is being painted in a poor light by our own fans so how fickle some of you are. If I had to choose about who has the most credible integrity of the two then Malky would win hands down.

You want Tan out and still want him to give Malky more money.

Its not Tans fault Malky didnt use the huge budget he gave him for this season very wisely.

But the rebrand did happen and everyone got blinded by Tans millions and the lure of premier league football!

Look where it's got us , is there a more divided group of fans in the country ? I doubt it very much.

Who knows what's next , name change probably , but hey! Who cares as long as we are playing premier league football!!

Not fickle at all, people like Polo and Bluebird since 1948 have said many times the positives of MM but he isn't exactly flawless in every department.

There seem to be less MA's today, and quite a bit of support for what VT has said in his statement.

Yes we shouldnt be airing our dirty washing in public but its fair to say MM is not innocent in all this and has defo been trying to play the game through the media this past week.

We can second guess who signed what in relation to the over spend in the summer but its Malky (with the help of Moody up until recently) who decides who to buy, and pick the the squad / team.

When all is said and done MM has been given a hell of a lot of money by Tan and has wasted a fair portion of it.

Malky's been doing it for a while. Remember his agent's statements during the Moody saga!

That's all Malky has done wrong is ask for more players to strengthen his squad as any manager would. All of a sudden he is being painted in a poor light by our own fans so how fickle some of you are. If I had to choose about who has the most credible integrity of the two then Malky would win hands down.

You want Tan out and still want him to give Malky more money.

Its not Tans fault Malky didnt use the huge budget he gave him for this season very wisely.

Polo you post a lot of good/humorous posts but , in this case you are talking shit. We dont even know if Tan picked any of the purchases, personally I would almost guarantee that. Sir Alex didnt always get it right either.

That's all Malky has done wrong is ask for more players to strengthen his squad as any manager would. All of a sudden he is being painted in a poor light by our own fans so how fickle some of you are. If I had to choose about who has the most credible integrity of the two then Malky would win hands down.

You want Tan out and still want him to give Malky more money.

Its not Tans fault Malky didnt use the huge budget he gave him for this season very wisely.

Polo you post a lot of good/humorous posts but , in this case you are talking shit. We dont even know if Tan picked any of the purchases, personally I would almost guarantee that. Sir Alex didnt always get it right either.

There seem to be less MA's today, and quite a bit of support for what VT has said in his statement.

Yes we shouldnt be airing our dirty washing in public but its fair to say MM is not innocent in all this and has defo been trying to play the game through the media this past week.

We can second guess who signed what in relation to the over spend in the summer but its Malky (with the help of Moody up until recently) who decides who to buy, and pick the the squad / team.

When all is said and done MM has been given a hell of a lot of money by Tan and has wasted a fair portion of it.

I think any reasonable fan would agree that Malky has already had enough funds. Everyone wants to spend in January (although Malky doesnt usually like to).

I do think its all a game, sad really.

That's all Malky has done wrong is ask for more players to strengthen his squad as any manager would. All of a sudden he is being painted in a poor light by our own fans so how fickle some of you are. If I had to choose about who has the most credible integrity of the two then Malky would win hands down.

You want Tan out and still want him to give Malky more money.

Its not Tans fault Malky didnt use the huge budget he gave him for this season very wisely.

Polo you post a lot of good/humorous posts but , in this case you are talking shit. We dont even know if Tan picked any of the purchases, personally I would almost guarantee that. Sir Alex didnt always get it right either.

Oh the irony.

You tell me I am talking shit then you come out with a corker like you can guarantee Tan has signed some of the players

Dont tell me, the ones Tan signed are the shit ones

As far for SAF he got a hell of a lot more right than he got wrong.

Ive just finished readinghis book he got 5 or 6 wrong in 25+ years.

Malkys got 6+ wrong in 2.5 years.

Please stop comparing Malky with SAF. They are both Scottish. Thats where the comparisons should end.

As far for SAF he got a hell of a lot more right than he got wrong.

Ive just finished readinghis book he got 5 or 6 wrong in 25+ years.

Malkys got 6+ wrong in 2.5 years.

Please stop comparing Malky with SAF. They are both Scottish. Thats where the comparisons should end.

Can you name the six we got wrong?

As far for SAF he got a hell of a lot more right than he got wrong.

Ive just finished readinghis book he got 5 or 6 wrong in 25+ years.

Malkys got 6+ wrong in 2.5 years.

Please stop comparing Malky with SAF. They are both Scottish. Thats where the comparisons should end.

I am obviously incorrect then.

As far for SAF he got a hell of a lot more right than he got wrong.

Ive just finished readinghis book he got 5 or 6 wrong in 25+ years.

Malkys got 6+ wrong in 2.5 years.

Please stop comparing Malky with SAF. They are both Scottish. Thats where the comparisons should end.

Can you name the six we got wrong?

Gladly

Earnshaw
Velonijka
Cornelius
Brayford
Kiss (Permanent)
Lappin (Permanent)
Mcnaughton (new contract)
Kenny Miller
Rudy

Putting Tommy Smith in the 25 man squad instead of Craig Conway also a diabloical decision. Stinks of "jobs for the boys".


Thats off the top of my head.

As far for SAF he got a hell of a lot more right than he got wrong.

Ive just finished readinghis book he got 5 or 6 wrong in 25+ years.

Malkys got 6+ wrong in 2.5 years.

Please stop comparing Malky with SAF. They are both Scottish. Thats where the comparisons should end.

Can you name the six we got wrong?

Gladly

Earnshaw
Velonijka
Cornelius
Brayford
Kiss (Permanent)
Lappin (Permanent)
Mcnaughton (new contract)
Kenny Miller
Rudy

Putting Tommy Smith in the 25 man squad instead of Craig Conway also a diabloical decision. Stinks of "jobs for the boys".


Thats off the top of my head.

Cornelius? Ah yes because he is young and has great potential and could be worth double the money.
Rudy? Did we pay a lot for him? No, he was a good option when needed and made some vital contributions to our promotion to the premier league.
Lappin? That was common sense at the time as we had no experienced cover for Taylor.

The ones I agree with are Velikonja and Brayford. Brayford is a good player but there could be something we don't know about why he hasn't got his chance.

Cornelius - Not ready. By Malkys own admission. I am sorry but as a newly promoted club I find it difficult to understand why you would blow 8 million on a player who is not ready. Hull didnt have that to spend in total.
I couldnt care what he does in 2015 or 2016 we need him now.
A huge mistake, especially when we are so short of goals from our strikers.

Lappin - Why sign him on a permanent as cover for Taylor, then when Taylor is out first game of the season, play a young kid left back instead?. Total waste.

Rudy - I think hes shit. Worse footballer weve had for many a year IMO. But thats the beauty of football its all about opinions.

Cornelius - Not ready. By Malkys own admission. I am sorry but as a newly promoted club I find it difficult to understand why you would blow 8 million on a player who is not ready. Hull didnt have that to spend in total.
I couldnt care what he does in 2015 or 2016 we need him now.
A huge mistake, especially when we are so short of goals from our strikers.

Lappin - Why sign him on a permanent as cover for Taylor, then when Taylor is out first game of the season, play a young kid left back instead?. Total waste.

Rudy - I think hes shit. Worse footballer weve had for many a year IMO. But thats the beauty of football its all about opinions.

Polo, you and I are often in agreement on many things but I just can't agree with you on this. Yes, Malky isn't perfect and has made mistakes but nowhere near enough to unleash the wolves onto his back. I fully appreciate the rights and wrongs that all parties have made but Malky is definitely getting a lot of unfair slack over this transfer issue.

I can't help but think some people (not all and not even the majority) are using any excuse to slate Malky so they can back Tan and justify their continued acceptance of the rebrand.

Anyway, that's another chat. Regarding the signings...

Earnshaw - we were very short on decent attacking options. It wasn't the best move in my mind at the time but the majority did support it.
Velikonja - I've never really rated him. The goals in the development team argument is rubbish because he did awful when he played at a semi-decent level. Looked out of his depth physically against Macclesfield in the FA Cup ffs! Even the likes of Declan John and Joe Ralls who were only inexperienced teenagers out shone him in that game. Agree on that waste of money.
Cornelius - he's suffered a potentially long-term career-hampering injury early in his spell here. If we start him too soon then it could end up turning him into the next Dean Ashton. He needs time to re-adapt to the pace and power of this level. Give him time. He's young and very highly rated by a lot of people. Worth taking our time over.
Brayford - I don't know one person who thought this was a bad signing when we made it. Something has obviously happened but Malky can't be slated for making this signing when the vast majority agreed it was a decent one.
Kiss (Permanent) - at the time, for the money we paid, I think it was a risk worth taking. I see your argument about the central midfielders we had but at the time Malky never saw Cowie as a central midfielder (even though that's what he is) and Kiss was young and had done ok when he played.
Lappin (Permanent) - as a previous poster said, we needed urgent experienced cover on the cheap for Taylor. Job done.
Mcnaughton (new contract) - he deserved the new contract. At the time we didn't know if we'd get a new right back or not. McNaughton has been shifted out on loan. What's the big deal?
Kenny Miller - split opinion but worked tirelessly and won us a number of vital points in our playoff season. Flagged at the end but contributed to the cause and was shifted on when he'd passed his sell by date.
Rudy - I've never been Rudy's biggest fan but even I can't deny that he won us some decent points that helped us get promoted last year. Cost f**k all and I doubt we've made much loss on him when the time comes that he goes. Could even make a profit.

Well done Zabier you have just taken the crown of King Malky Apologist from Annis.

Well done Zabier you have just taken the crown of King Malky Apologist from Annis.

Look, my endless man love for Malky has no influence on my argument!...

Now let me get back to touching myself over our fine Scottish manager!

Mate, the beauty of football, its all about opinions.

Its just a shame it spills over into threats on here and social media because people have a difference of opinion.

Yeah, exactly. Far too often people either don't have the intelligence or humility to avoid using threats and insults. On a slight twist of topic, Polo, if Malky was to go then who would you like to see come in?

As far for SAF he got a hell of a lot more right than he got wrong.

Ive just finished readinghis book he got 5 or 6 wrong in 25+ years.

Malkys got 6+ wrong in 2.5 years.

Please stop comparing Malky with SAF. They are both Scottish. Thats where the comparisons should end.

Can you name the six we got wrong?

Gladly

Earnshaw
Velonijka
Cornelius
Brayford
Kiss (Permanent)
Lappin (Permanent)
Mcnaughton (new contract)
Kenny Miller
Rudy

Putting Tommy Smith in the 25 man squad instead of Craig Conway also a diabloical decision. Stinks of "jobs for the boys".


Thats off the top of my head.

Don't agree with much that MP writes on this forum, but think that he has a valid point here. While I support Malky, I think that it would be difficult to argue against some of the points that have been made here. I couldn't make much of an argument in support of any of the above signings, and while Cornelius may be one for the future, I would have thought with our goal scoring record we need one right now. PS Don't know if I've missed it, but haven't noticed Mario's season ticket up for sale today.

Cornelius - Not ready. By Malkys own admission. I am sorry but as a newly promoted club I find it difficult to understand why you would blow 8 million on a player who is not ready. Hull didnt have that to spend in total.
I couldnt care what he does in 2015 or 2016 we need him now.
A huge mistake, especially when we are so short of goals from our strikers.

Lappin - Why sign him on a permanent as cover for Taylor, then when Taylor is out first game of the season, play a young kid left back instead?. Total waste.

Rudy - I think hes shit. Worse footballer weve had for many a year IMO. But thats the beauty of football its all about opinions.

Polo, you and I are often in agreement on many things but I just can't agree with you on this. Yes, Malky isn't perfect and has made mistakes but nowhere near enough to unleash the wolves onto his back. I fully appreciate the rights and wrongs that all parties have made but Malky is definitely getting a lot of unfair slack over this transfer issue.

I can't help but think some people (not all and not even the majority) are using any excuse to slate Malky so they can back Tan and justify their continued acceptance of the rebrand.

Anyway, that's another chat. Regarding the signings...

Earnshaw - we were very short on decent attacking options. It wasn't the best move in my mind at the time but the majority did support it.
Velikonja - I've never really rated him. The goals in the development team argument is rubbish because he did awful when he played at a semi-decent level. Looked out of his depth physically against Macclesfield in the FA Cup ffs! Even the likes of Declan John and Joe Ralls who were only inexperienced teenagers out shone him in that game. Agree on that waste of money.
Cornelius - he's suffered a potentially long-term career-hampering injury early in his spell here. If we start him too soon then it could end up turning him into the next Dean Ashton. He needs time to re-adapt to the pace and power of this level. Give him time. He's young and very highly rated by a lot of people. Worth taking our time over.
Brayford - I don't know one person who thought this was a bad signing when we made it. Something has obviously happened but Malky can't be slated for making this signing when the vast majority agreed it was a decent one.
Kiss (Permanent) - at the time, for the money we paid, I think it was a risk worth taking. I see your argument about the central midfielders we had but at the time Malky never saw Cowie as a central midfielder (even though that's what he is) and Kiss was young and had done ok when he played.
Lappin (Permanent) - as a previous poster said, we needed urgent experienced cover on the cheap for Taylor. Job done.
Mcnaughton (new contract) - he deserved the new contract. At the time we didn't know if we'd get a new right back or not. McNaughton has been shifted out on loan. What's the big deal?
Kenny Miller - split opinion but worked tirelessly and won us a number of vital points in our playoff season. Flagged at the end but contributed to the cause and was shifted on when he'd passed his sell by date.
Rudy - I've never been Rudy's biggest fan but even I can't deny that he won us some decent points that helped us get promoted last year. Cost f**k all and I doubt we've made much loss on him when the time comes that he goes. Could even make a profit.

Agree, but funny thing is nobody will want to look at the other signings like Caulker, Medel, TC, Taylor, Connolly, Noone, Kim, Mutch, Mason, Harris(as it seems right now), Campbell, Conway, Bellamy, Gunnarson and even Cowie was a good signing. Not to mention how he has set up the way we go about young players, so many in the development squad with big futures.

The DVP has nothing to do with Malky he cant take credit for that.

50/50 on transfers isnt great should be at least 75 good / 25 bad.

Zabier, I would like the Borussia Monchengladbach manager if we could get him.

The DVP has nothing to do with Malky he cant take credit for that.

50/50 on transfers isnt great should be at least 75 good / 25 bad.

Zabier, I would like the Borussia Monchengladbach manager if we could get him.

agree about 75/25 (ish) someone like kiss is a signing i can forgive. Velikonja, and the way he handled him, not so much.

Same can be said about the way hes handled conway too.

Fact is that if you look at all his signings, they get worse the further up the field you go!

Velikonja & Earnshaw are the Malaysian signings

Velikonja & Earnshaw are the Malaysian signings

i can believe earnie.... and thats not really a bad one (at the time) either, as it was popular among fans.


But velikonja? hasnt malky said he was watching him while at Watford?

Velikonja & Earnshaw are the Malaysian signings

i can believe earnie.... and thats not really a bad one (at the time) either, as it was popular among fans.


But velikonja? hasnt malky said he was watching him while at Watford?

I agree, the Malaysians were def trying to win the fans over with Earnie, they pushed him on Malky, already agreed before Malky became our manager.

As to Velikonja, Always been told Malky did not want him.