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Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:49 pm

Malky says he is not ready for the prem ! So why the fk did we buy him ? why the hell didn't we buy a striker we can use and lets face it , we really need ?

Sunday 15th December 2013.

Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay says club record signing Andreas Cornelius still isn't ready for the Premier League.

The 20-year-old arrived in the summer from FC Copenhagen with a big reputation and a big price tag at £8million.

However, the young Dane - who suffered injury during pre-season - is yet to start a match for the club in the league and has been limited to just substitute appearances.

Despite his struggles, Mackay is happy to bide his time with Cornelius.

"He is here for the long-term. It's about him developing his awareness with the first-team," he told the Sunday Mirror.

"He was unlucky to suffer an injury but he was never going to be ready to hit the ground running.

"We paid a club record but £8million is not a lot for a striker in the Premier League.

"A striker who is ready to hit the ground running, like Roberto Soldado, would cost more than £20million

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:51 pm

Because Malky is a good manager and is interested in the club as a whole and building a sustainable future rather than grasp at whatever's hot even if it doesn't last long, you know ke Dave Jones.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:06 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:Malky says he is not ready for the prem ! So why the fk did we buy him ? why the hell didn't we buy a striker we can use and lets face it , we really need ?


Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay says club record signing Andreas Cornelius still isn't ready for the Premier League.

The 20-year-old arrived in the summer from FC Copenhagen with a big reputation and a big price tag at £8million.

However, the young Dane - who suffered injury during pre-season - is yet to start a match for the club in the league and has been limited to just substitute appearances.

Despite his struggles, Mackay is happy to bide his time with Cornelius.

"He is here for the long-term. It's about him developing his awareness with the first-team," he told the Sunday Mirror.

"He was unlucky to suffer an injury but he was never going to be ready to hit the ground running.

"We paid a club record but £8million is not a lot for a striker in the Premier League.

"A striker who is ready to hit the ground running, like Roberto Soldado, would cost more than £20million




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If he is, a way off being ready, then I think that this signing was a big gamble and risk for a club in our position. I have no problem with the ambition of Malky and the club for backing him, but in hindsight it was probably a poor decision at this stage. The money would have been better invested on a proven Premiership loanee or risked it on someone like Jordan Rhodes, I think that even Ross McCormack would get close to double figures in this league.
Velonkya (sic) has turned out to be a turkey, I hope to God, for Malkys sake, Cornelius doesn't go the same way, or it may be a big factor in him losing his job :o

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:06 pm

RFMH wrote:Because Malky is a good manager and is interested in the club as a whole and building a sustainable future rather than grasp at whatever's hot even if it doesn't last long, you know ke Dave Jones.



The future in football is the next game ,yes you can plan for the future but our future may depend on our next 3 or 4 games.
it only takes a goal difference to stay up or go down at the end of the season.

I think Malky is great ,but sometime things like this (He is here for the long-term. It's about him developing his awareness with the first-team," he told the Sunday Mirror.) Makes me think. I mean how will he build his awareness with the first team unless he is given time to play with them ? Coming on for the last 5 or 10mins is not going to give him any kind of a chance to build up his awareness. But there again he is not ready for the prem !! Malkys own words. Bit of a catch 22 really with 8 million floating around.

I Believe Malky is the man that will keep us up ,but i do have to scratch my head and wounder some times.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:06 pm

The newcastle fa cup tie i think will be his big chance to prove he's ready. Surely malky will start him in that game

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:19 pm

Wow!

Isn't £8million a lot of money for Cardiff City though??
Don't understand this???

Have we uncovered the REAL reason Iain Moody is no longer at the club?

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:38 pm

We had to wait to see Kimbo too, chill lads, Malky will unleash him when he is good and ready.

Hopefully not to much longer to wait

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:40 pm

GGardner wrote:Wow!

Isn't £8million a lot of money for Cardiff City though??
Don't understand this???

Have we uncovered the REAL reason Iain Moody is no longer at the club?



Well to be honest I wouldn't be very happy if someone spent 8mil of my money and said we cant use him in the prem.and lets face it, this is where we do need a striker of quality.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:42 pm

What a crazy thing to say.

8m is a lot for any player who isn't ready especially when it's a massive part of your budget upon promotion.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:56 pm

when you are a new promoted team you sign players that you need right now!, yes you got to plan for future aswell but Cornelius is highly rated we get relegated and don't come straight back him up he will want to leave

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:31 pm

and people wonder why tan got rid of moody ,lets face it we could of got a few players with the money we spent on him ,its a joke :cry:

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:33 pm

I wonder if he would have signed for us, had he known Malky would manage him the way he has? Seems to me the guy was doing great before he came to us, certainly good enough to start for a club that were in the second tier 8 months ago.

I'm also not sure I trust this sort of opinion from a man who believes Don Cowie is Premiership quality. Same man who didn't play Noone for over 10 games, the same Noone who has torn up defences since being brought into the team.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:57 pm

GGardner wrote:Wow!

Isn't £8million a lot of money for Cardiff City though??
Don't understand this???

Have we uncovered the REAL reason Iain Moody is no longer at the club?


Nail on the head comes to mind.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:14 pm

If Cornelius wasn't ready we should never have bought him,I'm not saying he won't prove his worth in the future but 8mill is a big chunk of our budget on a gamble.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:17 pm

JAWS wrote:If Cornelius wasn't ready we should never have bought him,I'm not saying he won't prove his worth in the future but 8mill is a big chunk of our budget on a gamble.

totally agree with you :thumbup: 8 million could of got us a top top striker on loan

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:19 pm

KWest wrote:I wonder if he would have signed for us, had he known Malky would manage him the way he has? Seems to me the guy was doing great before he came to us, certainly good enough to start for a club that were in the second tier 8 months ago.

I'm also not sure I trust this sort of opinion from a man who believes Don Cowie is Premiership quality. Same man who didn't play Noone for over 10 games, the same Noone who has torn up defences since being brought into the team.



Well he is not getting game time with us ,so that means hes not getting to get the feeling for the way in which we play over here. So surely he would be better to loan him out to a championship club for a few months. Ok its not the same as the prem,but at least he will be getting game time and a insight into the way football is played here .

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:39 pm

Give the boy a break for f**k sake. He suffered a nasty injury, probably the first of his professional career. After the recuperation he'll need 4 or 5 first team games under his belt, but if his confidence has taken a big knock and Malky doesn't think he's quite ready then it's a catch 22. We bought him before the injury, not after!!

Why do so many of our fans assume everything is black and white. :roll:

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:46 pm

CityGent wrote:Give the boy a break for f**k sake. He suffered a nasty injury, probably the first of his professional career. After the recuperation he'll need 4 or 5 first team games under his belt, but if his confidence has taken a big knock and Malky doesn't think he's quite ready then it's a catch 22. We bought him before the injury, not after!!

Why do so many of our fans assume everything is black and white. :roll:


Spot on. What Malkay is saying is that he needed time to settle in. He missed months through injury.
He is already on the bench so its just a matter of time before he is ready to step up.

Saw him at Forest Green and you could see he has massive raw potenial. He'll come good and the backstabbing whingers will have to find another topic. :wave:

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:46 pm

I am a malky fan but paying that and a record fee for a player we need in that position is a .mistake
We aint man city or chelsea are we.we dont score many goals we are crying out for target man and are record signing who plays that position aint ready.utter bollocks in my eyes.

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:50 pm

I am a malky fan but paying that and a record fee for a player we need in that position is a .mistake
We aint man city or chelsea are we.we dont score many goals we are crying out for target man and are record signing who plays that position aint ready.utter bollocks in my eyes.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:24 pm

Gavin wrote:We had to wait to see Kimbo too, chill lads, Malky will unleash him when he is good and ready.

Hopefully not to much longer to wait


Exactly. Held back Mutch too after an initial few games.

One of Malky's strengths is knowing when not to throw players into the limelight.

Re: Mackay: Cornelius Not Ready

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:39 pm

RFMH wrote:Because Malky is a good manager and is interested in the club as a whole and building a sustainable future rather than grasp at whatever's hot even if it doesn't last long, you know ke Dave Jones.

how many 5 year plans have we had?
this is rubbish, and you know it is, its a very expensive mistake

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:46 pm

How is it an expensive mistake? he's been injured and is biding his time to get a starting spot. How many premier league clubs have made investments for the future? We're not the first club to do it and won't be the last. It baffles me what planet some of our fans are on at times.

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:53 pm

He was certainly a gamble .. It's a big jump in all due respect from the Danish top league to the Premier.

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:57 pm

How much money has been spent on players "not ready" for our first team?

Velikonja
Brayford
Cornelious

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:58 pm

I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million it's no wonder Tan fucked Iain Moody off.

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:01 pm

CityGent wrote:Give the boy a break for f**k sake. He suffered a nasty injury, probably the first of his professional career. After the recuperation he'll need 4 or 5 first team games under his belt, but if his confidence has taken a big knock and Malky doesn't think he's quite ready then it's a catch 22. We bought him before the injury, not after!!

Why do so many of our fans assume everything is black and white. :roll:

its not the boy anyone is having a go at.................do you think he is good enough?..or worth 8million..
myself.......i think Malky is spot on in making a team very difficult to beat,the way the team doubles,trebles up without the ball, how each player covers another is very clever..but..going foward.....he hasnt got a scoobee doo.. he doesnt seem to appreciate how to get the best out of the strikers he buys, this going back to Miller......he seems torn as how to play whits and kimbo, whether we should use wingers.....i honestly believe he knows himself that this is achilles heel, hence the over negative tactics trying to pinch games from set pieces..maybe we need an offensive coach?
yesterday,ALL those crosses were crying out for a target man...as does the scud attack from turner.so we have campbell and odemwingie??????.. as once it was Miller...i think acorn was bought for now, and that 8million is the cause of most of the behind the scenes unrest............id be peed off it was my money...and i think so would you

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:17 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million it's no wonder Tan fucked Iain Moody off.


I really don't understand your hatred with Malky. Cornelius may well prove to be worth every penny of the 8 million in time. Malky's signings have taken us up to the Premiership and he's signed several players who are now at least triple the amount we initially paid for them. The only poor signing Malky has made is Velikonja. You can't really say Brayford is a poor signing because he has Theo ahead of him and all of Malky's other signings have contributed to get us to where we are now.

Malky initially took us over with only 10 players, he has built his own squad, taken us to a cup final and playoffs in his first season and we won the Championship in Malky's second season. We are currently 15th with a string of winnable home games approaching. We have already played Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton at home. With our other 3 home games against teams outside of last seasons top 6, we have won 2 of them. I don't know what else Malky has to do and your comment of "I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million" is baffling.

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:32 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million it's no wonder Tan fucked Iain Moody off.


I really don't understand your hatred with Malky. Cornelius may well prove to be worth every penny of the 8 million in time. Malky's signings have taken us up to the Premiership and he's signed several players who are now at least triple the amount we initially paid for them. The only poor signing Malky has made is Velikonja. You can't really say Brayford is a poor signing because he has Theo ahead of him and all of Malky's other signings have contributed to get us to where we are now.

Malky initially took us over with only 10 players, he has built his own squad, taken us to a cup final and playoffs in his first season and we won the Championship in Malky's second season. We are currently 15th with a string of winnable home games approaching. We have already played Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton at home. With our other 3 home games against teams outside of last seasons top 6, we have won 2 of them. I don't know what else Malky has to do and your comment of "I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million" is baffling.


:thumbup:

Re: Malky Mackay: " Andreas Cornelius Not Ready "

Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:36 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million it's no wonder Tan fucked Iain Moody off.


I really don't understand your hatred with Malky. Cornelius may well prove to be worth every penny of the 8 million in time. Malky's signings have taken us up to the Premiership and he's signed several players who are now at least triple the amount we initially paid for them. The only poor signing Malky has made is Velikonja. You can't really say Brayford is a poor signing because he has Theo ahead of him and all of Malky's other signings have contributed to get us to where we are now.

Malky initially took us over with only 10 players, he has built his own squad, taken us to a cup final and playoffs in his first season and we won the Championship in Malky's second season. We are currently 15th with a string of winnable home games approaching. We have already played Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton at home. With our other 3 home games against teams outside of last seasons top 6, we have won 2 of them. I don't know what else Malky has to do and your comment of "I wouldn't trust Malkys with 8 quid let alone 8 million" is baffling.


Agree in parts, think generally Malky has done well in the transfer market.
Cornelius though is a very odd one imo
and I think you have to say Brayford is an awful signing when he is behind Theo and Connally who was already here.