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Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:17 pm

Caulker, Hudson and Turner..? and go 3-5-2

Just an idea..?

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:21 pm

the wingers in this league are brilliant and very very fast! 3 at the back would only work if we had 2 wingers who would act as wing backs, and at the moment we don't have any wingers other than bellamy and noone, who aren't the best at defending!

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:26 pm

I think we are in a dilemma that we can't afford to drop one out of the midfield but at the same time need a stronger attack so the only area we can afford to sacrifice is at the back

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:31 pm

"WE" ffs :laughing5:

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:34 pm

I was thinking this the other week , I agree with the wingers comment but something like a 3-4-3 could work with our squad and give us that extra bit of attacking threat . I wouldn't go with Hudson though I'd rather see medel in the centre sweeping like he plays for chili .
Would be interesting to try in a cup game :ayatollah:
Cowie and gunnarsson have the legs to play the wide roles and protect the wide areas leaving mutch and whitts to feed the front 3 .

------------------- Marshall-----------------

--------caulker---medel----turner--------

Cowie--mutch--whittingham--gunnarsson

------odemwingie---------Campbell--------
-------------------cornelius-------------------

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:34 pm

Perhaps we could play Medel at centre half which would free up a midfield place for a more creative player.

I think Turner has done very well this season to be honest but if Medel was centre half it would have to be with Caulker. Medel plays centre half for his country who have qualified for the world cup, few teams in the Premier League play with more than one "big man" upfront, and it would certainly improve our distribution from the back.

Just a thought.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:37 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:"WE" ffs :laughing5:


Why do you constantly mock people's posts? You must be very insecure, small cock syndrom maybe? :lol:

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:38 pm

thomasblue wrote:I was thinking this the other week , I agree with the wingers comment but something like a 3-4-3 could work with our squad and give us that extra bit of attacking threat . I wouldn't go with Hudson though I'd rather see medel in the centre sweeping like he plays for chili .
Would be interesting to try in a cup game :ayatollah:
Cowie and gunnarsson have the legs to play the wide roles and protect the wide areas leaving mutch and whitts to feed the front 3 .

------------------- Marshall-----------------

--------caulker---medel----turner--------

Cowie--mutch--whittingham--gunnarsson

------odemwingie---------Campbell--------
-------------------cornelius-------------------


I think we would get obliterated with that formation tbh. Wing backs might work but surely Theophile-Catherine would be perfect for that role on the right. A lot of teams play one striker so we would be faced with 3 vs 1 at the back.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:47 pm

maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I was thinking this the other week , I agree with the wingers comment but something like a 3-4-3 could work with our squad and give us that extra bit of attacking threat . I wouldn't go with Hudson though I'd rather see medel in the centre sweeping like he plays for chili .
Would be interesting to try in a cup game :ayatollah:
Cowie and gunnarsson have the legs to play the wide roles and protect the wide areas leaving mutch and whitts to feed the front 3 .

------------------- Marshall-----------------

--------caulker---medel----turner--------

Cowie--mutch--whittingham--gunnarsson

------odemwingie---------Campbell--------
-------------------cornelius-------------------


I think we would get obliterated with that formation tbh. Wing backs might work but surely Theophile-Catherine would be perfect for that role on the right. A lot of teams play one striker so we would be faced with 3 vs 1 at the back.


Shit I forgot about ktc , it wouldn't happen anyway . Football is strange though who would have thought a team playing with no strikers but 5 midfielders(Spain) could win a major tournament ?

Sometimes new/strange formations work because teams are not used to dealing with it .

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:49 pm

CalShepCCFC wrote:the wingers in this league are brilliant and very very fast! 3 at the back would only work if we had 2 wingers who would act as wing backs, and at the moment we don't have any wingers other than bellamy and noone, who aren't the best at defending!


Agree with this. Wing backs are a rarity at this level. Kyle Walker had an outstanding 90 mins when we played Spurs here. He defended when needed and was available to attack and overlap at will. KTC has the potential and did it very well against Swansea, but to sustain it you need to be have the fitness levels and talent of Gareth Bale!

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:51 pm

Hull played with 3 centre backs today against Liverpool and KTC could do the role and the right but the left..?

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:56 pm

Military Junta wrote:Hull played with 3 centre backs today against Liverpool and KTC could do the role and the right but the left..?


He did it against the jacks and was out on his feet with 20 minutes to go

Definitely an option though. Wednesday is crucial. We need to line up as we did against United. 3 in midfield with Cowie on the right and Odemwingie in the hole linking with Campbell. Stoke there for the taking

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:58 pm

CityGent wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Hull played with 3 centre backs today against Liverpool and KTC could do the role and the right but the left..?


He did it against the jacks and was out on his feet with 20 minutes to go

Definitely an option though. Wednesday is crucial. We need to line up as we did against United. 3 in midfield with Cowie on the right and Odemwingie in the hole linking with Campbell. Stoke there for the taking


With Huth out they are weak at the back and Everton proved that yesterday so if that in mind they are there for the taking.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:03 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CityGent wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Hull played with 3 centre backs today against Liverpool and KTC could do the role and the right but the left..?


He did it against the jacks and was out on his feet with 20 minutes to go

Definitely an option though. Wednesday is crucial. We need to line up as we did against United. 3 in midfield with Cowie on the right and Odemwingie in the hole linking with Campbell. Stoke there for the taking


With Huth out they are weak at the back and Everton proved that yesterday so if that in mind they are there for the taking.


Everton could have got ten yesterday. I fancy us there

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:09 pm

CityGent wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CityGent wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Hull played with 3 centre backs today against Liverpool and KTC could do the role and the right but the left..?


He did it against the jacks and was out on his feet with 20 minutes to go

Definitely an option though. Wednesday is crucial. We need to line up as we did against United. 3 in midfield with Cowie on the right and Odemwingie in the hole linking with Campbell. Stoke there for the taking


With Huth out they are weak at the back and Everton proved that yesterday so if that in mind they are there for the taking.


Everton could have got ten yesterday. I fancy us there


Just hope we dont play for a point thats all

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:09 pm

We have not got wing back type players...........we could play Medal as a center back/sweeper because i dont see the need for two big center halfs.

------------------- Marshall-----------------

--catherine---medel----caulker--taylor------

----kimbo--mutch--whittingham---noone
---------------Campbell-------------------------
-------------------cornelius-------------------

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:41 pm

----------------Marshall----------------
Theophile--- Caulker----Turner--- Taylor
----------------Medel ------------------
Kim-Bo ------Mutch------Noone
---Campbell-------Cornelius
4-1-3-2

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:56 pm

Its not the worst idea , ktc is perfect for the role and with medel practically playing a cb role it wouldnt effect his play, he can push up a few yards v sides with one up top anyway.

Would need another player of medels ilk as gunnersson wouldnt cut it, and a left back/winger who could play the role.

I dont expect to see it happen but certainly not one of brownies worst posts :lol:

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:05 pm

If we played 3-5-2 then our wing backs could be no-one other than KTC and Taylor otherwise we would be exposed badly at the back.

It's a nice idea though, my team would be:-

Marshall

Caulker, Hudson, Turner

KTC, Taylor
Mutch, Whitts, Medel

Frazier, Cornelius

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:37 pm

mjw6150 wrote:If we played 3-5-2 then our wing backs could be no-one other than KTC and Taylor otherwise we would be exposed badly at the back.

It's a nice idea though, my team would be:-

Marshall

Caulker, Hudson, Turner

KTC, Taylor
Mutch, Whitts, Medel

Frazier, Cornelius


For me Taylor would be the weak link there as he has no pace and offers little in the way of attacking options other than the odd decent cross - he always turns in and his pass is invariably backwards or sideways and puts the receiver under pressure as it has taken an age to get to him. This is one of the main reasons Turner has to hoof so much.

I would look at Bellamy as the short term option if we were to try this as his tracking back is excellent and he still has enough pace to get forward. Long term though, we would need someone else - maybe Declan John at some point? Inexperienced but has looked the part.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:16 pm

mjw6150 wrote:If we played 3-5-2 then our wing backs could be no-one other than KTC and Taylor otherwise we would be exposed badly at the back.

It's a nice idea though, my team would be:-

Marshall

Caulker, Hudson, Turner

KTC, Taylor
Mutch, Whitts, Medel

Frazier, Cornelius


Same I quite like this. Think we would be more attacking...especially with counter attacks! "COMBINATION" as malky shouts (anyone notice he's been shouting this a lot each time we touch the ball)

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:44 am

Bluebird For Life wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:If we played 3-5-2 then our wing backs could be no-one other than KTC and Taylor otherwise we would be exposed badly at the back.

It's a nice idea though, my team would be:-

Marshall

Caulker, Hudson, Turner

KTC, Taylor
Mutch, Whitts, Medel

Frazier, Cornelius


For me Taylor would be the weak link there as he has no pace and offers little in the way of attacking options other than the odd decent cross - he always turns in and his pass is invariably backwards or sideways and puts the receiver under pressure as it has taken an age to get to him. This is one of the main reasons Turner has to hoof so much.

I would look at Bellamy as the short term option if we were to try this as his tracking back is excellent and he still has enough pace to get forward. Long term though, we would need someone else - maybe Declan John at some point? Inexperienced but has looked the part.


Declan John could definitely play that role at some point, both Bellamy & Cowie probably have the work rate to pull it off.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:00 am

IMO we dont have the ball playing centre halfs that you would need to play 3-5-2.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:02 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:IMO we dont have the ball playing centre halfs that you would need to play 3-5-2.


would you think Medel alongside Caulker would help that?

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:08 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:IMO we dont have the ball playing centre halfs that you would need to play 3-5-2.


would you think Medel alongside Caulker would help that?


Not really for all their excellent defensive qualities Caulker is not great with the ball at is feet and Turner is woeful.

If the oppo press and close down Medel then neither Caulker or Turner are great at bringing the ball out and the whole point of playing 3-5-2 is to play through midfield and get the wing backs flying forward.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:11 am

I noticed at one point during the Arsenal game Medel had dropped back between the two centre backs with the full backs pushed further up maybe at times depending on the play we do play 3-5-2 sort of?

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:21 am

I've never been a fan of three at the back personally. I don't think Hudson, Turner, Caulker have enough mobility to do it. We would need someone with a bit more pace and better on the ball.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:23 am

As said above, Declan John would be an option. I've spoke to a couple of people who have watched him develop and they say he's as strong going forward as he is a defender, if not stronger

City tying him down to a long term deal shows how much faith they have for him

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:26 am

CityGent wrote:As said above, Declan John would be an option. I've spoke to a couple of people who have watched him develop and they say he's as strong going forward as he is a defender, if not stronger

City tying him down to a long term deal shows how much faith they have for him


He has only in the last year or 2 converted from left winger to full back mate so definitley has the qualities going forward.

Re: Could we play with 3 centre backs..?

Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:41 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
CityGent wrote:As said above, Declan John would be an option. I've spoke to a couple of people who have watched him develop and they say he's as strong going forward as he is a defender, if not stronger

City tying him down to a long term deal shows how much faith they have for him


He has only in the last year or 2 converted from left winger to full back mate so definitley has the qualities going forward.


Good news about the extension mate, but as you know the more successful we become the less chance for quality homegrown like Declan and Tommy. It must be harder now to detect the next Aaron Ramsey as first team chances will always be limited