My Thoughts on BU March

As someone who is keen to see Cardiff City return to blue, I've been supporting BU in their quest of doing so & today went along to the march held before the game.

I marched today. I have disagreed with a few things that BU have done, but looked beyond that and went along as I want blue back & wanted to do something to air that view. Many are looking for the "perfect protest", which is simply impossible - as everyone has different views.

Sadly, today's march has given me a different view of BU & it is not in favour of BU.

I arrived at the castle with a friend and we were greeted warmly by some other fans. I asked some questions to other fans about Tan & I was given the distinct impression that if I didn't want Tan out, then I wasn't really welcome on the march.

Ignoring this, I marched anyway. It begun well enough (apart from someone's child in a full red strip in the middle of the photo opportunities! ). It soon became apparent that the march wasn't about blue, but about TAN OUT.

To the several people who I have discussed this with over the past week or so, I apologise (Craig, Mario Polotelli et al) - as you were right & I was wrong. BU is about getting Tan Out, which is not the right way to go.

The songs sung went from singing about Swansea (why? totally pointless) to calling Tan a ladyboy and songs with a racist element.

The plan was to stop at the Ninian gates and tie blue scarves, posters, shirts, banners etc to the gates - great idea I thought... except that the gates were pretty much bypassed & headed straight for the grandstand.

Crowds quickly dispersed from there & we were left with a few climbing on the Keenor statue (and we have a go at Tan for disrespecting CCFC history?!) & it fizzled out.

BU had much promise, but I fear that today's event did it far more damage than good.

So BU have blown it so it seems. That is a shame if true,

So where do we go from here or is the fight lost?

So BU have blown it so it seems. That is a shame if true,

So where do we go from here or is the fight lost?

Moving on and away from BU.
Ian, the fight is not lost, BLUE is the main colour by our fans at away games by far, also at home games it is increasing every home game.
A meeting with the Supporters Club/Trust/This Forum/Mikes Forum is going to be arranged and some good plans are going to be put in place

We have a manager/team to support and we can all do it together, but hopefully all in BLUE eventually

So BU have blown it so it seems. That is a shame if true,

So where do we go from here or is the fight lost?

I really wanted to come on here and say how great it was being on the march... but it wasn't. The songs that could be construed as racist was the low blow for me, as was climbing all over the Fred Keenor statue.

BU needs a strong and consistent message/mission statement & stick to it - or it will risk alienating everyone before getting anywhere.

I like the sound of this annis.All these organisations have contacts within the club and Imo it's important to try and work with the club and not against it.

So BU have blown it so it seems. That is a shame if true,

So where do we go from here or is the fight lost?

Moving on and away from BU.
Ian, the fight is not lost, BLUE is the main colour by our fans at away games by far, also at home games it is increasing every home game.
A meeting with the Supporters Club/Trust/This Forum/Mikes Forum is going to be arranged and some good plans are going to be put in place

We have a manager/team to support and we can all do it together, but hopefully all in BLUE eventually

Well lets hope so Annis.

The forums are the small partners in that conglomerate. The supporters club and Trust are more established and need to step up to the mark now. There has been bugger all coming from them 2 and it makes you wonder if they are in Tans pocket. Well now is the time for them to throw caution to the wind, leave their comfort zone and start doing something constructive that their members have voted for, well I know the Trust member have had a vote in favour of the blue.

So BU have blown it so it seems. That is a shame if true,

So where do we go from here or is the fight lost?

I really wanted to come on here and say how great it was being on the march... but it wasn't. The songs that could be construed as racist was the low blow for me, as was climbing all over the Fred Keenor statue.

BU needs a strong and consistent message/mission statement & stick to it - or it will risk alienating everyone before getting anywhere.

I don't think there's any way back for Bu .Their finished.

BU started off well, but they've gone right downhill. If they just worked on getting blue back maybe they'd get somewhere. They also need to stop with the fascist chanting and abuse.

Shame really as they had so much potential. Just look at the Say No To Hull Tigers group. They're doing it right IMO

I wanted to join the march today but my dad didn't want to set off too early as the march was at 2pm and the game kicked off at 4pm, but it looks like I didn't miss much.

BU seems to be really unorganized, I thought it was all about wanting the return of our blue strip but it seems like there are too many members who are spoiling it by being abusive and forgetting the motive. I can see why fans are put off. It's a shame really because it started off so well.

So BU have blown it so it seems. That is a shame if true,

So where do we go from here or is the fight lost?

I really wanted to come on here and say how great it was being on the march... but it wasn't. The songs that could be construed as racist was the low blow for me, as was climbing all over the Fred Keenor statue.

BU needs a strong and consistent message/mission statement & stick to it - or it will risk alienating everyone before getting anywhere.

Alex, I know what it took for you to come on here and say what you did (on the BU subject) and I applaud your candour

I am in full support of any sensible/achievable 'plan' on a return to blue that might even be 'considered' by Vincent Tan, but to gain majority support I believe that this must be done with a respect, dignity and a clearly set out plan of non-destructive action(s) that are not aimed at destabilising the club or (metaphorically at least) pissing Tan off when he holds all the aces

Wearing 'Blue' at home is the most obvious 'peaceful' protest an that has held pretty strong this season, to date. But for me, Bakedalaker touches on the 'best' course of action above, where he talks about 'the Trust' and their mandate from the members to (quote) "VOTE BLUE"

I could support that all day long, as they are our 'recognised' link with the club on such matters. I'm not sure Tan actually would change his mind, but I believe it would have more chance through this channel than the 'confused' one that is/was BU

The 'Trust' route won't suit everyone, but then again not everyone has solely the best interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart; as you so sadly witnessed today

As someone who is keen to see Cardiff City return to blue, I've been supporting BU in their quest of doing so & today went along to the march held before the game.

I marched today. I have disagreed with a few things that BU have done, but looked beyond that and went along as I want blue back & wanted to do something to air that view. Many are looking for the "perfect protest", which is simply impossible - as everyone has different views.

Sadly, today's march has given me a different view of BU & it is not in favour of BU.

I arrived at the castle with a friend and we were greeted warmly by some other fans. I asked some questions to other fans about Tan & I was given the distinct impression that if I didn't want Tan out, then I wasn't really welcome on the march.

Ignoring this, I marched anyway. It begun well enough (apart from someone's child in a full red strip in the middle of the photo opportunities! ). It soon became apparent that the march wasn't about blue, but about TAN OUT.

To the several people who I have discussed this with over the past week or so, I apologise (Craig, Mario Polotelli et al) - as you were right & I was wrong. BU is about getting Tan Out, which is not the right way to go.

The songs sung went from singing about Swansea (why? totally pointless) to calling Tan a ladyboy and songs with a racist element.

The plan was to stop at the Ninian gates and tie blue scarves, posters, shirts, banners etc to the gates - great idea I thought... except that the gates were pretty much bypassed & headed straight for the grandstand.

Crowds quickly dispersed from there & we were left with a few climbing on the Keenor statue (and we have a go at Tan for disrespecting CCFC history?!) & it fizzled out.

BU had much promise, but I fear that today's event did it far more damage than good.

i dont think you were wrong for trying.....unlike some of us,you wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.

As someone who is keen to see Cardiff City return to blue, I've been supporting BU in their quest of doing so & today went along to the march held before the game.

I marched today. I have disagreed with a few things that BU have done, but looked beyond that and went along as I want blue back & wanted to do something to air that view. Many are looking for the "perfect protest", which is simply impossible - as everyone has different views.

Sadly, today's march has given me a different view of BU & it is not in favour of BU.

I arrived at the castle with a friend and we were greeted warmly by some other fans. I asked some questions to other fans about Tan & I was given the distinct impression that if I didn't want Tan out, then I wasn't really welcome on the march.

Ignoring this, I marched anyway. It begun well enough (apart from someone's child in a full red strip in the middle of the photo opportunities! ). It soon became apparent that the march wasn't about blue, but about TAN OUT.

To the several people who I have discussed this with over the past week or so, I apologise (Craig, Mario Polotelli et al) - as you were right & I was wrong. BU is about getting Tan Out, which is not the right way to go.

The songs sung went from singing about Swansea (why? totally pointless) to calling Tan a ladyboy and songs with a racist element.

The plan was to stop at the Ninian gates and tie blue scarves, posters, shirts, banners etc to the gates - great idea I thought... except that the gates were pretty much bypassed & headed straight for the grandstand.

Crowds quickly dispersed from there & we were left with a few climbing on the Keenor statue (and we have a go at Tan for disrespecting CCFC history?!) & it fizzled out.

BU had much promise, but I fear that today's event did it far more damage than good.

First off, good to see you again yesterday, Alex.

Personally, I didn't hear anything of a racist nature, although, admittedly, I spent much of the march engrossed in conversation. I did, however, hear plenty of "Tan out" chants. Given events of the past 6 or 7 weeks that was probably inevitable.

The numbers attending the march were disappointing but not entirely unexpected. The 'heat' over 'Moodygate' has died down over the past 3 weeks or so and I don't believe that there is a huge appetite for marches and protests amongst Cardiff City supporters, generally. Although, I'd like to be proved wrong.

My attitude towards BU has been the same from the off: I will support any protest group that actively attempts to see the restoration of our traditional identity, through entirely peaceful means.

Whilst BU are not perfect, on the whole I think they've done a great job. The 'witch hunt' against Sian Branson has been pretty shameful.

I would, personally, like to see CCST, CCSC, forum representatives and BU all work together to formulate some plans to peacefully oppose the rebrand.

I think that there is plenty of mileage in things like blue scarf giveaways and even a joint statement from the above bodies calling on fans to think long and hard before purchasing any red gear - if, of course, they'd prefer to see the return of blue.

Agree Phil, it's time for the CCST & CCSC to step up & support. In fairness, the Trust seem to have found their voice more recently. Let's hope they continue in that vein.

I will always support anyone attempting to peacefully protest a return to our identity; but I feel that BU are heading down the wrong road at the minute & are losing the support of the people who they should be trying to get onside.

I really hope they can turn it around.

No need to apologise Chuckles, I take no pleasure from being right on this occasion, I was just pointing out there had been an obvious shift in emphasis from restoring blue to Tan Out.

As I said from my own point of view I supported and wish they just stuck with their original aim of getting the blue back and didnt get involved with the club politics (ie: moodygate) and wanting Tan out.

Sians heart is obviously in the right place but I think allowing the group to become a Tan Out group maybe a bit misguided.

Think one thing everyone can agree on is that Cardiff City should play in Blue with the original Crest.

As someone who is keen to see Cardiff City return to blue, I've been supporting BU in their quest of doing so & today went along to the march held before the game.

I marched today. I have disagreed with a few things that BU have done, but looked beyond that and went along as I want blue back & wanted to do something to air that view. Many are looking for the "perfect protest", which is simply impossible - as everyone has different views.

Sadly, today's march has given me a different view of BU & it is not in favour of BU.

I arrived at the castle with a friend and we were greeted warmly by some other fans. I asked some questions to other fans about Tan & I was given the distinct impression that if I didn't want Tan out, then I wasn't really welcome on the march.

Ignoring this, I marched anyway. It begun well enough (apart from someone's child in a full red strip in the middle of the photo opportunities! ). It soon became apparent that the march wasn't about blue, but about TAN OUT.

To the several people who I have discussed this with over the past week or so, I apologise (Craig, Mario Polotelli et al) - as you were right & I was wrong. BU is about getting Tan Out, which is not the right way to go.

The songs sung went from singing about Swansea (why? totally pointless) to calling Tan a ladyboy and songs with a racist element.

The plan was to stop at the Ninian gates and tie blue scarves, posters, shirts, banners etc to the gates - great idea I thought... except that the gates were pretty much bypassed & headed straight for the grandstand.

Crowds quickly dispersed from there & we were left with a few climbing on the Keenor statue (and we have a go at Tan for disrespecting CCFC history?!) & it fizzled out.

BU had much promise, but I fear that today's event did it far more damage than good.

First off, good to see you again yesterday, Alex.

Personally, I didn't hear anything of a racist nature, although, admittedly, I spent much of the march engrossed in conversation. I did, however, hear plenty of "Tan out" chants. Given events of the past 6 or 7 weeks that was probably inevitable.

The numbers attending the march were disappointing but not entirely unexpected. The 'heat' over 'Moodygate' has died down over the past 3 weeks or so and I don't believe that there is a huge appetite for marches and protests amongst Cardiff City supporters, generally. Although, I'd like to be proved wrong.

My attitude towards BU has been the same from the off: I will support any protest group that actively attempts to see the restoration of our traditional identity, through entirely peaceful means.

Whilst BU are not perfect, on the whole I think they've done a great job. The 'witch hunt' against Sian Branson has been pretty shameful.

I would, personally, like to see CCST, CCSC, forum representatives and BU all work together to formulate some plans to peacefully oppose the rebrand.

I think that there is plenty of mileage in things like blue scarf giveaways and even a joint statement from the above bodies calling on fans to think long and hard before purchasing any red gear - if, of course, they'd prefer to see the return of blue.

Out of the 25500 actual city fans there yesterday , how many were in the march ?

As someone who is keen to see Cardiff City return to blue, I've been supporting BU in their quest of doing so & today went along to the march held before the game.

I marched today. I have disagreed with a few things that BU have done, but looked beyond that and went along as I want blue back & wanted to do something to air that view. Many are looking for the "perfect protest", which is simply impossible - as everyone has different views.

Sadly, today's march has given me a different view of BU & it is not in favour of BU.

I arrived at the castle with a friend and we were greeted warmly by some other fans. I asked some questions to other fans about Tan & I was given the distinct impression that if I didn't want Tan out, then I wasn't really welcome on the march.

Ignoring this, I marched anyway. It begun well enough (apart from someone's child in a full red strip in the middle of the photo opportunities! ). It soon became apparent that the march wasn't about blue, but about TAN OUT.

To the several people who I have discussed this with over the past week or so, I apologise (Craig, Mario Polotelli et al) - as you were right & I was wrong. BU is about getting Tan Out, which is not the right way to go.

The songs sung went from singing about Swansea (why? totally pointless) to calling Tan a ladyboy and songs with a racist element.

The plan was to stop at the Ninian gates and tie blue scarves, posters, shirts, banners etc to the gates - great idea I thought... except that the gates were pretty much bypassed & headed straight for the grandstand.

Crowds quickly dispersed from there & we were left with a few climbing on the Keenor statue (and we have a go at Tan for disrespecting CCFC history?!) & it fizzled out.

BU had much promise, but I fear that today's event did it far more damage than good.

Well Chuckles,though your partial act of contrition is noteworthy it will count for nothing unless you and and a few others learn the lessons of blindly backing a cause without looking into it properly.Its a pity your apology stopped short and didn't include the many who could see the BU for what they were.You have consistently harangued people with a different view to you, so much so, that if they turned on you you would often cry like a baby to the mods.Now that the real workings of the BU have been laid bare for all to see it is hoped that the infestation of those idiots supporting them on this board will cease for a while.

No need to apologise Chuckles, I take no pleasure from being right on this occasion, I was just pointing out there had been an obvious shift in emphasis from restoring blue to Tan Out.

As I said from my own point of view I supported and wish they just stuck with their original aim of getting the blue back and didnt get involved with the club politics (ie: moodygate) and wanting Tan out.

Sians heart is obviously in the right place but I think allowing the group to become a Tan Out group maybe a bit misguided.

100% agree..found last week very frustrating , seemed obvious that BU had now morphed into a group concerned with far more than the colour..wanted a say in things that to be frank, they are out of their depth with,as am i, our club like it or not is now a multi million pound business .
it jumped from trying to convince the owner the rebrand is a mistake { because convincing Tan is the ONLY way}.
to a bunch of people with collection buckets trying to oust a multi millionaire.
personally i desparatelyl wanted them to see sense and make a strong statement about being purely about the rebrand.
can only hope now that some new group pick up the batton

Well Chuckles,though your partial act of contrition is noteworthy it will count for nothing unless you and and a few others learn the lessons of blindly backing a cause without looking into it properly.Its a pity your apology stopped short and didn't include the many who could see the BU for what they were.You have consistently harangued people with a different view to you, so much so, that if they turned on you you would often cry like a baby to the mods.Now that the real workings of the BU have been laid bare for all to see it is hoped that the infestation of those idiots supporting them on this board will cease for a while.

I had argued with Craig and Polo about BU aims and was wrong - that's what the apology was for.. I don't have to apologise to anyone else.

I will continue to debate with others who disagree with me & will continue to report anyone who's abusive.

I just wanted to give my thoughts on BU March yesterday & took the opportunity to admit to a few I had debated with that I was wrong.

Simple.

I echo Polo chuckles. No need to apologise to me.....its admirable that you believed in BU and i feel they have let the likes of yourself down with the antics you describe.

Well Chuckles,though your partial act of contrition is noteworthy it will count for nothing unless you and and a few others learn the lessons of blindly backing a cause without looking into it properly.Its a pity your apology stopped short and didn't include the many who could see the BU for what they were.You have consistently harangued people with a different view to you, so much so, that if they turned on you you would often cry like a baby to the mods.Now that the real workings of the BU have been laid bare for all to see it is hoped that the infestation of those idiots supporting them on this board will cease for a while.

I had argued with Craig and Polo about BU aims and was wrong - that's what the apology was for.. I don't have to apologise to anyone else.

I will continue to debate with others who disagree with me & will continue to report anyone who's abusive.

I just wanted to give my thoughts on BU March yesterday & took the opportunity to admit to a few I had debated with that I was wrong.

Simple.

Fine,oh hows the petition coming.

Fine,oh hows the petition coming.

Sad that you feel the need to mock someone who did something to stand up against the rebranding of our club.

I echo Polo chuckles. No need to apologise to me.....its admirable that you believed in BU and i feel they have let the likes of yourself down with the antics you describe.

I will support anyone who wants to see a return to blue & I really wanted to come on here and big up the march yesterday. Sadly, it wasn't to be.

Well Chuckles,though your partial act of contrition is noteworthy it will count for nothing unless you and and a few others learn the lessons of blindly backing a cause without looking into it properly.Its a pity your apology stopped short and didn't include the many who could see the BU for what they were.You have consistently harangued people with a different view to you, so much so, that if they turned on you you would often cry like a baby to the mods.Now that the real workings of the BU have been laid bare for all to see it is hoped that the infestation of those idiots supporting them on this board will cease for a while.

I had argued with Craig and Polo about BU aims and was wrong - that's what the apology was for.. I don't have to apologise to anyone else.

I will continue to debate with others who disagree with me & will continue to report anyone who's abusive.

I just wanted to give my thoughts on BU March yesterday & took the opportunity to admit to a few I had debated with that I was wrong.

Simple.

Fine,oh hows the petition coming.

Sneggy Me and Chuckles do not see eye to eye, but he is the first open BU supporter to come on and hold his hands up.
No need to kick em when they're down.

As where some have come on and pointed fingers and passed the buck, he came out and admitted that he got it wrong in this occasion.

He did not have to....

As someone who is keen to see Cardiff City return to blue, I've been supporting BU in their quest of doing so & today went along to the march held before the game.

I marched today. I have disagreed with a few things that BU have done, but looked beyond that and went along as I want blue back & wanted to do something to air that view. Many are looking for the "perfect protest", which is simply impossible - as everyone has different views.

Sadly, today's march has given me a different view of BU & it is not in favour of BU.

I arrived at the castle with a friend and we were greeted warmly by some other fans. I asked some questions to other fans about Tan & I was given the distinct impression that if I didn't want Tan out, then I wasn't really welcome on the march.

Ignoring this, I marched anyway. It begun well enough (apart from someone's child in a full red strip in the middle of the photo opportunities! ). It soon became apparent that the march wasn't about blue, but about TAN OUT.

To the several people who I have discussed this with over the past week or so, I apologise (Craig, Mario Polotelli et al) - as you were right & I was wrong. BU is about getting Tan Out, which is not the right way to go.

The songs sung went from singing about Swansea (why? totally pointless) to calling Tan a ladyboy and songs with a racist element.

The plan was to stop at the Ninian gates and tie blue scarves, posters, shirts, banners etc to the gates - great idea I thought... except that the gates were pretty much bypassed & headed straight for the grandstand.

Crowds quickly dispersed from there & we were left with a few climbing on the Keenor statue (and we have a go at Tan for disrespecting CCFC history?!) & it fizzled out.

BU had much promise, but I fear that today's event did it far more damage than good.

Barry, you take a lot of stick on this forum a lot of it is deserved but much of it isn't, i only want to see us play in blue but i obviously don't feel as determined about it as you do, it's been quite obvious to me for a while now that the agenda of many following the BU is more than returning to our rightfull colours, they want tan out but can't give an answer to the question of who is going to bank roll the club if he goes, also many of the knukleheads who back the BU on this forum are not helping their cause with some of the drivel they post, for you to come on here and apologise to certain posters and say you were wrong says a lot more about yourself, good on you.

The 12-15 people who stayed at FT in the Ninian Stand with banners looked embarrassing.
Trying to get on sky.
In a stadium that holds 25k+ bluebirds and 12-15 staying behind..............
Completely trying to take the shine of a fantastic result.
i can enlighten you that once spotted from level 4 in the grandstand and on the hospitality level, people were laughing and embarrassed for them while looking out the window.
Even the camera men on level 4 started filming and then decided not to bother.

I want blue, I do, but what i read about BU, i will never affiliate myself with them

Fine,oh hows the petition coming.

Sad that you feel the need to mock someone who did something to stand up against the rebranding of our club.

you did your fair share of mocking last week .only to now come to the conclusion that those you mocked were actually right.
as you have admitted,the march you attended was NOT about getting our colours back,was about getting Tan out.
so you have no high ground here for standing up to anything, you went on a march you didnt agree with.
have to ask.........is BU wanting Tan out now OFFICIAL?..because they still havent released a statement to that effect.

you did your fair share of mocking last week .only to now come to the conclusion that those you mocked were actually right.
as you have admitted,the march you attended was NOT about getting our colours back,was about getting Tan out.
so you have no high ground here for standing up to anything, you went on a march you didnt agree with.
have to ask.........is BU wanting Tan out now OFFICIAL?..because they still havent released a statement to that effect.

No mocking, debating.

I echo Polo chuckles. No need to apologise to me.....its admirable that you believed in BU and i feel they have let the likes of yourself down with the antics you describe.

I will support anyone who wants to see a return to blue & I really wanted to come on here and big up the march yesterday. Sadly, it wasn't to be.

Fair play to you Chuckles. I still remember you did a good job in creating a petition.

So what's next? Will you still continue supporting BU?

I echo Polo chuckles. No need to apologise to me.....its admirable that you believed in BU and i feel they have let the likes of yourself down with the antics you describe.

I will support anyone who wants to see a return to blue & I really wanted to come on here and big up the march yesterday. Sadly, it wasn't to be.

Fair play to you Chuckles. I still remember you did a good job in creating a petition.

So what's next? Will you still continue supporting BU?

I think it's now a cross roads for BU. Can they change things around a bit and rescue some support from other fans? Or is it too late?

I fear it may be the latter. Annis' proposal about a meeting regarding all interested parties sounds interesting though.