Are the wounds at Cardiff Repairable?

Pro Blue/Red or just pro Cardiff, is the divide ever going to be reconnected?
Friendships and bonds that have been strong for many years have been broken.
We all wanted to see Cardiff a success,We all wanted Premier League.
But none of us wanted it like this.
What's the solution? If Tan Returned the crest and colours and continued would all be forgiven?
If Tan left and debts were still owed,what or where would we be or become?
Tan said if he were to leave he would leave us in good hands. Can he be believed?

So many uncertainties and yet so many have made their minds up.

History is untouchable.
It's there it's documented and filed.
Identity is changeable,but at what cost.

Tans Image for Cardiff is Fire and Passion.

His Reality is Confusion,Hatred and Resentment.

Everyone has an opinion,Everyone has a voice.

But who has the answers?

Pro Blue/Red or just pro Cardiff, is the divide ever going to be reconnected?
Friendships and bonds that have been strong for many years have been broken.
We all wanted to see Cardiff a success,We all wanted Premier League.
But none of us wanted it like this.
What's the solution? If Tan Returned the crest and colours and continued would all be forgiven?
If Tan left and debts were still owed,what or where would we be or become?
Tan said if he were to leave he would leave us in good hands. Can he be believed?

So many uncertainties and yet so many have made their minds up.

History is untouchable.
It's there it's documented and filed.
Identity is changeable,but at what cost.

Tans Image for Cardiff is Fire and Passion.

His Reality is Confusion,Hatred and Resentment.

Everyone has an opinion,Everyone has a voice.

But who has the answers?

i dont think many are that certain tbh..im not..i want blue back,im certain about that,and we have no power over it,im certain about that also.we can only show our disapproval by wearing blue not red.i dont see the point in poking the ONLY guy who has any say in what colour we play in with a pointed stick.history will judge whether Tan was good or bad for Cardiff City.

Pro Blue/Red or just pro Cardiff, is the divide ever going to be reconnected?
Friendships and bonds that have been strong for many years have been broken.
We all wanted to see Cardiff a success,We all wanted Premier League.
But none of us wanted it like this.
What's the solution? If Tan Returned the crest and colours and continued would all be forgiven?
If Tan left and debts were still owed,what or where would we be or become?
Tan said if he were to leave he would leave us in good hands. Can he be believed?

So many uncertainties and yet so many have made their minds up.

History is untouchable.
It's there it's documented and filed.
Identity is changeable,but at what cost.

Tans Image for Cardiff is Fire and Passion.

His Reality is Confusion,Hatred and Resentment.

Everyone has an opinion,Everyone has a voice.

But who has the answers?

The solution is right there. If our badge and colours return then everything will be back to how it was before the rebrand.

Honestly, even if we got our full identity back tomorrow, I think it would takes years for fans to forget the divide that the rebrand has caused.

Honestly, even if we got our full identity back tomorrow, I think it would takes years for fans to forget the divide that the rebrand has caused.

That may be the case but to answer the question, the wounds are definitely repairable.

The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

I don't tend to get involved with this re-brand debate but seeing fans of your club "my enemy" is beyond pathetic. Grow up.

The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

I don't tend to get involved with this re-brand debate but seeing fans of your club "my enemy" is beyond pathetic. Grow up.

Agreed. I'm blue to the core but I will never consider a fellow fan an "enemy" just because he/she chooses to wear red.

The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

You are pathetic, they are still Cardiff fans, can't believe we even got "fans" like you. Get a grip

Tan has caused so much damage to are club the man just doesnt get it one bit but it is all repairable. I have never had it in for anybody thats red thats up to them they are doing what they think is right for them and thats fine.

What tan has done to me is irreparable the fans never did it I don't hold them responsible but it would of been nice to stand up for the proud identity of the club but we are all different.

It is definitely repairable in my eyes but tan has to go and the new owner has to put us back to blue before any talk of a repair starts

Tan has caused so much damage to are club the man just doesnt get it one bit but it is all repairable. I have never had it in for anybody thats red thats up to them they are doing what they think is right for them and thats fine.

What tan has done to me is irreparable the fans never did it I don't hold them responsible but it would of been nice to stand up for the proud identity of the club but we are all different.

It is definitely repairable in my eyes but tan has to go and the new owner has to put us back to blue before any talk of a repair starts

Would you welcome Sam?

The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

It's turds like you that our club need to get rid of, a Cardiff City fan is a Cardff City fan no matter what colours he or she choose to wear, me, i'll never ever be seen wearing red but that's my choice, the same goes for any of our fans who decide to wear red, i would much prefer to see someone from Cardiff/Valleys in the red of Cardiff City than the red of Liverpool or Man Utd any day of the week, your attitude stinks.

Honestly, even if we got our full identity back tomorrow, I think it would takes years for fans to forget the divide that the rebrand has caused.

i was about to disagree with you here.then bluebird64 posted.
i am 100% blue. but do understand why some have embraced the red,it doesnt mean they are pro red or infact anti blue, the vast majority of people that wear red would wear green,pink,or blue nxt season depends what colour the team are.it quite simply means more to some than others. i for one will not hold any grudge towards these people,most of whom would most likely prefer blue anyway.
Tan was lucky..had he attempted this at almost any other point in our history,there would be huge resistence.it only took a few to shout the red or dead message and we folded

I have just seen this. I have clearly been clearly hacked but I suppose thats what you get for leaving yourself logged in.
Just to reiterate my position on this. Reds are not my enemy and even if they were then I would at least articulate why I felt this way rather than issue a one liner.
I do however think that any grown man who chooses to wear red is harming the return to blue cause but when kick off starts then we are all fans supporting the team regardless.
The other comment about Tan being my enemy is true and I will never forgive him for dividing our fan base.

Not for me, I've lost all respect for a large number of my own clubs fans, Cardiff City used to be all about identity, travelling to England en masse and being united in our love for the club. Now we are divided and a laughing stock all thanks to one egotisical wanker and success hungry fans with no backbone.

I think its very repairable.

look at how our fanbase has grown recently. If we sustain premier league status, the fan base will continue to grow. Now if its growing the new fans are obviously ok with what is going on, and dont really relate to the identity debate.

Now the stadium is going to be around 35000 in the near future, and in my opinion we will get close to capacity in sales very often, thats if we stay up... So that will be around 9,000 new fans, add that to the guys who have turned up this season, and we are close to 50% of fans that cant be that bothered about the loss of identity, as they werent around for it.

If we go down any time soon, i think thousands will leave us, back to about 22,000 possibly alot lower, if we cant get back up. Then nothing will repair the relationship with the heart and core of the fan base.

I hate the rebrand but would never lose friends over it, far bigger things in life to worry about

I think its very repairable.

look at how our fanbase has grown recently. If we sustain premier league status, the fan base will continue to grow. Now if its growing the new fans are obviously ok with what is going on, and dont really relate to the identity debate.

Now the stadium is going to be around 35000 in the near future, and in my opinion we will get close to capacity in sales very often, thats if we stay up... So that will be around 9,000 new fans, add that to the guys who have turned up this season, and we are close to 50% of fans that cant be that bothered about the loss of identity, as they werent around for it.

If we go down any time soon, i think thousands will leave us, back to about 22,000 possibly alot lower, if we cant get back up. Then nothing will repair the relationship with the heart and core of the fan base.

I disagree. Just because we have new fans then why would you assume that they all are not bothered about our identity. I will remind you that not all adults are devoid of morals.

I have just seen this. I have clearly been clearly hacked but I suppose thats what you get for leaving yourself logged in.
Just to reiterate my position on this. Reds are not my enemy and even if they were then I would at least articulate why I felt this way rather than issue a one liner.
I do however think that any grown man who chooses to wear red is harming the return to blue cause but when kick off starts then we are all fans supporting the team regardless.
The other comment about Tan being my enemy is true and I will never forgive him for dividing our fan base.

i blame us the fans as much as Tan tbh. it did look like he had done a u turn.then all this red or dead kicked in and quelled the resistance

The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

It's turds like you that our club need to get rid of, a Cardiff City fan is a Cardff City fan no matter what colours he or she choose to wear, me, i'll never ever be seen wearing red but that's my choice, the same goes for any of our fans who decide to wear red, i would much prefer to see someone from Cardiff/Valleys in the red of Cardiff City than the red of Liverpool or Man Utd any day of the week, your attitude stinks.

Great post, echo's my sentiments exactly

Its hard for me to understand as ive never fallen out with anyone or know anyone who has fallen out with someone about the rebrand.

Changing us back to Blue would solve any problem I have with Tan instantly.

Honestly, even if we got our full identity back tomorrow, I think it would takes years for fans to forget the divide that the rebrand has caused.

I agree, solving the problem Tan caused won't solve the problem fans have caused by ripping into each other.

I'd be fine either way now, the amount of idiocy from certain camps has caused me to become very apathetic about the colour issue.

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The reds are my enemy and so is Tan. Agree or disagree but I will not be accused of sitting on the fence over this issue.

It's turds like you that our club need to get rid of, a Cardiff City fan is a Cardff City fan no matter what colours he or she choose to wear, me, i'll never ever be seen wearing red but that's my choice, the same goes for any of our fans who decide to wear red, i would much prefer to see someone from Cardiff/Valleys in the red of Cardiff City than the red of Liverpool or Man Utd any day of the week, your attitude stinks.

Great post, echo's my sentiments exactly

Agreed!

I think its very repairable.

look at how our fanbase has grown recently. If we sustain premier league status, the fan base will continue to grow. Now if its growing the new fans are obviously ok with what is going on, and dont really relate to the identity debate.

Now the stadium is going to be around 35000 in the near future, and in my opinion we will get close to capacity in sales very often, thats if we stay up... So that will be around 9,000 new fans, add that to the guys who have turned up this season, and we are close to 50% of fans that cant be that bothered about the loss of identity, as they werent around for it.

If we go down any time soon, i think thousands will leave us, back to about 22,000 possibly alot lower, if we cant get back up. Then nothing will repair the relationship with the heart and core of the fan base.

I disagree. Just because we have new fans then why would you assume that they all are not bothered about our identity. I will remind you that not all adults are devoid of morals.

So why are people turning up after the idenity change? Surely if they didnt like the change of kit and badge, why would they start watching city when everything has changed?

Theyu might have an opinion on it, but they cant be that bothered by it, as theyve started coming to games after the rebrand.

I also agree with the sentiments about not regarding reds as my enemy and it was my account in which it was written.

Have people really lost friends over this crap?

You shouldn't let football consume your life like this.

I think its very repairable.

look at how our fanbase has grown recently. If we sustain premier league status, the fan base will continue to grow. Now if its growing the new fans are obviously ok with what is going on, and dont really relate to the identity debate.

Now the stadium is going to be around 35000 in the near future, and in my opinion we will get close to capacity in sales very often, thats if we stay up... So that will be around 9,000 new fans, add that to the guys who have turned up this season, and we are close to 50% of fans that cant be that bothered about the loss of identity, as they werent around for it.

If we go down any time soon, i think thousands will leave us, back to about 22,000 possibly alot lower, if we cant get back up. Then nothing will repair the relationship with the heart and core of the fan base.

I disagree. Just because we have new fans then why would you assume that they all are not bothered about our identity. I will remind you that not all adults are devoid of morals.

So why are people turning up after the idenity change? Surely if they didnt like the change of kit and badge, why would they start watching city when everything has changed?

Theyu might have an opinion on it, but they cant be that bothered by it, as theyve started coming to games after the rebrand.

There are many fans who oppose the rebrand who still turn up for matches in their droves. To assume that all new fans do not support the blue campaign is wrong and not factual in any way.

I think its very repairable.

look at how our fanbase has grown recently. If we sustain premier league status, the fan base will continue to grow. Now if its growing the new fans are obviously ok with what is going on, and dont really relate to the identity debate.

Now the stadium is going to be around 35000 in the near future, and in my opinion we will get close to capacity in sales very often, thats if we stay up... So that will be around 9,000 new fans, add that to the guys who have turned up this season, and we are close to 50% of fans that cant be that bothered about the loss of identity, as they werent around for it.

If we go down any time soon, i think thousands will leave us, back to about 22,000 possibly alot lower, if we cant get back up. Then nothing will repair the relationship with the heart and core of the fan base.

I disagree. Just because we have new fans then why would you assume that they all are not bothered about our identity. I will remind you that not all adults are devoid of morals.

So why are people turning up after the idenity change? Surely if they didnt like the change of kit and badge, why would they start watching city when everything has changed?

Theyu might have an opinion on it, but they cant be that bothered by it, as theyve started coming to games after the rebrand.

There are many fans who oppose the rebrand who still turn up for matches in their droves. To assume that all new fans do not support the blue campaign is wrong and not factual in any way.

Im not saying they dont support the blue campaign. im saying that it they will repair their relationship with the club alot easier.

I have just seen this. I have clearly been clearly hacked but I suppose thats what you get for leaving yourself logged in.
Just to reiterate my position on this. Reds are not my enemy and even if they were then I would at least articulate why I felt this way rather than issue a one liner.
I do however think that any grown man who chooses to wear red is harming the return to blue cause but when kick off starts then we are all fans supporting the team regardless.
The other comment about Tan being my enemy is true and I will never forgive him for dividing our fan base.

The old hacked excuse