Tan's Image

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

Wot a load of codswallop.

Wot a load of codswallop.

Not at all. The press do see Tan as a clown and will continue to do so. His image is now tarnished.

He's been slaughtered in the media recently. The way the Moody business was handled was a terrible mistake on his part.

He's been slaughtered in the media recently. The way the Moody business was handled was a terrible mistake on his part.

Agreed so how the previous poster can say its codswallop is beyond me.

He's been slaughtered in the media recently. The way the Moody business was handled was a terrible mistake on his part.

Which is quite right but that has nothing to do with the opinion expressed by the OP which I believe to be fanciful personal opinion or codswallop.

He's been slaughtered in the media recently. The way the Moody business was handled was a terrible mistake on his part.

Which is quite right but that has nothing to do with the opinion expressed by the OP which I believe to be fanciful personal opinion or codswallop.

You may interpret it as fanciful but its not untrue is it.
Tan did deny our players their full premier bonus yet 2 weeks later was giving out envelopes of £50,000 to charity.
Tan is seen as a clown by the media.
The only comment which is sujective is that Tan may redeem himself by going back to blue which if your read was accompanied by the words in my opinion.

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

Negative nonsense from you again. Doom and gloom all the time. If I was you I’d take up another sport or maybe continue following the jacks

The fact you think he gives money to charities to look good is disgusting

yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

Please explain the word "rightful"? why were they rightful?
My understanding is this was not a contracted bonus and the club was under no obligation to pay any bonus.

yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

Please explain the word "rightful"? why were they rightful?
My understanding is this was not a contracted bonus and the club was under no obligation to pay any bonus.

Which is what gets my goat.People post stuff like this without trying to find out if its true or not.People think it enhances their point of view when the opposite is the case.

yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

Please explain the word "rightful"? why were they rightful?
My understanding is this was not a contracted bonus and the club was under no obligation to pay any bonus.

Although not contractual it is the done thing hence the row. The first team players compromised over the issue so that the more junior players would not lose out. Typical of Tan, he screws his own players but can easily find the money to make himself look good by dishing out £50,000 in envelopes to charity. I bet the players were thinking that charity begins at home.

The fact you think he gives money to charities to look good is disgusting

hmmm..................you can be charitable and anonymous you know................

yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

Please explain the word "rightful"? why were they rightful?
My understanding is this was not a contracted bonus and the club was under no obligation to pay any bonus.

2 blue, it would be nice for a change if you gave an opinion on the subject of the thread which is Tans image rather than playing semantics with the odd word, thats if you can be bothered to come back down off the safety of that fence you sometimes sit on.

yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

Please explain the word "rightful"? why were they rightful?
My understanding is this was not a contracted bonus and the club was under no obligation to pay any bonus.

2 blue, it would be nice for a change if you gave an opinion on the subject of the thread which is Tans image rather than playing semantics with the odd word, thats if you can be bothered to come back down off the safety of that fence you sometimes sit on.

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

You believe he gave away money in envelopes? So how do you know he was trying to buy popularity? or do you believe he was! Without knowing the facts! Everyone knows he has given lots money away previously, and that was slagged off by people on here, face facts anyone who dislikes tan will always find fault with what good he does no matter what reasons are!

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

You believe he gave away money in envelopes? So how do you know he was trying to buy popularity? or do you believe he was! Without knowing the facts! Everyone knows he has given lots money away previously, and that was slagged off by people on here, face facts anyone who dislikes tan will always find fault with what good he does no matter what reasons are!

How do I know he was after publicity hmm let me think.... Perhaps the fact it was an organised event covered by the media and Tan made a point of dishing out envelopes stashed with cash. If Tan did not want the publicity then he could of easily made the same donation but could have done it anonymously.

[quote="CjBluebird17"]The fact you think he gives money to charities to look good is disgusting[/quote


Your naivety astounds me fella.

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

You believe he gave away money in envelopes? So how do you know he was trying to buy popularity? or do you believe he was! Without knowing the facts! Everyone knows he has given lots money away previously, and that was slagged off by people on here, face facts anyone who dislikes tan will always find fault with what good he does no matter what reasons are!

How do I know he was after publicity hmm let me think.... Perhaps the fact it was an organised event covered by the media and Tan made a point of dishing out envelopes stashed with cash. If Tan did not want the publicity then he could of easily made the same donation but could have done it anonymously.

But you believe he did Your words! People do lots of things at public events children in need is classic example! Some do it for publicity others don't, why should tan be any different? What was the event do you know? Was there a particular reason it was publicised? Was it planned public event? For all you know it was planned event. You are taking story sensationalising it for your benefit, yes tan wants publicity who doesn't?
Half the people post stuff on here for publicity and effect!

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

You believe he gave away money in envelopes? So how do you know he was trying to buy popularity? or do you believe he was! Without knowing the facts! Everyone knows he has given lots money away previously, and that was slagged off by people on here, face facts anyone who dislikes tan will always find fault with what good he does no matter what reasons are!

How do I know he was after publicity hmm let me think.... Perhaps the fact it was an organised event covered by the media and Tan made a point of dishing out envelopes stashed with cash. If Tan did not want the publicity then he could of easily made the same donation but could have done it anonymously.

But you believe he did Your words! People do lots of things at public events children in need is classic example! Some do it for publicity others don't, why should tan be any different? What was the event do you know? Was there a particular reason it was publicised? Was it planned public event? For all you know it was planned event. You are taking story sensationalising it for your benefit, yes tan wants publicity who doesn't?

If giving £1m to local charities makes someone a clown then I'll go on record to say 'I wish we had more clowns in this world'. You can say what you like about Tan but the fact is he give £1m to charities and whether he did that for his own image or for the good of the people is something we'll never truly know but can only speculate on.

Either way, regardless of such speculation, these local charities now have more money to spend and if that £1m goes to providing even one disabled/ill person with a better life or last moments of their life or helps save just one life then it was £1m well spent.

Tan has many negatives but he also has many positives and thats something people need to accept. He is not perfect and I have yet to hear him claim to be perfect but what I am seeing is people picking a side and then using every thing, even if it means twisting it, to bash him or support him. Its not black and white, its a grey area as he's not 100% positive in his actions or 100% negative in his actions. He's balanced pretty much like we all are.

Tan is all about image but he now has no credibilility left and this is being seized upon by the media.
A recent example of Tan trying to buy popularity was when he recently gave away considerable amounts of money to charities (£50,000 in envelopes I believe) yet a fortnight earlier he refused to pay our players their rightful Premier bonuses.

It is apparent that the press now regard him as a clown to be ridiculed and this position is not recoverable regardless of the amount of money he gives to charity. The only way in my opinion he has any chance of redeeming himself would be to go back to blue but that is extremely doubtful. If he does not go this way then I am afraid that his image and that of the club will be further tarnished for the forseeable future.

You believe he gave away money in envelopes? So how do you know he was trying to buy popularity? or do you believe he was! Without knowing the facts! Everyone knows he has given lots money away previously, and that was slagged off by people on here, face facts anyone who dislikes tan will always find fault with what good he does no matter what reasons are!

How do I know he was after publicity hmm let me think.... Perhaps the fact it was an organised event covered by the media and Tan made a point of dishing out envelopes stashed with cash. If Tan did not want the publicity then he could of easily made the same donation but could have done it anonymously.

But you believe he did Your words! People do lots of things at public events children in need is classic example! Some do it for publicity others don't, why should tan be any different? What was the event do you know? Was there a particular reason it was publicised? Was it planned public event? For all you know it was planned event. You are taking story sensationalising it for your benefit, yes tan wants publicity who doesn't?
Half the people post stuff on here for publicity and effect!

Yes I believe he did put money in envelopes to the surprise of one of the recipients may I add who opened it and found there was £50,000 cash in there.
So Alan back to the issue. Do you think that Tans image is tarnished for good or do you think a return to blue whould save his image?

If giving £1m to local charities makes someone a clown then I'll go on record to say 'I wish we had more clowns in this world'. You can say what you like about Tan but the fact is he give £1m to charities and whether he did that for his own image or for the good of the people is something we'll never truly know but can only speculate on.

Either way, regardless of such speculation, these local charities now have more money to spend and if that £1m goes to providing even one disabled/ill person with a better life or last moments of their life or helps save just one life then it was £1m well spent.

Tan has many negatives but he also has many positives and thats something people need to accept. He is not perfect and I have yet to hear him claim to be perfect but what I am seeing is people picking a side and then using every thing, even if it means twisting it, to bash him or support him. Its not black and white, its a grey area as he's not 100% positive in his actions or 100% negative in his actions. He's balanced pretty much like we all are.

There you go making up stories again. Tan is not a clown for making donations to charity but to do it 2 weeks after he screwed the players out of their full bonuses was ill advised and would not have gone unoticed by the players.
To now claim that Tan is somehow balanced is the best one I have heard for a while fair play.

Tan is seen as a clown by the media.

That's an absurd statement given most media outlets have their own opinions, often opposing opinions, on certain matters. Then you have to factor in that journalists themselves often go against the grain with their opinions as proven in the news lately with different journalists expressing different views on Anonymous.

There you go making up stories again. Tan is not a clown for making donations to charity but to do it 2 weeks after he screwed the players out of their full bonuses was ill advised and would not have gone unoticed by the players.

He had no contractual obligation to reward those players with the bonus mentioned. I'd like to see you demand a bonus at work when its not written into your contract. I'll suggest you'll either get laughed at, a warning or told to collect your things and leave depending on the particular environment you work in.

If you think people can just go demanding bonuses in the world of contracts then you're more naive than I initially thought.

To now claim that Tan is somehow balanced is the best one I have heard for a while fair play.

He is and you can't see it because of your deep rooted biased view of Tan. I can see that Tan has done good and bad. Any sensible and rational person will also see that. Chuckles has even admitted he has done good.

There you go making up stories again. Tan is not a clown for making donations to charity but to do it 2 weeks after he screwed the players out of their full bonuses was ill advised and would not have gone unoticed by the players.

He had no contractual obligation to reward those players with the bonus mentioned. I'd like to see you demand a bonus at work when its not written into your contract. I'll suggest you'll either get laughed at, a warning or told to collect your things and leave depending on the particular environment you work in.

If you think people can just go demanding bonuses in the world of contracts then you're more naive than I initially thought.

To now claim that Tan is somehow balanced is the best one I have heard for a while fair play.

He is and you can't see it because of your deep rooted biased view of Tan. I can see that Tan has done good and bad. Any sensible and rational person will also see that. Chuckles has even admitted he has done good.

Not at all. If something is custom and practice for a while then it is deemed part of your contract of employment. I find your comments about warnings or sackings distasteful and its a good job we have unions with people like you around. If you also think that Tan is balanced then you are as barking as he is. Do you own a red trenchcoat by any chance?

Tan is seen as a clown by the media.

That's an absurd statement given most media outlets have their own opinions, often opposing opinions, on certain matters. Then you have to factor in that journalists themselves often go against the grain with their opinions as proven in the news lately with different journalists expressing different views on Anonymous.

I am afraid that yours is the absurd statement. READ A FEW DIFFERENT PAPERS BEFORE YOU COMMENT

If giving £1m to local charities makes someone a clown then I'll go on record to say 'I wish we had more clowns in this world'. You can say what you like about Tan but the fact is he give £1m to charities and whether he did that for his own image or for the good of the people is something we'll never truly know but can only speculate on.

Either way, regardless of such speculation, these local charities now have more money to spend and if that £1m goes to providing even one disabled/ill person with a better life or last moments of their life or helps save just one life then it was £1m well spent.

Tan has many negatives but he also has many positives and thats something people need to accept. He is not perfect and I have yet to hear him claim to be perfect but what I am seeing is people picking a side and then using every thing, even if it means twisting it, to bash him or support him. Its not black and white, its a grey area as he's not 100% positive in his actions or 100% negative in his actions. He's balanced pretty much like we all are.

There you go making up stories again. Tan is not a clown for making donations to charity but to do it 2 weeks after he screwed the players out of their full bonuses was ill cest one I have heard for a while fair play.

I would love to see any player argue the case of it being unfair that charities got money but they didnt get paid a non-contractual bonus on top of their 20k a week wage

If giving £1m to local charities makes someone a clown then I'll go on record to say 'I wish we had more clowns in this world'. You can say what you like about Tan but the fact is he give £1m to charities and whether he did that for his own image or for the good of the people is something we'll never truly know but can only speculate on.

Either way, regardless of such speculation, these local charities now have more money to spend and if that £1m goes to providing even one disabled/ill person with a better life or last moments of their life or helps save just one life then it was £1m well spent.

Tan has many negatives but he also has many positives and thats something people need to accept. He is not perfect and I have yet to hear him claim to be perfect but what I am seeing is people picking a side and then using every thing, even if it means twisting it, to bash him or support him. Its not black and white, its a grey area as he's not 100% positive in his actions or 100% negative in his actions. He's balanced pretty much like we all are.

There you go making up stories again. Tan is not a clown for making donations to charity but to do it 2 weeks after he screwed the players out of their full bonuses was ill cest one I have heard for a while fair play.

I would love to see any player argue the case of it being unfair that charities got money but they didnt get paid a non-contractual bonus on top of their 20k a week wage

You have a point there

Not at all. If something is custom and practice for a while then it is deemed part of your contract of employment.

Do you not understand the concept of a contract? If I promise a client something I draw up a contract and I fulfil my contractual obligation. It's done to protect all parties involved in a negotiation. Something that custom has no legal obligation to be done unless of course it can be proven to be a verbal or oral contract which has been breached. That is very difficult to prove in most cases hence why most contracts are drawn/written up and signed by both parties. Guarantees should always be written up so whilst Tan may have went back on his word, legally he hasn't done anything wrong in the slightest.

I find your comments about warnings or sackings distasteful and its a good job we have unions with people like you around.

Not really. A contract is a legal document and if I work and don't have one there's a very high chance I can get shafted by a client who I have provided work for. Therefore, in order to protect myself and them legally a contract will always be put together determining the agreement and what the agreement involves in very particular detail and so on as to avoid confusion.

I suggest you look up contract law before making yourself look more foolish.

If you also think that Tan is balanced then you are as barking as he is. Do you own a red trenchcoat by any chance?

No I don't. I actually want Tan to leave but I also possess the intellect and analysis skills to see that Tan has done both good and bad for the club. A good point in bailing us out and keeping us alive. A bad point being the rebrand. There are plenty more positives and negatives that I won't go into. Of course his negatives for some will cast a larger shadow on the positives. It depends how some people see it.