Gary Neville “It was a big risk that he didn’t need to take”

" DO YOU BLAME DAVID MARSHALL? "


'Naive' keeper David Marshall urged to learn from ball bounce error by Sky pundit Gary Neville

“It was a big risk that he didn’t need to take.”


22nd Oct 2013


After Samuel Eto'o stole the ball off David Marshall to set up team mate Eden Hazard for Chelsea's controversial equaliser on Saturday, there have been countless cries of a foul on the keeper but pundit Gary Neville offers a different view


Cardiff City goalkeeper David Marshall has been told to learn the lessons from Stamford Bridge after being dubbed ‘naive’ for his part in the bouncing ball controversy.

Respected Sky TV pundit Gary Neville says the Bluebirds must not blame referee Anthony Taylor for Chelsea’s controversial equaliser, but take responsibility for what happened themselves.

He insists Marshall must accept he made a mistake and ensure there is no repeat, as Malky Mackay’s Bluebirds seek to retain their Premier League status over the rest of the season.

Marshall was left red-faced after Samuel Eto’o stole the ball off Marshall to tee up Eden Hazard for Chelsea’s opener in their 4-1 triumph.

Bluebirds boss Mackay wasted no time pinning the blame firmly at the door of man in the middle Taylor, stating the rulebook decreed the goal should never have been permitted to stand.

But England coach Neville says that is too simplistic an argument, saying: “I know the law is on Marshall’s side, but forget the law.

“I think he’ll watch it again with Malky Mackay and the manager will be asking ‘Why did you do it?

“The last time I saw a goalkeeper bounce the ball like that was Bruce Grobbelaar.

“I think Marshall panicked a little bit and tried to grab the ball back quickly.

“I’m hoping it’s something that Marshall has learned from because it is naïve.



“What if the ball it hit his foot? What if it hit a divot?

“It was a big risk that he didn’t need to take.”

Totally agree with him.

Still a foul though and the goal should not have stood.

I like Neville, but that's bollocks.

How was it a big risk when the rules are in place?
You may as well say a keeper shouldn't pick the ball up just in case the ref decides to give handball.

It was a major referring blunder. End of.

It certainly was a big reffing blunder as technically, Marshall still had possession of the ball.

However, Neville's right in one way - Marshy won't be doing that again!

There was zero risk, The ref give them a free goal. That's it.

Time wasting tactics,that backfired

Stupid, maybe Marshall should stop running back when taking a goal kick now just incase.

I like Neville, but that's bollocks.

I disagree, what I think he's trying to say is, yes, the rules on the game suggest it was a foul, but misinterpretations happen a lot In football (Marshy handling the ball outside te area for example) so why risk the bounce when there is the potential for that to happen.

I still personally think Marshy had every right to bounce the ball and I still for blame him one bit

I agree with him bet you Marshall doesnt bounce the ball when hes near an opposing player again,think he will have learnt his lesson even though the goal shouldnt have stood

Time wasting tactics,that backfired

If Marshall was time wasting then why didn't let the ball bounce out for a goal kick?

Rules are rules right?

Time wasting tactics,that backfired

Time wasting?

The rules was in Marshalls favour. Neville you are wrong you dumbass

I like Neville, but that's bollocks.

It's spot on, he didn't have to bounce the ball did he.

I like Neville, but that's bollocks.

It's spot on, he didn't have to bounce the ball did he.

No, but he was perfectly entitled to do so.

Post match comments by Marshall suggests he wasn't even aware of the rule so bouncing the ball with Eto so close to him was madness. Neville is correct, even if Marshall had been aware of the rule, the ball could easily have hit is foot or a divot and referees do make the odd mistake now and again

Ffs

So Gary Neville agrees with me too. Its common sense really.

Wonder if all those bumming these pundits soundbites like jesus to his disciples will change their tune now? Apparently Chris Kamara is the daddy of all knowledge however

The rules was in Marshalls favour. Neville you are wrong you dumbass

Hes spot on. Everyone is aware hes allowed to do it (although marshall wasnt apparently).

He didnt have to bounce the ball. By bouncing the ball you are opening yourself up to a number of things that can happen, although chance is small.

1) it hitting your foot or another players foot and losing possession of the ball.
2) fumbling the ball upon its return journey to your hand
3) officials thinking you have dropped it
4) opposition player thinking you have dropped it
5) hitting a divot in the turf and bouncing away from you.

All these are very realistic and am sure have happened at one point or another, and one did against Marshall. So the question remains... Why risk it on what is essentially a needless and pointless action.

Im pretty sure I can bounce a ball and catch it woth revalant ease with out it hitting my foot or bouncing of at least 9 times out of 10 so how is that much of a risk, because the rules state that eto shouldn't of been able to nick the ball, so surely its the refs fault, how you can blame Marshall when he done everything in the rules is beyond me

Im pretty sure I can bounce a ball and catch it woth revalant ease with out it hitting my foot or bouncing of at least 9 times out of 10 so how is that much of a risk, because the rules state that eto shouldn't of been able to nick the ball, so surely its the refs fault, how you can blame Marshall when he done everything in the rules is beyond me

You have answered your own question there. You have just said in every ten times you do it, it will fail once. Basketball players who bounce the ball for a living have it hit their foot accidentally and lose possession often, and that is a completely flat flooring.... however they have no choice, its part of their game.

A lot of people are getting confused with what you are "allowed" to do and what you "should" do. You are allowed to catch the ball and proceed to do a handstand. But you wouldnt and it would be a mistake to do so causing unnecessary risk to posession of the football.

There is no need to bounce it, there is a chamce it could go wrong (and low and behold - it did), hence he shouldnt have done it whether he is allowed to or not is irrelevant.

Im pretty sure I can bounce a ball and catch it woth revalant ease with out it hitting my foot or bouncing of at least 9 times out of 10 so how is that much of a risk, because the rules state that eto shouldn't of been able to nick the ball, so surely its the refs fault, how you can blame Marshall when he done everything in the rules is beyond me

You have answered your own question there. You have just said in every ten times you do it, it will fail once. Basketball players who bounce the ball for a living have it hit their foot accidentally and lose possession often, and that is a completely flat flooring.... however they have no choice, its part of their game.

A lot of people are getting confused with what you are "allowed" to do and what you "should" do. You are allowed to catch the ball and proceed to do a handstand. But you wouldnt and it would be a mistake to do so causing unnecessary risk to posession of the football.

There is no need to bounce it, there is a chamce it could go wrong, hence he shouldnt have done it whether he is allowed to or not is irrelevant.

But how is it Marshalls fault? His bounce didn't leave his control so the ref should be to blame

Fair enough if the bounce went to eto but it didn't, and im pretty sure marshall is confident in bouncing a ball

Im pretty sure I can bounce a ball and catch it woth revalant ease with out it hitting my foot or bouncing of at least 9 times out of 10 so how is that much of a risk, because the rules state that eto shouldn't of been able to nick the ball, so surely its the refs fault, how you can blame Marshall when he done everything in the rules is beyond me

You have answered your own question there. You have just said in every ten times you do it, it will fail once. Basketball players who bounce the ball for a living have it hit their foot accidentally and lose possession often, and that is a completely flat flooring.... however they have no choice, its part of their game.

A lot of people are getting confused with what you are "allowed" to do and what you "should" do. You are allowed to catch the ball and proceed to do a handstand. But you wouldnt and it would be a mistake to do so causing unnecessary risk to posession of the football.

There is no need to bounce it, there is a chamce it could go wrong, hence he shouldnt have done it whether he is allowed to or not is irrelevant.

But how is it Marshalls fault? His bounce didn't leave his control so the ref should be to blame

The refs are to blame.

However if he didnt bounce it then he wouldnt have opened it up for the many things that can go wrong. At the end of the day its a needless act which has many possible negative consequences. One of which is officials determining he dropped it, which is what happened.

Fair enough if the bounce went to eto but it didn't, and im pretty sure marshall is confident in bouncing a ball

It doesnt matter how confident he is. He isnt the only one who affects that play, the officials and opposition can also have an effect on it. He didnt need to do it, why risk it?

Ridiculous statement.

So does that mean players should never tackle in case the ref sends them off by mistake?

GK's should not place the ball down for a goal kick incase the opposition players sprints in and taps it in.

When taking a penalty the GK might just go and pick the ball up so the taker better not have a run up.

Marshall was within the rules. Etoo cheated. End of story.

Ridiculous statement.

So does that mean players should never tackle in case the ref sends them off by mistake?

GK's should not place the ball down for a goal kick incase the opposition players sprints in and taps it in.

When taking a penalty the GK might just go and pick the ball up so the taker better not have a run up.

Marshall was within the rules. Etoo cheated. End of story.

Exactly. Funny how nobody has ever warned a GK before about the "risks" of bouncing the ball and suddenly now the professors of hindsight produce a list of spurious reasons why he shouldn't have done it. Laughable really

Ridiculous statement.

So does that mean players should never tackle in case the ref sends them off by mistake?

no because its a much needed oart of the game. Bouncing the ball isnt.

GK's should not place the ball down for a goal kick incase the opposition players sprints in and taps it in.

again, you need to place the ball down in order to take the kick. You dont need to bounce a ball.

When taking a penalty the GK might just go and pick the ball up so the taker better not have a run up.

thats getting a little silly now. Bouncing a ball is a needless act, your examples are things needed in order to do the footballing related action,

Marshall was within the rules. Etoo cheated. End of story.

irrelevant. He shouldnt have been given the chance to cheat.

Exactly. Funny how nobody has ever warned a GK before about the "risks" of bouncing the ball and suddenly now the professors of hindsight produce a list of spurious reasons why he shouldn't have done it. Laughable really

People didnt start to warn smokers until people started dying.

Common sense however. There are many things that can go wrong, not probable, but still very possible. Why do it when you dont need to?

Its like playing russian roulette with a gun with a capacity for a million bullets and only one is loaded. The chances are you will be fine, but just dont play in the first place if you dont have to.