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If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:35 pm

interesting point, what if we end up owing all this money, we could end up like Rangers,Portsmouth, coventry, but far worse as we would be red,dragon badge and even calleed the dragons, what happens then?

a lot of fans from the past have already had enough, they wont come back as they feel betrayed i might only be young compared to them but how many of todays new fans would stand by a busted up club with no name?

If we end up owing £100m plus?

Not sure if this has been posted, if so apologies. The question is very simple, if we end up owing VT £100M, £200M or £1B at any interest rate he wants to set, how does he actually think we will ever repay the money?

You only have to look at Rangers to see that if it all goes tits up and the club actually ceases to exist, just start a new company (debt free). Even if we were in the conference (in blue) and took 10 years to get back to where we are now it is achieveable.

This may be the last season for CCFC in its present guise/division, but it will never be the last season for league football in Cardiff.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:45 pm

That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:50 pm

ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


With premier league costs too... Not many clubs made a profit last year, despite the "riches". Keep up at the back.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:53 pm

ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


yes some of it has and the rebrand is getting worse is it not?

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:54 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


With premier league costs too... Not many clubs made a profit last year, despite the "riches". Keep up at the back.

Would you rather be back in the championship,i know where I'd prefer to be.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:55 pm

Bluebird 37 wrote:
ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


yes some of it has and the rebrand is getting worse is it not?


is it how ?

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:55 pm

ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


Its quite sad (if true)the lengths some people will go to regurgitate shit.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:00 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


Its quite sad (if true)the lengths some people will go to regurgitate shit.


To true,it was reposted by accident on the other board and he's edited it a bit and reposted on here,very sad.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:14 pm

Who do you think is lending us the money ?

How much do you think our assets are worth ?

Its simple. If he gets bored he losses a lot of money.

His business plan is buy a club for £30 million, resell it as a premier league franchise for a hell of a lot more and add the interest on the loan notes that the new owner must purchase from him.

I mustn't forget. Enjoy the massive publicity this minor South East Asian businessman is receiving from the global football mad world. I never heard of Abromovich before Chelsea, or Shiek Mansur

Only worry about things you can affect... Fretting about Cardiff City's future is pointless- Enjoy the ride.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:17 pm

ACE OF CLUBS wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


With premier league costs too... Not many clubs made a profit last year, despite the "riches". Keep up at the back.

Would you rather be back in the championship,i know where I'd prefer to be.


Totally irrelevant to your point, you claimed that it was fine now as we had premier league riches, but that simply isn't the case.

& yes, I'd rather be back in the championship if it meant keeping our identity, blue and bluebirds - instead of becoming some sort of extension to Malaysia.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Another anti-Tan pipe dream by the looks

It's a completely different scenario to the Portsmouth and Rangers situations. Vincent Tan is into us balls deep and the only way he'll ever get his investment back is when he sells up for a fat profit to even richer benefactors, which will eventually happen

Those praying he's going to hang around for years to take all the Sky money, then hope that we'll disappear back down the leagues and they'll build Ninian Park again, I'm sorry to say that's a forlorn fantasy

:thumbup:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:29 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
ACE OF CLUBS wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
ACE OF CLUBS wrote:That was posted June 2012 on the other board,where in the premier now with all the riches it brings ,keep up at the back.


With premier league costs too... Not many clubs made a profit last year, despite the "riches". Keep up at the back.

Would you rather be back in the championship,i know where I'd prefer to be.


Totally irrelevant to your point, you claimed that it was fine now as we had premier league riches, but that simply isn't the case.

& yes, I'd rather be back in the championship if it meant keeping our identity, blue and bluebirds - instead of becoming some sort of extension to Malaysia.


Minimum £63mill a year tv money is irrelevant,i don't think so. :lol:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:29 pm

Bluebird 37 - are you Sian Branson?

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:09 am

Paulie1927 wrote:Another anti-Tan pipe dream by the looks

It's a completely different scenario to the Portsmouth and Rangers situations. Vincent Tan is into us balls deep and the only way he'll ever get his investment back is when he sells up for a fat profit to even richer benefactors, which will eventually happen

Those praying he's going to hang around for years to take all the Sky money, then hope that we'll disappear back down the leagues and they'll build Ninian Park again, I'm sorry to say that's a forlorn fantasy

:thumbup:

Mo al faheed(dont know if thats correct spelling)had pumped about 250m into fulham in loan notes.-when he decided to retire earlier this year he converted into equity & sold at a tidy profit i believe-my opinion is that tan will do same if good offer comes along.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:13 am

No one cares for Bluebirds Unite anymore. They are on their knees and only a small handful of bitter fans (most of whom still go to games because the premier league lure is too strong so are hypocrites anyway) will support them and attend meetings.

Most fans are happy with the red and love the red and are happy Tan come along, saved us, gave us a nice new red kit that we look dapper in and can move forward in to compete. Deal with it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:50 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:No one cares for Bluebirds Unite anymore. They are on their knees and only a small handful of bitter fans (most of whom still go to games because the premier league lure is too strong so are hypocrites anyway) will support them and attend meetings.

Most fans are happy with the red and love the red and are happy Tan come along, saved us, gave us a nice new red kit that we look dapper in and can move forward in to compete. Deal with it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Many claim that reluctant reds/people wearing red are a minority, which is an absolute lie. The stadium is 3/4 in red every home game. It's just the way football goes in the end I guess.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:52 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:No one cares for Bluebirds Unite anymore. They are on their knees and only a small handful of bitter fans (most of whom still go to games because the premier league lure is too strong so are hypocrites anyway) will support them and attend meetings.

Most fans are happy with the red and love the red and are happy Tan come along, saved us, gave us a nice new red kit that we look dapper in and can move forward in to compete. Deal with it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Most fans love the red? :lol: :lol:
I take it you're taking the piss otherwise.......well :oops:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:58 am

CF14-SE14 wrote:
Most fans love the red? :lol: :lol:
I take it you're taking the piss otherwise.......well :oops:


Red kits everywhere, selling like no tomorrow, the players wear it so the youngsters want to wear the same as the footballers they love, thats just whats happening.

Be in denial all you like. Us realists know whats taking place.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:14 am

CF14-SE14 wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:No one cares for Bluebirds Unite anymore. They are on their knees and only a small handful of bitter fans (most of whom still go to games because the premier league lure is too strong so are hypocrites anyway) will support them and attend meetings.

Most fans are happy with the red and love the red and are happy Tan come along, saved us, gave us a nice new red kit that we look dapper in and can move forward in to compete. Deal with it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Most fans love the red? :lol: :lol:
I take it you're taking the piss otherwise.......well :oops:

Most fans love the red and the team, the red has brought in added investment which has made us more able to reach to the public who were supporting the top four but instead they will visit the CCS now to get their fix of PL football, pay their money to see Cardiff City and hopefully some will start supporting us.
Loads love the red. Brighton home was a perfect example, you didn't have to accept but people did.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:16 am

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Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:21 am

Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:

Cardiff fan wearing a scarf that is the colour of his job shock :roll:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:39 am

TheBluebirdsMovement wrote:
Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:

Cardiff fan wearing a scarf that is the colour of his job shock :roll:


Eh? Is he a santa in the local Asda at xmas time?

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:31 am

If your auntie had bollocks she would be your uncle

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:37 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
CF14-SE14 wrote:
Most fans love the red? :lol: :lol:
I take it you're taking the piss otherwise.......well :oops:


Red kits everywhere, selling like no tomorrow, the players wear it so the youngsters want to wear the same as the footballers they love, thats just whats happening.

Be in denial all you like. Us realists know whats taking place.


Hardly most fans, not from what I've seen and none of my mates would wear that shite.
Maybe most kids, but that ain't there fault, it's their parents :lol:
You may be a realist in your opinion but you're a schizophrenic self attention seeking bellend in mine.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:39 pm

Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:


Thank feck I was banged up for most of last season if that's the sight that would've greeted me down the CCS.
What a bunch of complete cunts, don't care if their Cardiff fans, I have nothing in common with them :evil:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:47 pm

Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:

taken on the night of the free scarf.....if free blue scarfs given out im sure we would be a sea of blue... :ayatollah:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:50 pm

krabb wrote:
Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:

taken on the night of the free scarf.....if free blue scarfs given out im sure we would be a sea of blue... :ayatollah:


Ah okay, makes more sense now. Although I got told at the time that a bunch were thrown in the corner of the pitch and were also seen clogging up the pisser. Not sure how true that is though.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:53 pm

krabb wrote:
Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:

taken on the night of the free scarf.....if free blue scarfs given out im sure we would be a sea of blue... :ayatollah:


Not really the point though lets be fair. If liverpools owner changed them to blue and then handed out free blue scarfs at anfield the stadium would be a sea of red without a blue thread in sight regardless of what freebie was given. You would never have a photo of the kop with fans wearing their new blue with pride like in that photo. Colours mean everything in my book.

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:58 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
krabb wrote:
Blackwoodblue wrote::roll:

taken on the night of the free scarf.....if free blue scarfs given out im sure we would be a sea of blue... :ayatollah:


Not really the point though lets be fair. If liverpools owner changed them to blue and then handed out free blue scarfs at anfield the stadium would be a sea of red without a blue thread in sight regardless of what freebie was given. You would never have a photo of the kop with fans wearing their new blue with pride like in that photo. Colours mean everything in my book.


As much as I almost agree with you, why you feel the need to tell us on a Cardiff forum is beyond me.
Sad jack c**t :roll: :lol:

Re: If we end up owing £100m plus?

Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:05 pm

you sound a barrel of Laughs just enjoy the moment