ANYBODY KNOW THIS IDIOT

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FFS

My son seen that happend. Havnt watched that vid yet but he said the guy grabbed one of the boys with a knife after they seen it in his pocket. He said one of the boys threw him on the floor and everyone started kicking him, the guy got up and chased the boys down the road. Im not sure how true this is or how much he seen.

What a brave man attacking school kids with a knife. What a knobhead.

fair play to the people jumping in and kicking him when he went down.


Cant blame them for legging it when he got back up though

The reason why he went up to the school and went for that boy with a knife was because that boy and his brother keeps beating up that guys brother so much the boy goes home with cracked teeth where they punch him and kick him on the floor also these 2 boys beat someone up in front of a 3 year old girl before so their no angels.

IMO I've watched that video several of times and I honestly think ye he had every intention in pulling that knife out but he had no intention to stab someone and if he did he would of done it he had plenty of time, he just used it to scare them and make them feel how they make his brother feel... Scared! And what I really don't get I'm seeing people calling those boys heroes they far from hereos at all their a pair of bullies

The reason why he went up to the school and went for that boy with a knife was because that boy and his brother keeps beating up that guys brother so much the boy goes home with cracked teeth where they punch him and kick him on the floor also these 2 boys beat someone up in front of a 3 year old girl before so their no angels.

IMO I've watched that video several of times and I honestly think ye he had every intention in pulling that knife out but he had no intention to stab someone and if he did he would of done it he had plenty of time, he just used it to scare them and make them feel how they make his brother feel... Scared! And what I really don't get I'm seeing people calling those boys heroes they far from hereos at all their a pair of bullies

Of course mate ,there are always 2 sides to every story. But as an outsider like myself who can only watch the video , it looks pretty bad for the lad with knife.

Spoken to someone who knows the full story and one of the 'lads' involved thinks he's a hard 'man'. Local bullies who are now saying 'he shouldn't pull a knife out on kids'.

Unfortunately it happened near a school but the people involved are not pupils, they are 17 year old chopsy little youths.

I totally agree 100% that the knife was bang out of order but if you want to play the big hard man and play big boy games, sometimes things wont go to plan.

The reason why he went up to the school and went for that boy with a knife was because that boy and his brother keeps beating up that guys brother so much the boy goes home with cracked teeth where they punch him and kick him on the floor also these 2 boys beat someone up in front of a 3 year old girl before so their no angels.

IMO I've watched that video several of times and I honestly think ye he had every intention in pulling that knife out but he had no intention to stab someone and if he did he would of done it he had plenty of time, he just used it to scare them and make them feel how they make his brother feel... Scared! And what I really don't get I'm seeing people calling those boys heroes they far from hereos at all their a pair of bullies

Of course mate ,there are always 2 sides to every story. But as an outsider like myself who can only watch the video , it looks pretty bad for the lad with knife.

Indeed. Up a school with a knife, hes doing time.

The reason why he went up to the school and went for that boy with a knife was because that boy and his brother keeps beating up that guys brother so much the boy goes home with cracked teeth where they punch him and kick him on the floor also these 2 boys beat someone up in front of a 3 year old girl before so their no angels.

IMO I've watched that video several of times and I honestly think ye he had every intention in pulling that knife out but he had no intention to stab someone and if he did he would of done it he had plenty of time, he just used it to scare them and make them feel how they make his brother feel... Scared! And what I really don't get I'm seeing people calling those boys heroes they far from hereos at all their a pair of bullies

Of course mate ,there are always 2 sides to every story. But as an outsider like myself who can only watch the video , it looks pretty bad for the lad with knife.

Indeed. Up a school with a knife, hes doing time.

Deserves to do time 100% for carrying a blade but allegedly, he only went to 'the school' cos the other people involved were hanging around there, NOT because they were pupils.

The other people involved are still picking on pupils despite no longer being in school.

No need to use a knife just giv the fukas a good slap & tickle

Agree 100% and I honestly think that was his intention.

I think if this had happened away from the school everyone's attitude would be different. Just a bloke then looking for two local bullies who keep beating his brother up TOGETHER

The reason why he went up to the school and went for that boy with a knife was because that boy and his brother keeps beating up that guys brother so much the boy goes home with cracked teeth where they punch him and kick him on the floor also these 2 boys beat someone up in front of a 3 year old girl before so their no angels.

IMO I've watched that video several of times and I honestly think ye he had every intention in pulling that knife out but he had no intention to stab someone and if he did he would of done it he had plenty of time, he just used it to scare them and make them feel how they make his brother feel... Scared! And what I really don't get I'm seeing people calling those boys heroes they far from hereos at all their a pair of bullies

Well said..
I have been told the ginger guy is harmless just fed up and that the main two are not even in school but bully the guys brother on the way home and other times if that's true well done to him..
If someone hurt one of my kids on a regular basis like his brother has apparentley been i'd set them alight..
To many wankers think they can do stuff and get away with it but then play the victim when they eventually get what they deserve.

Deserves to do time 100% for carrying a blade but allegedly, he only went to 'the school' cos the other people involved were hanging around there, NOT because they were pupils.

The other people involved are still picking on pupils despite no longer being in school.

You still cannot go about carrrying a blade. The courts wont buy "It was only to scare them" thats for sure.

Polo you know me mate (we spoke in Tesco in MT the other week)

I know first hand the story and those lads involved have been bullies for a long time. They're still hanging around the school picking on kids cos they're not big enough to do it to anyone else one to one.

If this hadn't happened near a school nobody would be giving it brain time. The 'poor victims' are now saying he shouldn't have done that to kids' which I agree with but if he'd battered the two of them what would be said then.

Blades are a no go as far as I'm concerned and the guy has made a bad mistake doing what he did but the police know these 'kids' and have not acted on complaints made so what's the guy to do

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They won't care if it was to scare them. They will say he should have informed the school and police and got the matter resolved that way. He will most likely do time.

Polo you know me mate (we spoke in Tesco in MT the other week)

I know first hand the story and those lads involved have been bullies for a long time. They're still hanging around the school picking on kids cos they're not big enough to do it to anyone else one to one.

If this hadn't happened near a school nobody would be giving it brain time. The 'poor victims' are now saying he shouldn't have done that to kids' which I agree with but if he'd battered the two of them what would be said then.

Blades are a no go as far as I'm concerned and the guy has made a bad mistake doing what he did but the police know these 'kids' and have not acted on complaints made so what's the guy to do

what he should have done is not what he did. Get a mate or two and give them a shoeing or something, dont pull a knife outside a school!

Actually, dont pull a knife anywhere

Polo you know me mate (we spoke in Tesco in MT the other week)

I know first hand the story and those lads involved have been bullies for a long time. They're still hanging around the school picking on kids cos they're not big enough to do it to anyone else one to one.

If this hadn't happened near a school nobody would be giving it brain time. The 'poor victims' are now saying he shouldn't have done that to kids' which I agree with but if he'd battered the two of them what would be said then.

Blades are a no go as far as I'm concerned and the guy has made a bad mistake doing what he did but the police know these 'kids' and have not acted on complaints made so what's the guy to do

Hello mate, didnt realise it was you

Sounds like the guy should have been a bit cleverer and should of got to these bullies out of the public eye, and CCTV.

I think he'll do time too and agree that carrying a blade deserves a custodial sentence...........but consider this

The incidents leading up to this have allegedly been reported to the school and the police. The school are powerless to act on incidents outside the perimeter of the grounds.

You have to ask why 'youths' involved in incidents like this are hanging around 'outside' school gates looking for victims

I feel sorry for the guy that it's come to the point where he's felt that he had to carry a blade and deal with things himself but you have to ask yourself why before hanging him

I think he'll do time too and agree that carrying a blade deserves a custodial sentence...........but consider this

The incidents leading up to this have allegedly been reported to the school and the police. The school are powerless to act on incidents outside the perimeter of the grounds.

You have to ask why 'youths' involved in incidents like this are hanging around 'outside' school gates looking for victims

I feel sorry for the guy that it's come to the point where he's felt that he had to carry a blade and deal with things himself but you have to ask yourself why before hanging him

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Totally agree he deserves to do time and to be honest fair play to him for looking after his own but he shouldn't of done it with a knife I would of had someone to do them over on a dark night when they walking home cause people like them boys needs to be brought down a peg and realise they ain't all that

They won't care if it was to scare them. They will say he should have informed the school and police and got the matter resolved that way. He will most likely do time.

Indeed

Prosecutors should recognize that carrying an offensive weapon, or a knife, or a bladed/pointed article is a serious offence. The unlawful provision and possession of all weapons encourages violence and can cause serious injury and death in addition to facilitating other criminal offenses. These include the following:

a conviction is likely to result in a significant sentence;
a weapon was used or violence threatened during the commission of another offence;
the offence is widespread in the area where it was committed;
the offender was a ringleader;
evidence that the offence was premeditated;
there are grounds for believing the offence is likely to be repeated;
prosecution would have a significant positive impact on maintaining community confidence; or
a culture of carrying weapons encourages violence and may lead to more serious criminal behaviour.

Depending on the facts, there may also be other important public interest factors supporting prosecution, for example, that the offence was committed in a hospital or public house, or that the defendant was motivated by hostility to another individual or group.

Mode of Trial

There are no mode of trial guidelines for the either way offences involving knives and weapons, but trial on indictment should be recommended where the magistrates sentencing powers are inadequate because of the presence of one or more aggravating features including:

the defendant was in possession of more than one weapon;
the weapon was used or produced whilst committing another offence;
serious injury was intended or caused;
the offence was a "hate crime";
the location of the offence;
the weapon was recovered in connection with drug dealing, gang association or any other organised criminal activity.

Prosecutors are reminded that where a weapon is used in dangerous circumstance to threaten, or cause fear, the Sentencing Guidelines Council recommends that the starting point for a first time adult offender would be a custodial sentence of 6 months if he pleads not guilty, but was subsequently found guilty by the courts. (Please see the guidance below.)

Offensive Weapons

In relation to an adult offender of previous good character, the custody threshold will almost invariably be passed where he is convicted of having an offensive weapon and there is a combination of dangerous circumstances and actual use of the weapon to threaten or cause fear. (Archbold 24-109.)

A sentence at or near the statutory maximum of 4 years is appropriate where the offender:

has previous convictions for violence or carrying weapons;
is convicted of carrying a particularly dangerous weapon;
has a clear intention to cause fear or injury; and
in circumstances involving any of the aggravating factors set out below. (Archbold 24-109.)

Aggravating factors are:

specifically planned use of the weapon to commit violence or threaten violence or intimidate others;
hostility towards a minority group or individual or group, which may give rise to an aggravating feature, such as racial motivation within the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, sec 28; and
acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

A community sentence toward the top end of the range may be appropriate where there are no aggravating features, no threat has been made and the weapon is not particularly dangerous.

I won't name anyone as thats not my style but the one lad is known to be a right tw*t and a local bully and he and a few of his mates beat someone up Sunday night so don't be fooled into thinking they're angels.

So tough they hang around outside schools in the week picking on kids

I'm a firm believer of what goes around comes around

Hope they get what's coming to them although it shouldn't involve knives

I can't comment on this case but youngsters these days casually talk about knifing people on thetrain all the time , not just the odd group but i hear loads on the train. Not all kids, but those likely to bully often bouncing around likethey're on rap video will bring knives into it. The sort of shit you hear isenough to,make you start tooling up for the train journey to and from work just incase it comes a tumble from a few of them school bullies on a -hype-ting ya get me blud?

I can't comment on this case but youngsters these days casually talk about knifing people on thetrain all the time , not just the odd group but i hear loads on the train. Not all kids, but those likely to bully often bouncing around likethey're on rap video will bring knives into it. The sort of shit you hear isenough to,make you start tooling up for the train journey to and from work just incase it comes a tumble from a few of them school bullies on a -hype-ting ya get me blud?

You been wathching too much Top Boy fam ! . I think in wales our youth in general are ok comparing to the streets in London like Brixton, hackney, peckham and places.

they was shouting hit him ana before the bloke got the knife out, stupid to carry one but I can understand the frustration, always get chopsy pricks in gangs always mouth of at people for no reason, the amount of times ive been tempted to give a few a slap but just laugh it off, should of just dropped the nut on the boys not pull a knife

I can't comment on this case but youngsters these days casually talk about knifing people on thetrain all the time , not just the odd group but i hear loads on the train. Not all kids, but those likely to bully often bouncing around likethey're on rap video will bring knives into it. The sort of shit you hear isenough to,make you start tooling up for the train journey to and from work just incase it comes a tumble from a few of them school bullies on a -hype-ting ya get me blud?

You been wathching too much Top Boy fam ! . I think in wales our youth in general are ok comparing to the streets in London like Brixton, hackney, peckham and places.

Need to Get on dat -butetown carriage blad, da mandem educate your rars clart.

I can't comment on this case but youngsters these days casually talk about knifing people on thetrain all the time , not just the odd group but i hear loads on the train. Not all kids, but those likely to bully often bouncing around likethey're on rap video will bring knives into it. The sort of shit you hear isenough to,make you start tooling up for the train journey to and from work just incase it comes a tumble from a few of them school bullies on a -hype-ting ya get me blud?

You been wathching too much Top Boy fam ! . I think in wales our youth in general are ok comparing to the streets in London like Brixton, hackney, peckham and places.

Great sterotyping

Brixton is cosmopololitan as f**k these days, my sister works there, and lives just outside., I was there just a few weeks ago and trust me, the streets of Brixton are far safer than some places in Merthyr I could name.