About time that the UK 'Ban the Vail'

Jeremy Browne: Ban Muslim women from wearing veils in schools and public places
Britain should consider banning Muslim girls and young women from wearing veils in schools and public places, a Home Office minister has said.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... laces.html

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Veil. And Yes.

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

I have skiid there several times.

Great hill.

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

it,s cultural not part of their faith.im prob in the camp that they can wear it in certain places.places like schools,supermarkets,airports etc a big no from me

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

it,s cultural not part of their faith.im prob in the camp that they can wear it in certain places.places like schools,supermarkets,airports etc a big no from me

Why? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
Religion aside, why cant people put aside their personal issues of difference to let people do what will make them happy?

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

it,s cultural not part of their faith.im prob in the camp that they can wear it in certain places.places like schools,supermarkets,airports etc a big no from me

Why? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
Religion aside, why cant people put aside their personal issues of difference to let people do what will make them happy?

no baloo,not at all.the places mentioned would be for security reasons.i understand the reason behind why they wear it.it,s to do with modesty.no problem there whatsoever.what i believe if the rest of the brits have to show their faces in these places then so should the muslim women.as for walking down a street then im ok with them wearing it.barring security reasons it,s very hard to stop any one doing anything peaceful that doesnt cause harm to other folk.a path filled with danger too.i certainly believe in the right of a goth lad or emo as they are called these days to wonder down the street with eye liner on and his hair all over the place.i would be aghast if one of these fellows got attacked for not fitting into the mainstream dress code so i,d be equally cheesed off if some clown ripped a womens veil off.my faith tells me to love all.

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

it,s cultural not part of their faith.im prob in the camp that they can wear it in certain places.places like schools,supermarkets,airports etc a big no from me

Why? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
Religion aside, why cant people put aside their personal issues of difference to let people do what will make them happy?

no baloo,not at all.the places mentioned would be for security reasons.i understand the reason behind why they wear it.it,s to do with modesty.no problem there whatsoever.what i believe if the rest of the brits have to show their faces in these places then so should the muslim women.as for walking down a street then im ok with them wearing it.barring security reasons it,s very hard to stop any one doing anything peaceful that doesnt cause harm to other folk.a path filled with danger too.i certainly believe in the right of a goth lad or emo as they are called these days to wonder down the street with eye liner on and his hair all over the place.i would be aghast if one of these fellows got attacked for not fitting into the mainstream dress code so i,d be equally cheesed off if some clown ripped a womens veil off.my faith tells me to love all.

To be fair, your response is nicer to read than a lot of the extreme crap people come out with on here. But in light of the whole security vs liberty debates we have now I.e. bradley manning etc I think this applies to this situation. Ok, while it may not be fair on paper that a chav has to take his hood down in a shop but a veil can still be worn. But from the point of view of the supermarket, it is the kid who causes the security issue and thats a fact. Also why would a woman whose face isnt being shown cause more of a terrorist threat? And as a matter of fact, how many women are involved in terrorism?
The whole argument is based on;
1) typical view of the white british population wanting their own way
2) people feeling uncomfortable when there is really nothing to be uncomfortable about

Now jtc im not suggesting that you fall into these categories. Your head seems screwed on.
And btw I am white british

They f*cking do what they want here.
Tjey slag us off and preach hate towards us, and if u confront them they pull the racist card out.
If they live here they should respect the laws and in public our culture.
What they do in there homes and places of worship is there right ! But not in our faces, as its a total piss take.
Walking to one of there shops with a mask or a balaclava and they will soon f*cking complain.
This is the uk, we are not a muslim country so why the f**k do they do what they please.
To many do good knob heads in this country saying they should do what they want and cant deport them as its against human rights.
If they dont like it here or preach hate them f**k them of and stop scrounging of os.
And if the do good knob heads dont like it f**k them off allso and see how they get on in these backward muslim countrys.

How does banning the veil benefit you?

How does banning the veil benefit you?

He has a truck full of lipstick that he can't shift.

I think the veil should be compulsary for men and optional for women.

How does banning the veil benefit you?

He has a truck full of lipstick that he can't shift.

There's a few munters round my way who should be forced to wear one

From what I know, Vails, burka, hijab and other female muslim headwear are NOT a religious thing but a Cultural one, therefore If i go on holiday to a Muslim country, I would expect to see women with faces partly or fully covered and fully respect their right to wear it.

Here in Great Britain, I think we should Ban the wearing of the full face Burka, Hijab - basically anything that covers the full face should be unacceptable although the Headscarf or veil would be acceptable.

Firstly, there is the security aspect of it - I,m damn sure if I walked around the streets with a full balaclava on my head I would not only be looked on as a dubious character but probably be arrested. If I walked into a bank with something covering my face, I would be told to remove it.

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In schools how can a teacher communicate with children properly when the children cannot see teachers facial expressions when reading a story or any form of human relations contact ?

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In a court of law, how can a judge and jury make a decision/conclusion without seeing the persons facial expressions to charges and their general attitude ?

A lot Muslims get accused of "not integrating" with our BRITISH society - Whilst other Muslims seem to just get on with life in the UK like all of us who live here and abide by British way of life.

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They f*cking do what they want here.
Tjey slag us off and preach hate towards us, and if u confront them they pull the racist card out.
If they live here they should respect the laws and in public our culture.
What they do in there homes and places of worship is there right ! But not in our faces, as its a total piss take.
Walking to one of there shops with a mask or a balaclava and they will soon f*cking complain.
This is the uk, we are not a muslim country so why the f**k do they do what they please.
To many do good knob heads in this country saying they should do what they want and cant deport them as its against human rights.
If they dont like it here or preach hate them f**k them of and stop scrounging of os.
And if the do good knob heads dont like it f**k them off allso and see how they get on in these backward muslim countrys.

Oh f**k off!

There is a minority who pull the racism card,

And we are a multi faith country

If you don't like it, go live somewhere else you prick

They f*cking do what they want here.
Tjey slag us off and preach hate towards us, and if u confront them they pull the racist card out.
If they live here they should respect the laws and in public our culture.
What they do in there homes and places of worship is there right ! But not in our faces, as its a total piss take.
Walking to one of there shops with a mask or a balaclava and they will soon f*cking complain.
This is the uk, we are not a muslim country so why the f**k do they do what they please.
To many do good knob heads in this country saying they should do what they want and cant deport them as its against human rights.
If they dont like it here or preach hate them f**k them of and stop scrounging of os.
And if the do good knob heads dont like it f**k them off allso and see how they get on in these backward muslim countrys.

Spoken like a true jack

I'd rather live in a cul de sac of Al Qaeda, then next door to an embarrassing mess like you

In my opinion it should be banned in certain places its a security risk and it separates them from society and causes a divide in the community. No doubt the loony left will label this post as Racist or accuse me of bigotry

They f*cking do what they want here.
Tjey slag us off and preach hate towards us, and if u confront them they pull the racist card out.
If they live here they should respect the laws and in public our culture.
What they do in there homes and places of worship is there right ! But not in our faces, as its a total piss take.
Walking to one of there shops with a mask or a balaclava and they will soon f*cking complain.
This is the uk, we are not a muslim country so why the f**k do they do what they please.
To many do good knob heads in this country saying they should do what they want and cant deport them as its against human rights.
If they dont like it here or preach hate them f**k them of and stop scrounging of os.
And if the do good knob heads dont like it f**k them off allso and see how they get on in these backward muslim countrys.

Fair points made. I haven't anything to add to this thread.

In my opinion it should be banned in certain places its a security risk and it separates them from society and causes a divide in the community. No doubt the loony left will label this post as Racist or accuse me of bigotry

Not at all, these people do need to integrate into our society to a point, taken to another room to reveal their faces ect. If there may be a security risk
But we should also respect their beliefs too and let them wear what they want

Definately not in a court of law or maybe even school. can you imagine a witness giving evidence against you for a crime you didn't commit, You and the jury can't even see their face. Yet some lefties are arguing for this .......

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

it,s cultural not part of their faith,im prob in the camp that they can wear it in certain places.places like schools,supermarkets,airports etc a big no from me

Why? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
Religion aside, why cant people put aside their personal issues of difference to let people do what will make them happy?

Because they look sinister, they scare people looking like they do my Grankids really are scared, how can anyone go into a store and shop looking out through a letterbox. I am not aloud top go into a garage, Post office, Bank. Chemists, in fact most stores with my full face helmet on because Im a biker which is my chosen way of life. As for the one in court if you don't want to show the Judge yourself . FIND SOME COUNTRY THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO WEAR A LETTERBOX.

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No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

but it does have a lot to do with their religion

the level of covering is cultural

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... ab_1.shtml

/debate.

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... ab_1.shtml

/debate.

The Burqa is cultural though, and not a religious item

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... ab_1.shtml

/debate.

The Burqa is cultural though, and not a religious item

that all depends on who you talk to

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... ab_1.shtml

/debate.

The Burqa is cultural though, and not a religious item

So is my full face crash helmet

No they shouldn't. Its their religion. They should be able to carry out the actions of their faith if they wish.

NO ITS NOT ANYTHING TO RELIGION

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... ab_1.shtml

/debate.

The Burqa is cultural though, and not a religious item

So is my full face crash helmet