WFA should have appointed Raymond Verheijen

I don't blame him if he is having a drink with a smile on his face tonight after watching the third rate coaching team breaking up all his teams good work.

As Polo mentions every now and then I was arguing with Jason Mohammed and Steve Tucker on the radio because Dutch Ray should have been given the job yet Coleman was the man from within the media/past players own agenda.

COLEMAN MUST GO!!!!!!

I don't blame him if he is having a drink with a smile on his face tonight after watching the third rate coaching team breaking up all his teams good work.

As Polo mentions every now and then I was arguing with Jason Mohammed and Steve Tucker on the radio because Dutch Ray should have been given the job yet Coleman was the man from within the media/past players own agenda.

COLEMAN MUST GO!!!!!!

The Faw has been rotten for years . Waste of space all of them

I don't blame him if he is having a drink with a smile on his face tonight after watching the third rate coaching team breaking up all his teams good work.

As Polo mentions every now and then I was arguing with Jason Mohammed and Steve Tucker on the radio because Dutch Ray should have been given the job yet Coleman was the man from within the media/past players own agenda.

COLEMAN MUST GO!!!!!!

The Faw has been rotten for years . Waste of space all of them

The way the likes of the media and past players like Roberts,Hartson ganged up on Verheijen just to help get Coleman (who was the bookies 2nd favourite at the time) was a disgrace. Even the players spoke out because they wanted Dutch Ray yet the WFA took no notice whatsoever!!!

Don't think he is a manager but should have stayed involved.

Like Bellamy said, he is very hard work but worth it.

Agree Military Junta, with the sad passing away of Speed, the most vociferous mob against Dutch Ray's appointment were that oaf Hartson & that tall piece of shit Iwan Roberts & other members of the so called Welsh language sports media who put their own selfish interests & have a poor Welsh national team rather than one that is successful.

This website is full of Welsh football journalists masquerading as football fans

http://apostlewelshfootie.proboards.com/board/1

Agree Military Junta, with the sad passing away of Speed, the most vociferous mob against Dutch Ray's appointment were that oaf Hartson & that tall piece of shit Iwan Roberts & other members of the so called Welsh language sports media who put their own selfish interests & have a poor Welsh national team rather than one that is successful.

This website is full of Welsh football journalists masquerading as football fans

http://apostlewelshfootie.proboards.com/board/1

Absolutely

Verheijen is a fitness coach not a manager. The FAW wanted to keep him on but HE walked.

Does he even have a job now? The guy is a fruit loop.

I don't blame him if he is having a drink with a smile on his face tonight after watching the third rate coaching team breaking up all his teams good work.

As Polo mentions every now and then I was arguing with Jason Mohammed and Steve Tucker on the radio because Dutch Ray should have been given the job yet Coleman was the man from within the media/past players own agenda.

COLEMAN MUST GO!!!!!!

It's not the 'WFA', it's the 'FAW'.

Verheijen is a fitness coach not a manager. The FAW wanted to keep him on but HE walked.

Does he even have a job now? The guy is a fruit loop.

and Morinho was a PE teacher and an interpreter but he made a difference when he become a manager. The botttom line is that is you work with the best then you can learn from the best and Verheijen certainly worked with the best and remember the players themselves were prepared to go on strike if he wasn't given the job!!!

Verheijen is a fitness coach not a manager. The FAW wanted to keep him on but HE walked.

Does he even have a job now? The guy is a fruit loop.

I'm sure Bob Paisley was a Physio and Mourniho was an interpreter? Raymond comes across pretty intelligent and forward thinking. He is worth a go seen as the only other option is Pulis. What have we got to lose exactly?

Tottenham star Bale said it would be "absolutely ridiculous" to make significant management changes.

He added: "I know personally most of the players want to keep it the same'

YET WHAT DID THEY DO!!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16373747

Verheijen is a fitness coach not a manager. The FAW wanted to keep him on but HE walked.

Does he even have a job now? The guy is a fruit loop.

I'm sure Bob Paisley was a Physio and Mourniho was an interpreter? Raymond comes across pretty intelligent and forward thinking. He is worth a go seen as the only other option is Pulis. What have we got to lose exactly?

So is every other physio in world football, they dont get international managerial jobs because they are outspoken on social media. Raymond is an absolute moron. Claims he is a doctor but he isnt, lied to the welsh FA about his CV saying he had assistant managerial experience and is an absolute basketcase airing everything in twitter, which was a vessell he used disgracefully to try and get the job in the wake of speeds death.

If he was such a genius then how come nobody is interested in him. Hes a liar, a fraud and a charlatton with disgraceful human approach.

http://ffwtbol.co.uk/2011/06/03/would-t ... -stand-up/

Verheijen is a fitness coach not a manager. The FAW wanted to keep him on but HE walked.

Does he even have a job now? The guy is a fruit loop.

I'm sure Bob Paisley was a Physio and Mourniho was an interpreter? Raymond comes across pretty intelligent and forward thinking. He is worth a go seen as the only other option is Pulis. What have we got to lose exactly?

So is every other physio in world football, they dont get international managerial jobs because they are outspoken on social media. Raymond is an absolute moron. Claims he is a doctor but he isnt, lied to the welsh FA about his CV saying he had assistant managerial experience and is an absolute basketcase airing everything in twitter, which was a vessell he used disgracefully to try and get the job in the wake of speeds death.

If he was such a genius then how come nobody is interested in him. Hes a liar, a fraud and a charlatton with disgraceful human approach.

http://ffwtbol.co.uk/2011/06/03/would-t ... -stand-up/

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Don't agree with the OP.

I think Raymond was hugely egotistical and very distasteful following Gary Speed's passing. He came out far too soon after Gary passed touting himself for the job that left a sour taste in the mouth.

With his attitude he would mess up a lot of relationships around the Wales camp.

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

Verheijen is a fitness coach not a manager. The FAW wanted to keep him on but HE walked.

Does he even have a job now? The guy is a fruit loop.

I'm sure Bob Paisley was a Physio and Mourniho was an interpreter? Raymond comes across pretty intelligent and forward thinking. He is worth a go seen as the only other option is Pulis. What have we got to lose exactly?

So is every other physio in world football, they dont get international managerial jobs because they are outspoken on social media. Raymond is an absolute moron. Claims he is a doctor but he isnt, lied to the welsh FA about his CV saying he had assistant managerial experience and is an absolute basketcase airing everything in twitter, which was a vessell he used disgracefully to try and get the job in the wake of speeds death.

If he was such a genius then how come nobody is interested in him. Hes a liar, a fraud and a charlatton with disgraceful human approach.

http://ffwtbol.co.uk/2011/06/03/would-t ... -stand-up/

Ah right, so what about the card Coleman was showing throughout the selection period that he was best-friends with Speed for over 30 years..?

Don't agree with the OP.

I think Raymond was hugely egotistical and very distasteful following Gary Speed's passing. He came out far too soon after Gary passed touting himself for the job that left a sour taste in the mouth.

With his attitude he would mess up a lot of relationships around the Wales camp.

Well the plaers clearly wanted him and said it publicly so there seems to have been a far stronger relationship between the group than it is now.

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Don't agree with the OP.

I think Raymond was hugely egotistical and very distasteful following Gary Speed's passing. He came out far too soon after Gary passed touting himself for the job that left a sour taste in the mouth.

With his attitude he would mess up a lot of relationships around the Wales camp.

Exactly, but some people are still blindly spouting nonsense about how perfect he's have been. No doubt these people would have been the first to call for his head(had he been appointed) when the team inevitably underachieved again.

Haven't done much has he:

Verheijen has been a member of the coaching staff of the national teams of the Netherlands, Russia and South Korea, attending three World Cups and three European Championships.[2] He has also worked with a number of European club sides, including Barcelona of Spain, Zenit Saint Petersburg of Russia, and English teams Chelsea F.C and Manchester City.[2] He has also been a personal fitness coach to Craig Bellamy.[3

and he wasn't wrong here was he:

In December 2012 he criticised the FAW, stating that they had "destroyed" the "legacy" of Gary Speed.[16]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Verheijen

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Haven't done much has he:

Verheijen has been a member of the coaching staff of the national teams of the Netherlands, Russia and South Korea, attending three World Cups and three European Championships.[2] He has also worked with a number of European club sides, including Barcelona of Spain, Zenit Saint Petersburg of Russia, and English teams Chelsea F.C and Manchester City.[2] He has also been a personal fitness coach to Craig Bellamy.[3

and he wasn't wrong here was he:

In December 2012 he criticised the FAW, stating that they had "destroyed" the "legacy" of Gary Speed.[16]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Verheijen

What part of he's a fitness coach and not in the remotest bit qualified to manage a pub team, let alone an international team is hard for you to grasp?

This is a better read actually: http://www.worldfootballacademy.co.uk/a ... verheijen/

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Surely leaning from the likes of Dick Advocaat and Guus Hiddink is very similar.

There are many examples of people going into football management without much 'old skool' background. You can even put Wenger into that bracket

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Surely leaning from the likes of Dick Advocaat and Guus Hiddink is very similar.

There are many examples of people going into football management without much 'old skool' background. You can even put Wenger into that bracket

So why verhaijen? Why not wrexhams physio? You never know, mourinho and all that. Its a stupid opinion based on absolutely nothing, he isnt even qualified for heavens sake. He wasnt assistant manager to hiddink or advocaat was he, he was a fitness coach to the players.

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Surely leaning from the likes of Dick Advocaat and Guus Hiddink is very similar.

There are many examples of people going into football management without much 'old skool' background. You can even put Wenger into that bracket

So why verhaijen? Why not wrexhams physio? You never know, mourinho and all that. Its a stupid opinion based on absolutely nothing, he isnt even qualified for heavens sake. He wasnt assistant manager to hiddink or advocaat was he, he was a fitness coach to the players.

How about because the players wanted him...? as if you believe the stories it was actually his coaching rather than Speeds management which benefited the team at that time.

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Surely leaning from the likes of Dick Advocaat and Guus Hiddink is very similar.

There are many examples of people going into football management without much 'old skool' background. You can even put Wenger into that bracket

So why verhaijen? Why not wrexhams physio? You never know, mourinho and all that. Its a stupid opinion based on absolutely nothing, he isnt even qualified for heavens sake. He wasnt assistant manager to hiddink or advocaat was he, he was a fitness coach to the players.

How about because the players wanted him...? as if you believe the stories it was actually his coaching rather than Speeds management which benefited the team at that time.

Please provide one link to these stories. Just one link from the whole of the world wide web that says it was his coaching rather than Speeds management. One link.

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Surely leaning from the likes of Dick Advocaat and Guus Hiddink is very similar.

There are many examples of people going into football management without much 'old skool' background. You can even put Wenger into that bracket

So why verhaijen? Why not wrexhams physio? You never know, mourinho and all that. Its a stupid opinion based on absolutely nothing, he isnt even qualified for heavens sake. He wasnt assistant manager to hiddink or advocaat was he, he was a fitness coach to the players.

How about because the players wanted him...? as if you believe the stories it was actually his coaching rather than Speeds management which benefited the team at that time.[/quote]

Please provide one link to these stories. Just one link from the whole of the world wide web that says it was his coaching rather than Speeds management. One link.[/quote]

Sorry maybe I should have said 'rumours'.

Lets be honest if Gary Speed was such a good manager why didn't he do well at Sheffield Utd..? The bottom line is that people like to think it was Speed all alone but it was the whole team off the field which improved the team.

How about because the players wanted him...? as if you believe the stories it was actually his coaching rather than Speeds management which benefited the team at that time.

What rubbish. There are no stories, just ones you made up now.

The players said they wanted "to keep it the same" someone who understands what they are doing and how they are playing (dutch ray being the opportunist he is jumped all over this, even disgustingly suggesting his appointment was "garys wish"). Coleman comes under this bracket of "keeping it the same" too being an avid follower of Wales and an ex player. He tried to keep it the same, he said ts in interviews. This trying to keep it the same lead us to a string of defeats including a 6-1 defeat in which he then said "its time to do it my own way" which resukts have now drastically improved.

The bottom line however, is its still not good enough. But there is nobody else, and certainly not durch bonkers ray that nobody will touch with a barge pole.... Apart from you of course.

Verheijen is barely qualified to manage Weston Super-Mare let alone Wales.

and Morinho was very qualified at the begining of his management career wasn't he

Mourinho learned from Bobby Robson and was an assistant coach before started managing teams.

Not to mention, he's Jose Mourinho, a one of a kind brilliant manager. Just because Mourinho made the transition, it doesn't mean that Verheijen would be anywhere near as successful.

Surely leaning from the likes of Dick Advocaat and Guus Hiddink is very similar.

There are many examples of people going into football management without much 'old skool' background. You can even put Wenger into that bracket

So why verhaijen? Why not wrexhams physio? You never know, mourinho and all that. Its a stupid opinion based on absolutely nothing, he isnt even qualified for heavens sake. He wasnt assistant manager to hiddink or advocaat was he, he was a fitness coach to the players.

How about because the players wanted him...? as if you believe the stories it was actually his coaching rather than Speeds management which benefited the team at that time.

Please provide one link to these stories. Just one link from the whole of the world wide web that says it was his coaching rather than Speeds management. One link.[/quote]

Sorry maybe I should have said 'rumours'.

Lets be honest if Gary Speed was such a good manager why didn't he do well at Sheffield Utd..? The bottom line is that people like to think it was Speed all alone but it was the whole team off the field which improved the team.[/quote]

So you can't then.

Maybe you should stick to "look at me look at me I have cscs posts to fill which could be done far more efficiently elsewhere instead of on here" rather than getting involved in football issues that are beyond your understanding.