Too stubborn over jeff?

Is malky being too stubborn regarding jeff? If it means sorting the agent out with a bit of extra money to SEAL the deal I think it's worth it as we would be getting a quality player.
If what we have read is true and malky has walked away because he's sticking to his guns, I think that's poor by malky cos we will end up missing out on a quality player because of stubborn ways. Can't always get your own way just SEAL the deal malky.

Do it once and we'll have every fking agent moving the goal posts!

Do it once and we'll have every fking agent moving the goal posts!

Exactly, By letting his agent walk all over us it will allow future agents to get as much money as possible from
us. Well played by Malky

Worst thing that could happen is everyone knowing that Cardiff are an easy touch. As soon as you do it for one then you are fucked....every agent will then try it

Is malky being too stubborn regarding jeff? If it means sorting the agent out with a bit of extra money to SEAL the deal I think it's worth it as we would be getting a quality player.
If what we have read is true and malky has walked away because he's sticking to his guns, I think that's poor by malky cos we will end up missing out on a quality player because of stubborn ways. Can't always get your own way just SEAL the deal malky.

Couldn't disagree anymore if I tried.

Fair point lads, suppose there's other good targets out there, greedy cunting agents

5 weeks ago fair enough, 5 days to go. Hmmmm.

Get ripped off worse on deadline day.

Morally it aint right but this isnt Care Bear land.

Sound like a Latin American corruption deal, by walking away hopefully the agent will reappear with his tail between his legs.

malkys a stubborn character anyway sometimes its good and sometimes its bad and in this case it is good

5 weeks ago fair enough, 5 days to go. Hmmmm.

Get ripped off worse on deadline day.

Morally it aint right but this isnt Care Bear land.

I honestly think Malky will happily not sign anyone before the deadline if every players agent he goes for tries it on like Montero's. There is still always the loan window and after our Man City result, we are now already a much more attractive club for players to join in my opinion. If we don't sign anyone, I believe it will be because Malky doesn't want to pay over the odds and I applaud him for that.

We don't want agents trying to get every Tom, Dick and Harry they're representing to join us because Malky is an easy touch and we pay well, we will attract the wrong sort of players this way and I believe this is where clubs like QPR went wrong. Hopefully we will get someone in soon mind, we are desperate for another winger with pace and creativity.

Does the loan window stay open after the 'transfer window' I thought in the prem they closed the same time?

Does the loan window stay open after the 'transfer window' I thought in the prem they closed the same time?

If Championship clubs can loan Premiership players during the loan window, then surely Premiership clubs can loan players as well? I might be wrong mind.

prem clubs can't loan after window shuts on September 2nd, we are stuck with that squad till January, only players you can sign are fee agents or sometimes allowed bring a keeper on emergency loan if all your senior keepers are injured

It's nice to see us show some integrity rather than bending over for a player.

It's nice to see us show some integrity rather than bending over for a player.

^^^^^This, we cannot get a name like QPR, easy money, Malky is a serious operator and has principles.

Yeh don't want to be like qpr. At the end of the day if the player had any ambition and wanted to do well he would come to the premier league and tell his agent to f**k up. If he's more concernd with him and his agent getting a good pay packet then that doesn't sound too good and may possibly come here and be a flop anyway just going through the motions picking up his pay like a lot of the qpr squad.

Two sides to this though. I agree that once a fee and personal details are agreed then that deal should be stuck to, but by walking away from the deal (and possible others) dont we just end up getting our 4th or 5th choice player instead of our 1st. Isn't the agent just doing his job by trying to get that little bit extra from the deal - and who on this forum hasn't tried it on when buying/selling their car, house or whatever.

It's easy to say stick to principles and walk away from the deal but these agents know that they can just go away and find another buyer to deal with (unless the player isn't really that good and we are the only club interested).

Two sides to this though. I agree that once a fee and personal details are agreed then that deal should be stuck to, but by walking away from the deal (and possible others) dont we just end up getting our 4th or 5th choice player instead of our 1st. Isn't the agent just doing his job by trying to get that little bit extra from the deal - and who on this forum hasn't tried it on when buying/selling their car, house or whatever.

It's easy to say stick to principles and walk away from the deal but these agents know that they can just go away and find another buyer to deal with (unless the player isn't really that good and we are the only club interested).

It's a no brainer, if the player is that good and he is going to be a first team regular he will help us in our aim to survive in the Premier League this season. If he contributes to that and we survive its got to be worth every single penny spent.

Rather we play football in the Premiership than Championship. Could end up going through to the next window without a quality wide man. No brainer.

Yes we brought Medel in and he looks like a quality signing but all the Sky pundits have been raving about Wanyama which was a similar position. Described as a fantastic signing giving fantastic performances and Paul Merson said "forget about the 12m he is worth 20m"

Pay the small extra, get him in and he will add to our survival chances !

So instead of getting Capoue we got Medel, you reckon he is 4th or 5th choice? Medel is possibly a better player than Capoue, there are lots of players out there on the same par, when one door closes another opens, and standing behind that door could be a better player

What you have to consider is that the deal is not a one off, the club will have to deal with the agent in the future on further contract extensions etc. If the club feels that they cannot trust him because of this transfer, then they can only expect further problems along the line.
West Ham pulled out of a deal for Monterro, after agreeing everything, so maybe the same thing happened to them as well. I'm all for agents getting the best deal for their clients, but there is the right way and the wrong way of getting that deal and this agent sounds as if he is doing it the wrong way

All those people slating Malky for having principles...

How's the red shirt? I hope it itches like f**k.

Sorry, had to be done

I have had some fairly serious negotiation training as part of my job, there are several moves to be made when the going gets tough, you start off with a professional flinch so the opposition know they are asking too much, another one is silence it's very uncomfortable but usually the other side will make an improved offer and the last one is to walk away, just get up and walk out. The only time you agree to everything is when you have no other option, so walking away in this instance is the appropriate move, as we will have other options the player and agent now risk a less beneficial move or no move at all, the player will be furious with his agent (if he really wanted to come) and the agent will be sweating on us coming back to the table, I would leave him sweat and make him come back.

All those people slating Malky for having principles...

How's the red shirt? I hope it itches like f**k.

Sorry, had to be done

spot on mate

All those people slating Malky for having principles...

How's the red shirt? I hope it itches like f**k.

Sorry, had to be done

spot on mate

All those people slating Malky for having principles...

How's the red shirt? I hope it itches like f**k.

Sorry, had to be done

spot on mate

Money talks nothing else in football and thats all this deal boils down to

Does the loan window stay open after the 'transfer window' I thought in the prem they closed the same time?

If Championship clubs can loan Premiership players during the loan window, then surely Premiership clubs can loan players as well? I might be wrong mind.

You are wrong. Again.

Sound like a Latin American corruption deal, by walking away hopefully the agent will reappear with his tail between his legs.

My thoughts

HIs agent now as to go away and find a Premiership Club offering a better deal than we have offered he may or may not succeed but as time winds down towards the transfer deadline he might want to come back to the table and take the original offer.

The risk he takes is that by then we have moved on and signed someone else i think Malky as called this right most football agents are leeches wanting to suck the last drop of blood once a deal is agreed shake hands and stick to it

100% behind Malky on this