' Struggling for away support to smaller name clubs? '

CARDIFF CITY took over 3,000 fans to Upton Park for their first ever Premier League match.

Their second ever Premier League match away is at Hull City.
The demand has been very very slow, so far only hundreds of tickets have been sold.


Yet Fulham away a very costly day out, City sold 3,000 tickets in 24 hours and the demand was there for 6,000 tickets, yet it is a very costly away trip?


CARDIFF City Supporters club only this week had to remind our fans we have an away game at Hull and please don't forget.
Vince Alm
" Hull City away the game that people have forgot "

If we don't sell big numbers our club will have to pay for the unsold seats.

The other large travel groups Carlos Tours and Dibbs Tours are also struggling.
On other sites travel groups are advertising they are no where near full.

So will we sell out for Man Utd, Everton and Aston Villa away and struggle at places like Hull,Norwich, Stoke and Sunderland?


Surely we support our team at any away club not just the big names, if you can go and have no commitments,it should not matter who the opposition is?

Maybe I am wrong?
But the sales say this and in the Premier League, you have to have sold your tickets weeks before the game, that's how it works and that's what happened for West Ham and will for Man Utd etc etc

Are fans being priced out of the game?

Football has become a greedy game and no consideration for the working class football fan?

No one is saying go to all the away games, far to expensive,but remember the less classy places to go

Annis in all honesty I think people are holding out to see what sort of performance we show against Everton And Man City. All I l know is ill be in Hull supporting the boys. They don't just need big support against big teams they also need it for the little ones. So come on everyone lets make an effort for hull away! Bluebirds.

And season ticket holders can't buy them online!!!

I think people need to live in the real world. Ticket prices average about 40 quid a ticket and 25 quid transport before any other spending. If I had a choice of 5 or 6 away games a season then I'm sure I would pick a team in the top 6 to be honest. Do you pick hull or man city away? I know which games I would choose. If fans were was on good wages then Im sure they would go on all of them money dictates everything and a lot of fans are fed up of paying sky high prices to pay for sky high football wages. The fans are being priced out of the game. Fact.

Cant go to Hull, would have loved to because we had a great time there last year. Will be going to Stoke and Norwich though

That's the point here, money.

For people who can afford it and have Saturdays off its easy.

I Only get 1 in 4 Saturdays off, and others may get them all but money doesn't grow on trees.

I think people need to live in the real world. Ticket prices average about 40 quid a ticket and 25 quid transport before any other spending. If I had a choice of 5 or 6 away games a season then I'm sure I would pick a team in the top 6 to be honest. Do you pick hull or man city away? I know which games I would choose. If fans were was on good wages then Im sure they would go on all of them money dictates everything and a lot of fans are fed up of paying sky high prices to pay for sky high football wages. The fans are being priced out of the game. Fact.

Agree , I'm not in the best paid job so can only afford a few aways each season , I didn't want to miss the 1st ever game in the premier league, I'm going to Fulham and possibly 1 other depends on funds , it's just to expensive unfortunately.

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

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the least glamorous away fixture for sure, how many times have we played them lately, and just a few months ago. i know we have been promoted but its still hull isnt it? ie a long way and a dump of a place.....

And season ticket holders can't buy them online!!!

I'm an ambassador and bought mine the day they came out

So will we sell out for Man Utd, Everton and Aston Villa away and struggle at places like Hull,Norwich, Stoke and Sunderland?

Most likely Annis. Last season we took the micky out of the jacks for their support away at Sunderland. I think we are going to have egg on our faces.

All the reason above for not attending are genuine with the money factor being the main one. I do believe the game has got greedy and those creaming it are laughing. Sad thing about it all is that prices will come down eventually when attendances drop but those now taking the piss will leave the game without putting anything back in and will leave it to others to pick up the pieces. Just like any other business.

City, like any club with little success for many years, will take many years of top flight football before we have a decent home and away following whoever we play.

In all honesty, City must be one of the hardest clubs to follow... we have the potential to be massive, but never had the chance to prove it.

Then everytime we though, this is it, something would get in the way.

Even after all these years of div 3/4 and leugue, championship football, we get glory but I red !

If we stay up as a decent premier side, in a few years I believe we could get 40, 000 easily, but some will only follow the glory.

So will we sell out for Man Utd, Everton and Aston Villa away and struggle at places like Hull,Norwich, Stoke and Sunderland?

Most likely Annis. Last season we took the micky out of the jacks for their support away at Sunderland. I think we are going to have egg on our faces.

All the reason above for not attending are genuine with the money factor being the main one. I do believe the game has got greedy and those creaming it are laughing. Sad thing about it all is that prices will come down eventually when attendances drop but those now taking the piss will leave the game without putting anything back in and will leave it to others to pick up the pieces. Just like any other business.

reckon we will have more than 47 there.....besides work out how often we have been there of late? how often have the jacks been to sunderland,twice maybe in 20 years?

I can afford to do one away a month and thats a fact! Most likely the same for most fans

As you keep repeating Annis, family comes first, people have responsibilities and mouths to feed, lot,s of them have to budget accordingly.Family comes first.

They may only be able to make a few away games a season, and who can blame them for picking the more attractive ones, i will be in Hull, but to be honest it feels like i was only there a few weeks ago, and not the easiest ground to ground to.

You can,t have it all ways.

As you keep repeating Annis, family comes first, people have responsibilities and mouths to feed, lot,s of them have to budget accordingly.Family comes first.

They may only be able to make a few away games a season, and who can blame them for picking the more attractive ones, i will be in Hull, but to be honest it feels like i was only there a few weeks ago, and not the easiest ground to ground to.

You can,t have it all ways.

Your right Gwyn, 100% family comes first for me nowadays, not the glory of the Premier League.

I do remember all my visits to Hartlepool,Darlington and Carlisle's,Rochdale etc, 7 -9 times each, I also remember all the faces from those days

IMHO Hull is a one off game that won't get many fans excited at the prospect of travelling to. There are many factors for me to consider before parting with ones hard earned cash.

1) Hull was visited by our travelling fans only 2 games ago. (and is a shithole)
2) The distance means our local coach is picking up at 5am!! to have plenty of time for refreshments.
3) The overall costs of travelling away in the Premier league is a lot higher than the Championship meaning fans either stump up a lot more cash or pick their games to travel to.
4) Some of us who are lucky enough to have jobs have to work a percentage of Saturdays to keep the boss happy so away games are considered a bonus.

Another point not already mentioned is that the ticket office, in their wisdom, initially put a restriction of one away game visited for sales of Hull tickets and no restrictions on the Fulham ones. This has resulted in the tickets for Fulham (a ground unvisited by City fans for many years) being snapped up and the Hull tickets being overlooked.

Lets face it, if we take 1000 to Hull it will be a bonus.

Annis in all honesty I think people are holding out to see what sort of performance we show against Everton And Man City. All I l know is ill be in Hull supporting the boys. They don't just need big support against big teams they also need it for the little ones. So come on everyone lets make an effort for hull away! Bluebirds.

I believe your right on that, but the problem is, in the Premier League, you have to buy the tickets like yesterday.

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lzspmxm

I think we would fill planes for some away games.

As you keep repeating Annis, family comes first, people have responsibilities and mouths to feed, lot,s of them have to budget accordingly.Family comes first.

They may only be able to make a few away games a season, and who can blame them for picking the more attractive ones, i will be in Hull, but to be honest it feels like i was only there a few weeks ago, and not the easiest ground to ground to.

You can,t have it all ways.

Your right Gwyn, 100% family comes first for me nowadays, not the glory of the Premier League.

I do remember all my visits to Hartlepool,Darlington and Carlisle's,Rochdale etc, 7 -9 times each, I also remember all the faces from those days

And you will realise then that the same people don,t travel to every game all the time.



I have organised travel in Aberdare for many years before we set the Rams up, we could have a bus with fifty on it for an away game and we,d have another bus two weeks later for the next away game and you,d expect the same fifty to be on board, but often there eere thirty or more new faces, and this would happen week in week out.

In relation to the above, i missed one away game last season, and when we had restrictions for ticket numbers and the club said it would be open first to people that had attende at least three away games, i thought there would be thousand, but in truth there were only a few hundred, thus dispelling the theory that thhe same people go away week in week out, it may seem like that because you keep seeing familiar faces, but the truth is quite different.

I am intending to buy a ticket for the Hull game but myself and 2 of my mates are waiting for payday next Friday before buying ours. As a fairly sizeable number of people get paid on the last working day of the month I am assuming we are not alone in this thinking?

Anyway We are starting to sweat on the availability of tickets because of the exposure the game is starting to get on this forum so we would appreciate it if you stopped talking about it please

If the Fulham and West Ham Away Games are anything to go by, with Tickets selling out fast, then I will only want to go the Hulls, Stokes and Norwich's of this world. No Premier League fixture should be out of the reach of any Supporter. But as we can see, Demand has certainly exceeded expectations. Hope all the rebranding and ticket disharmony doesn't affect the team out on the pitch. As the success of the last few years deserves to be consolidated. So its the so-called smaller Away games for me this term. As for the Arsenals, Man Citys/Utds, Liverpools and Chelsea. Would it not be a benefit to give us the 7'000 tickets that we could easily sell to those clubs??

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lzspmxm

I think we would fill planes for some away games.

Looking to do this for Newcastle.

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lzspmxm

I think we would fill planes for some away games.

Looking to do this for Newcastle.

Tim, I went last time on the plane to there with Cheggers, great trip

As you keep repeating Annis, family comes first, people have responsibilities and mouths to feed, lot,s of them have to budget accordingly.Family comes first.

They may only be able to make a few away games a season, and who can blame them for picking the more attractive ones, i will be in Hull, but to be honest it feels like i was only there a few weeks ago, and not the easiest ground to ground to.

You can,t have it all ways.

Your right Gwyn, 100% family comes first for me nowadays, not the glory of the Premier League.

I do remember all my visits to Hartlepool,Darlington and Carlisle's,Rochdale etc, 7 -9 times each, I also remember all the faces from those days

Hi Annis I too remember those away days and must say they were much more enjoyable than todays trips

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lzspmxm

I think we would fill planes for some away games.

Looking to do this for Newcastle.

Tim, I went last time on the plane to there with Cheggers, great trip

Annis, was that from Bristol ? I've started looking into charter costs for a 40-50 seater. It'll be interesting to see what the costs come back at.

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lzspmxm

I think we would fill planes for some away games.

Looking to do this for Newcastle.

Tim, I went last time on the plane to there with Cheggers, great trip

Annis, was that from Bristol ? I've started looking into charter costs for a 40-50 seater. It'll be interesting to see what the costs come back at.

Yes it was from Bristol Tim. Let me know the costs.

Does Cardiff City FC have a relationship with an airline at Cardiff Airport? If Cardiff City fans could travel to places like Hull in under an hour it would become an entirely different prospect. From Cardiff, Hull is nearly four hours by road covering 254 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lzspmxm

I think we would fill planes for some away games.

Looking to do this for Newcastle.

Tim, I went last time on the plane to there with Cheggers, great trip

Annis, was that from Bristol ? I've started looking into charter costs for a 40-50 seater. It'll be interesting to see what the costs come back at.

Yes it was from Bristol Tim. Let me know the costs.

Will do.

Annis you say Fulham is an expensive day out but is it not 60 pound for both games with Carl for coach and ticket? I got my cousins wedding in Turkey so will be away for Hull.