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Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:34 am
Been reading the info on this and notice I wont be able to upgrade a student ticket unless its for someone who has a gold ticket. What happens when season tickets are used by a social club and different people sit in seats every week.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:08 pm
Well im well fu ..ed off aswell
Ive bought my grandson a season ticket in the ninian stand for the last three years (hes 6 years old now) costs me over £200each season
Last year on the occasions he could not go I was allowed to upgrade his ticket to an adult and take a mate
This season I can only upgrade the ticket if the mate going is a gold or silver member
So to upgrade his seat I had to pay £30 to registeras a silver member they only gave me £12 for my grandsons ticket off the £40 adult ticket price
My complaint is last year upgrade at no extra cost other than difference between junior price and adult price and I can take anyone
This year restricted who I can upgrade for
As usual the real fan not considered
Why should we have to give seats that can not be used,,, to gold silver members who prabably have never been before
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:11 pm
"who have probably never been before" well that's just a crass assumption mate to be honest.
I think it's a fair system & probably the fairest way it could have been sorted. Why should someone get a ticket off a mate when there's a waiting list that people have paid to be on?
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:21 pm
I don't understand how someone can think that they should be entitled to upgrade a kids' ticket and give it to whoever they like when there are thousands of people who have paid to be members! Last season was different as the demand for tickets wasn't the same. And the 'real' fan IS being considered by restricting upgrades to members and not allowing ST holders to take anyone they want to.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:23 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:"who have probably never been before" well that's just a crass assumption mate to be honest.
I think it's a fair system & probably the fairest way it could have been sorted. Why should someone get a ticket off a mate when there's a waiting list that people have paid to be on?
probably because the person who went to the bother to buy a season ticket should have the final say as to who the tickets go to since that season ticket holder owns those tickets.
no other entertainment venue has these kind of restrictions and im trying to find another football club that does the same thing
its an excuse just to take more money off fans and I think its unfair.
why should someone get a ticket off a mate? because his mate is a season ticket holder and they are his/her tickets to give away.
I understand the upgrade if you have a concession ticket, other than that its just a blatant attempt to make more money and I very much doubt fair ever crossed their minds.
Plus again this is only targeting fans with concession tickets whats fair about that?
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:26 pm
Ffs there on a waiting list for general sale tickets and new when avaliable season tickets
Not seats that have allready been paid for that for whatever reason can not be used by the named season ticket holder
I totaly agree that the free kids season ticket holders in the familly stand should be given back to the club if not used
If i could not go due to illness or any reason why must I give my seat to some one I dont know
My assumption as you put it does have credability as all season ticket holders from last season had first call on this seasons tickets
Those on the list imo will be mostly new supporters due to us being in the premier league
I bet you anything you want that if we go down this season there will be no waiting lists and no need for gold/silver memberships to get tickets as we will have a bigger stadium than last season I we couldnt sell out then in the championship
Soon back to normal chuckles just like to have apop at me
Wonder what your oppinion would be if you were in my position
Last edited by troobloo3339 on Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:26 pm
Deano1 wrote:I don't understand how someone can think that they should be entitled to upgrade a kids' ticket and give it to whoever they like when there are thousands of people who have paid to be members! Last season was different as the demand for tickets wasn't the same. And the 'real' fan IS being considered by restricting upgrades to members and not allowing ST holders to take anyone they want to.
because they are being fair their child cant go, instead of sneaking a mate in on a concession they are being reasonable and giving the difference in the ticket cost back to the club. It wasnt problem last year why is it a problem now?
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:29 pm
At last someone gets itwell said jonny
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:32 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:"who have probably never been before" well that's just a crass assumption mate to be honest.
I think it's a fair system & probably the fairest way it could have been sorted. Why should someone get a ticket off a mate when there's a waiting list that people have paid to be on?
probably because the person who went to the bother to buy a season ticket should have the final say as to who the tickets go to since that season ticket holder owns those tickets.
no other entertainment venue has these kind of restrictions and im trying to find another football club that does the same thing
its an excuse just to take more money off fans and I think its unfair.
why should someone get a ticket off a mate? because his mate is a season ticket holder and they are his/her tickets to give away.
I understand the upgrade if you have a concession ticket, other than that its just a blatant attempt to make more money and I very much doubt fair ever crossed their minds.
Plus again this is only targeting fans with concession tickets whats fair about that?
The owner of the season ticket could give their ticket to someone in the same category and there wouldn't be a problem. In this case the person owns a childrens ticket. He can't give that ticket to an adult. Therefore it is not his ticket he is giving away, he is exchanging his ticket for an adult one. A general sale ticket is any ticket that becomes available for general sale, which would include this one.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:40 pm
I agree fully, my son (12) and daughter (9) have season tickets in the family stand (and have been ST for 6 years with me).
Last season on the odd occasion my 9 year couldnt go (esp weekday games as they mounted up at the end of the year - as we live in Chepstow) I upgraded and paid to take my 21 year old nephew - so the seat was always used.
This season I can't do that, and should I want to put my daughters seat up for sale its £49 / 19 = £2.57 and i'd then get £1.28
This system really does not work for childrens tickets in the family stand, and there's no way I am hanging around on hold with the ticket office to get £1.28 back from next years ST prices...
TBH can they even sell one odd ticket in the family stand!!1
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:43 pm
Deano1 wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:"who have probably never been before" well that's just a crass assumption mate to be honest.
I think it's a fair system & probably the fairest way it could have been sorted. Why should someone get a ticket off a mate when there's a waiting list that people have paid to be on?
probably because the person who went to the bother to buy a season ticket should have the final say as to who the tickets go to since that season ticket holder owns those tickets.
no other entertainment venue has these kind of restrictions and im trying to find another football club that does the same thing
its an excuse just to take more money off fans and I think its unfair.
why should someone get a ticket off a mate? because his mate is a season ticket holder and they are his/her tickets to give away.
I understand the upgrade if you have a concession ticket, other than that its just a blatant attempt to make more money and I very much doubt fair ever crossed their minds.
Plus again this is only targeting fans with concession tickets whats fair about that?
The owner of the season ticket could give their ticket to someone in the same category and there wouldn't be a problem. In this case the person owns a childrens ticket. He can't give that ticket to an adult. Therefore it is not his ticket he is giving away, he is exchanging his ticket for an adult one. A general sale ticket is any ticket that becomes available for general sale, which would include this one.
but its not available is it, the club can either make the difference in the cost of the ticket or the seat goes empty. What do you do if the owner of the ticket takes his/her niece/nephew instead of son/daughter who isnt a gold/silver member. I dont see what all the fuss is about, Gold membership is for rights to available tickets until that ticket becomes available on general sale not upgraded.
its disgusting really you say you dont go the club will only give you back 50% of the cost of the ticket and will then proceed to sell it for as much money as possible. If the club wants to be 'fair' buy the ticket in full from the owner because people dont like losing money and thats why they would rather give it a friend. Its almost theft if you think about I have never agreed to the terms they are now imposing.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:48 pm
But my grandsons ticket if he cant go does not become avalable on general sale
If he cant go ido not sell it
But I am prepared to give the club the extra money to upgrade it for me to take an adult to the game at my cost
This was allways allowed in the seasons gone by
Where have all these gold / silver members come from where were they last season when we couldnt sell the stadium out ffs
Its obvious those condoning what the club are doing are not affected or in our position
Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:54 pm
Just to throw another slant on it - if those people really wanted to go - why are they not gold or silver members anyway?
There are parts of the new membership system that stinks, and parts of it that are ok and we all know that everybody will never be happy.
I want to take my lad down later in the season but there is no way I'm paying £40 for him to become a member and be lucky to get to 2 games.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:57 pm
Cannot concur more with you
As I'm not going to sell my ticket back the club for 1.28
Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:21 pm
I paid for a gold ticket as I live away six weeks ago I havnt received anything from the club
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:23 pm
i have a young son who has a season ticket in the Canton, he cannot make midweek games, as he couldnt last year as it is too late for him with school the next day. i have a mate who is a Cardiff fan but also plays football every saturday so hasnt got ST or gold/silver membership himself. I find it harsh that i cannot upgrade and give my sons ticket 2 my mate and instead will have some random sat in the seat I have paid for my son!
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:25 pm
hotwings wrote:i have a young son who has a season ticket in the Canton, he cannot make midweek games, as he couldnt last year as it is too late for him with school the next day. i have a mate who is a Cardiff fan but also plays football every saturday so hasnt got ST or gold/silver membership himself. I find it harsh that i cannot upgrade and give my sons ticket 2 my mate and instead will have some random sat in the seat I have paid for my son!
you could give the seat to no one though.
But seriously, what does it matter if some random is sat there? your son cant go (and how many midweek games are there really?)
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:28 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:Those on the list imo will be mostly new supporters due to us being in the premier league
I bet you anything you want that if we go down this season there will be no waiting lists and no need for gold/silver memberships to get tickets as we will have a bigger stadium than last season I we couldnt sell out then in the championship
Soon back to normal chuckles just like to have apop at me
Wonder what your oppinion would be if you were in my position

You're just making assumptions there. I know many who can't afford STs or can't make every game, but have got gold tickets to get a chance for a ticket whenever possible.
Why should someone just skip the queue, just because he's your mate?
Where am I having a pop at you? If your mate wants to come and watch the city, he will have to join the queue like everyone else.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:40 pm
paulh_85 wrote:hotwings wrote:i have a young son who has a season ticket in the Canton, he cannot make midweek games, as he couldnt last year as it is too late for him with school the next day. i have a mate who is a Cardiff fan but also plays football every saturday so hasnt got ST or gold/silver membership himself. I find it harsh that i cannot upgrade and give my sons ticket 2 my mate and instead will have some random sat in the seat I have paid for my son!
you could give the seat to no one though.
But seriously, what does it matter if some random is sat there? your son cant go (and how many midweek games are there really?)
i probably will sell it back 2 the club rather than see it empty but i would like to think as i have made the effort 2 buy 2 ST's i would get some sort of say in who sits there when my son can't make it. as someone posted earlier it's not like i would sneak an adult in on a child's ticket, i'd pay for the upgrade to an adult.
not as many midweek's as last year at the moment but i expect there will be a few more when we get towards the end of the season and games are rearranged.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:05 pm
Got TBH I can't make my mind up with this one. I can see the argument that the club are doing all they can to stop the plastic Manc or Scouser from getting tickets ahead of Bluebirds by charging £40/£30 for Gold/Silver memberships and rewarding Gold/Silver Membership holders with all the spare tickets which become available.
Against that I can see the precedence was set in previous seasons since the move to CCS that a tickets can be upgraded and given to anyone, usually a friend without having to pay for membership i.e. helping the club.
I suppose the answer is this is the first example of ordinary fans becoming victims of the teams success. I don't expect it to be the last as ST prices rocket over the next few seasons, if we stay up.
However it still seems a little harsh on the loyal fan and of course there is that saying about "being good to people on the way up, because you'll need them again on the way down."
Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:04 pm
And your not making assumptions are you chuckles
Your making assumptions that my mate is jumping the queue and is not worthy of my spare ticket
Maybe he is not a season ticket or gold or siver member due to many reasons and maybe he was a season ticket holder for lets say the last 20 odd years
As usual chucks you got to disagree with 99% of what I post
Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:10 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:And your not making assumptions are you chuckles
Your making assumptions that my mate is jumping the queue and is not worthy of my spare ticket
Maybe he is not a season ticket or gold or siver member due to many reasons and maybe he was a season ticket holder for lets say the last 20 odd years
As usual chucks you got to disagree with 99% of what I post

I've not assumed anything at all, please show me where I have assumed?
No, he's not "worthy" of your spare ticket, because he hasn't filled the requirements by the club. If he's that bothered about watching the team, he can join the required list.
Turn it around & say that you were on the Gold list & were denied the chance of a ticket because someone's mate got it off them & he's not on the list... You'd be miffed.
Get over yourself, it isn't illegal to disagree with you.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:26 pm
As usual total bullshit of a reply
You brought up queue jumping ffs
You have no real argument
As usual you cant see both sides
If you were a race horse you would be the one wearing blinkers
And no as a city supporter I would not let my self get in a position of not having a season ticket
However you have assumed my mate is not worthy of my spare ticket
Any way dont worry yourself I paid the £30 for my mate who genuinly can not afford to do so for himself I also paid tha extra £28 pound to upgrade the ticket for him
And by the way hes been a season ticket longer than most on here
Sadly I can only help him when my grandson cant go (which is not often )
Dont really care what you think but imo my mate is more worthy than any new gold or silver members who will fu.. off and dissappear as soon as we are back in the championship or even sooner in some cases if we go on a bad run
Thought some one told me you are quite sensible in the non internet world
Cant believe youve been taken in by the club and with this issue in particular
Any way your entitled to your oppinion but im not surprised you have come to yours as its the opposite of mine
Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:32 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:As usual total bullshit of a reply
You brought up queue jumping ffs
because that is what your friend is doing by buying your ticket without having gold status. There are people who deserve it more than him on the database.You have no real argument
As usual you cant see both sides
i can see both sides, I just don't agree with yours. That is allowed.
If you were a race horse you would be the one wearing blinkers
And no as a city supporter I would not let my self get in a position of not having a season ticket
However you have assumed my mate is not worthy of my spare ticket
its not an assumption, it's fact. If he wasn't a member of the gold scheme, he doesn't deserve it. That's the club's stance on it & I agree.Any way dont worry yourself I paid the £30 for my mate who genuinly can not afford to do so for himself I also paid tha extra £28 pound to upgrade the ticket for him
And by the way hes been a season ticket longer than most on here
Sadly I can only help him when my grandson cant go (which is not often )
Dont really care what you think but imo my mate is more worthy than any new gold or silver members who will fu.. off and dissappear as soon as we are back in the championship or even sooner in some cases if go on a bad run
now that is an assumption, how do you know that there are people in a similar situation to your friends?Thought some one told me you are quite sensible in the non internet world
ive been told the same, yet I find it incredible that you cannot accept someone having a different opinion to you.
Cant believe youve been taken in by the club and with this issue in particular
Any way your entitled to your oppinion but im not surprised you have come to yours as its the opposite of mine
i disagree with you on this issue. I agreed with you yesterday. Don't think I disagree just because its you.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:27 pm
Well now why dont you read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote
Fact not fiction
Where do I say im selling my grandsons ticket or are you assuming again or cant you or dont you want to read what I wrote
One more time just for you chuckle im not selling the ticket to any one im giving it to a very deserving long time city fan who finds himself no fault of his own unable to continue as a season ticket holder this season can not afford a gold/ silver membership and even if he could he would not be able to afford the ticket prices
I hope you never find your self in his position but if you do I hope you have a good mate like he has to help you out
Now lets leave it there as this thread is not about you and me disagreeing
Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:40 pm
The people who use the social clubs tickets wont be gold members, bet a fair few of them wont be City supporters this season either. We pay a lot for the ticket and a lot more every time we ve upgraded, just think this extra is abit cheeky.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:46 pm
Thank you aderyn
Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:09 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:Well now why dont you read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote
Fact not fiction
Where do I say im selling my grandsons ticket or are you assuming again or cant you or dont you want to read what I wrote
One more time just for you chuckle im not selling the ticket to any one im giving it to a very deserving long time city fan who finds himself no fault of his own unable to continue as a season ticket holder this season can not afford a gold/ silver membership and even if he could he would not be able to afford the ticket prices
well that's very honourable of you, but that doesn't alter the fact that had he not become a gold member, he would just be "queue jumping", no matter how good a friend he is.I hope you never find your self in his position but if you do I hope you have a good mate like he has to help you out
Now lets leave it there as this thread is not about you and me disagreeing
its got nothing to do with helping out a mate. The club have made the correct decision in my mind. A friend of mine (ex ST holder) has got gold membership as he is in exile and can't travel to many games & it wouldn't be fair if someone without gold membership got a ticket before him... In my mind.
Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:12 pm
PS. Steve, it's very honourable what you are doing for your friend & I respect that. I've done something similar in the past, think its only fair that those who are gold get priority.
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