Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:04 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:07 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:10 am
Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:16 am
Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:32 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:53 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:10 am
Bakedalasker wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
Is that your rock bottom opinion?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:17 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:20 am
Bluebina wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
They already had Premier League players when they came down to the Championship, and spent that season too. They are way ahead of us in spending over the last five years. Also due to the extra TV money, all players are costing more this season, as the rest of Europe knows Premier League clubs are cash rich. We will spend more aswell, but we've got the money and will need to to stay up ........
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:21 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
Is that your rock bottom opinion?
More of a fact than an opinion really isn't it.
According to you guys the season you got promoted, it was the strongest league ever so if you add £30 million of players to that then surely its stronger than a team that went up via the play-offs in a weaker league that only spent half as much since?
just common sense. If you think West Ham have a better side hen what the hell has Malky spent twice as much money on?!
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:26 am
darran1927 wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
Is that your rock bottom opinion?
More of a fact than an opinion really isn't it.
According to you guys the season you got promoted, it was the strongest league ever so if you add £30 million of players to that then surely its stronger than a team that went up via the play-offs in a weaker league that only spent half as much since?
just common sense. If you think West Ham have a better side hen what the hell has Malky spent twice as much money on?!
You are forgetting that West Ham were relegated from the Premiership and were able to keep most of the players so when they went back up they had much better squad than Reading (who went on a amazing run to win the league ) and Southampton who kept up their momentum from winning league 1 . You ask any knowledgeable football fan out of those 3 squads that went up which team had the better squad everyone would say West Ham
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:27 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Bluebina wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Owain wrote:Gavin wrote:Very reassuring, and an obvious but good point, home form is key, I see his WH team pushing for top 8 if Carroll has a decent season, theyve shaped a team around him.
They've got some top quality players, and I agree I think they'll be very strong this year.
The irony is, since their promotion from the Championship, if you take out Andy Carroll who didn't play yesterday - you have spent nearly TWICE as much as they spent in their two seasons at this level combined!
lets not forget that's on top of a championship winning squad where as West Ham went up via play-offs.
IF you think they have a better squad then surely Malky has spent incredibly poorly considering he spent twice as much?
They already had Premier League players when they came down to the Championship, and spent that season too. They are way ahead of us in spending over the last five years. Also due to the extra TV money, all players are costing more this season, as the rest of Europe knows Premier League clubs are cash rich. We will spend more aswell, but we've got the money and will need to to stay up ........
They finished 3rd, you finished 1st in the Championship seasons.
and of course its been said on here many a time it was the strongest championship in history, meaning you had a better base of players once promoted, spent twice as much... yet have a worse team than them? how?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:33 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:35 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Nope, it was said it was the best league ever DUE TO it being the most competitive.
come on guys make your mind up, has Malky been mug with his cash or did you get promoted from a weak league after all?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:36 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:MilkyJoe wrote:Nope, it was said it was the best league ever DUE TO it being the most competitive.
come on guys make your mind up, has Malky been mug with his cash or did you get promoted from a weak league after all?
Where? Quotes please. Or are you just spouting nonsense to back your agenda.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:38 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:41 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:Can't back up your claims with evidence...
All Black Everything. wrote:Load of bollocks. The Championship was the strongest and most even its been for years.
The 3 teams that came down still had very strong squads but underachieved.
We spent £10m on quality - internationals, prem players, etc. it showed.
Watford loaned half of Serie A taking them up a notch.
Hull City made some solid loan signing and signings and they were strong.
Leicester spent big on players but underachieved
Palace had Zaha who went to United for £15m - United would not buy a player overachieving in a rubbish league - they've bought a player from a strong league who is inconsistent. Thats Zaha's only problem and if United sort that they have a good player
There is a reason that the most common result in the league was 2-1.
Most games were hard fought and could have gone either way.
Durham talks out of his backside and its even more stupid people are agreeing with the muppet.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:42 am
nice try Roathy
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:44 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:So one person on here claims it was the strongest & it was a well known WUM.
nice try Roathy
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:46 am
SBF1 wrote:Eric_from_Ely wrote:I know we can only draw or beat whats put in front of us, but many are saying its been very weak this season.
Many?
I've only heard it's the strongest it's ever been, as anyone can beat anyone.
Most of the TV pundits have been saying the same.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:48 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:51 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:I don't see anyone saying they think its strongest there, only relaying what they had heard.![]()
It wasn't the strongest, it was very competitive. Both very different things.
I thought it was a rather average championship standard league, myself.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:31 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:35 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:35 am
Carpe Diem wrote:During our time in the Championship there are a few teams that stood out (other than Cardiff of course!). The Reading and Newcastle title winning teams (for Reading I mean the 2005/06 season, still the best side relative to others I've seen at that level). West Brom for the way they were able to regroup after relegation and bounce straight back.
Other than that its always the same extremely tough, competitive league. In my experience its never been poor, weak or shocking. To win it is a great achievement![]()
We didn't play well yesterday and lost away in our first game. We had only 2 new signings on show, one of which had only recently flown in and had barely even trained with the squad. Are west ham better than us? Probably and may well finish higher as they have a squad of PL experience. Long way to go though and we will sign other players. As history shows, the amount you spend often has no bearing on how players or squads compare to each other on the pitch. Lets hope long term MM gets it right.
Are Villa now better than Arsenal? Any bets as to who will finish higher?
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:36 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:52 am
MilkyJoe wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:During our time in the Championship there are a few teams that stood out (other than Cardiff of course!). The Reading and Newcastle title winning teams (for Reading I mean the 2005/06 season, still the best side relative to others I've seen at that level). West Brom for the way they were able to regroup after relegation and bounce straight back.
Other than that its always the same extremely tough, competitive league. In my experience its never been poor, weak or shocking. To win it is a great achievement![]()
We didn't play well yesterday and lost away in our first game. We had only 2 new signings on show, one of which had only recently flown in and had barely even trained with the squad. Are west ham better than us? Probably and may well finish higher as they have a squad of PL experience. Long way to go though and we will sign other players. As history shows, the amount you spend often has no bearing on how players or squads compare to each other on the pitch. Lets hope long term MM gets it right.
Are Villa now better than Arsenal? Any bets as to who will finish higher?
History shows the clubs that spend the most are more often than not more successful than ones that don't.
Malky has said he may not go back into transfer market according to some on here.
If you think it was a one off poor show then fair enough, however on what we saw yesterday - youre in trouble.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:52 am
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:54 am
Carpe Diem wrote:
Could say the same about your defence yesterday. What was Williams doing for RVPs first goal? Great finish but the ball was there to be headed away.
Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:56 am
MilkyJoe wrote:[
Agree with you. However Williams rarely does that so its ok..
Williams enjoys an error. We all know that!