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Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:00 am

According to our sewer rat neighbour


SL69 wrote:
Stringer bellend.
Wales is not officially a country but a principality.
Amd how old ate u out off intrest? I mean your post are child like at best

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:01 am

No, it's not a country.

It's a paradise

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:02 am

Swansealad is just a bitter little retard.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:03 am

England is not a Country, its a Kingdom :lol: :lol: :lol:

There are some pwopa pwopa imbeciles around. mostly gyppos

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:03 am

Think the coulker signing effected his mind? :mrgreen:

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:04 am

Think the coulker signing effected his mind? :mrgreen:

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:05 am

Madness. Dont forget people from swansea are British not Welsh

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:07 am

BiggyG wrote:According to our sewer rat neighbour


SL69 wrote:
Stringer bellend.
Wales is not officially a country but a principality.
Amd how old ate u out off intrest? I mean your post are child like at best


That is technically correct if you want to get political.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:08 am

Bray wrote:
BiggyG wrote:According to our sewer rat neighbour


SL69 wrote:
Stringer bellend.
Wales is not officially a country but a principality.
Amd how old ate u out off intrest? I mean your post are child like at best


That is technically correct if you want to get political.


Wales is a country. :roll:

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:08 am

pembroke allan wrote:Think the coulker signing effected his mind? :mrgreen:


He's permanently monged!

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:08 am

Bray wrote:
BiggyG wrote:According to our sewer rat neighbour


SL69 wrote:
Stringer bellend.
Wales is not officially a country but a principality.
Amd how old ate u out off intrest? I mean your post are child like at best


That is technically correct if you want to get political.


I was just going to say the same thing but thought I'd only be called a Jack if I did

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

Bray wrote:
BiggyG wrote:According to our sewer rat neighbour


SL69 wrote:
Stringer bellend.
Wales is not officially a country but a principality.
Amd how old ate u out off intrest? I mean your post are child like at best


That is technically correct if you want to get political.


No mate your wrong


Wales is not a Principality. Although we are joined with England by land, and we are part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

We have a long history that goes from the old welsh kingdoms and the middle ages. We have had a 'Prince of Wales' from 1301, when Edward I created the title. The title is given to the eldest son of each English monarch.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

I said it was a country. Also ima bluebird through and through and was arguing with swansealad

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... ry-1813629

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:09 am

Swansea fans give it the big one when they play English teams in the prem. Singing Welsh songs. Then they don't turn up to Wales game.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

Officaly its a principality.
Murphy again I will ask! Bitter at what! A over hyped city that is only anything in walws!.
Just like us your just a smalll city , but unlike us u think tour an international capitol.
As for your nes signing! I will say its a good one, but unless he has a good player at the side off him he aint going ro savw u as he needs someone to help him out

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 am

Officaly its a principality.
Murphy again I will ask! Bitter at what! A over hyped city that is only anything in walws!.
Just like us your just a smalll city , but unlike us u think tour an international capitol.
As for your nes signing! I will say its a good one, but unless he has a good player at the side off him he aint going ro savw u as he needs someone to help him out

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:12 am

SL69 wrote:Officaly its a principality.

its also a country.

Murphy again I will ask! Bitter at what! A over hyped city that is only anything in walws!.
Just like us your just a smalll city , but unlike us u think tour an international capitol.

we are an international capital. What a fool. :lol:

As for your nes signing! I will say its a good one, but unless he has a good player at the side off him he aint going ro savw u as he needs someone to help him out

youre talking like he's going to be playing on his own. Hudson will step up, like many of the SCFC defenders did. :laughing6:

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:12 am

Overhyped City? Swansea will never be the city cardiff is

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:16 am

SL69 wrote:Officaly its a principality.
Murphy again I will ask! Bitter at what! A over hyped city that is only anything in walws!.
Just like us your just a smalll city , but unlike us u think tour an international capitol.
As for your nes signing! I will say its a good one, but unless he has a good player at the side off him he aint going ro savw u as he needs someone to help him out


You really are a plonker.. :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:


http://www.english.leannewood.plaidcymr ... -official/

Wales Is A Country, Not a Principality – Official
12/08/2011


Plaid Cymru’s Leanne Wood has succeeded in getting Wales’ status as a country confirmed in the eyes of the international community.

The South Wales Central AM has successfully lobbied for Wales to be given ‘country’ status after it was pointed out to her that an influential newsletter for the international community conferred principality status upon Wales.

The amendment could be made in time for the publication of the next edition of the newsletter by the International Standards Organisation (ISO) which describes itself as the world's largest developer and publisher of International Standards and a network of the national standards institutes of 162 countries.

Dai Barnaby, a constituent from Llantrisant, first alerted Ms Wood to the error last year. Since then, the AM from Penygraig, Rhondda, has written to the Counsel General, the First Minister, the ISO and the British Standards Institute (BSI), who are responsible for supplying information to the ISO, in order to get the anachronistic description ofWales updated.


The term principality refers to a monarchical feudatory or sovereign state whose ruling monarch is a prince or a princess with an executive role in administering the state. Since the Prince of Wales has no role in administrative control overWales and has not done for centuries, the term is archaic in constitutional terms.


The offending ISO Newsletter described theUnited Kingdom as consisting of two countries;England andScotland, withNorthern Ireland described as a province andWales a principality.


In correspondence to Ms Wood, the chairman of the BSI, Paul Woodman, said:
“The ISO 3166-2 entry originated in a traditional understanding of the status of Wales as given in reference works such as the 1976 Oxford Illustrated Dictionary. Earlier this year we were alerted by the Welsh Assembly Government to the fact that the notion ofWales as a principality is now outdated, and thatWales should properly be considered a country.


“Having subsequently received an official statement to this effect from that Government, I wrote on behalf of BSI to the ISO Secretariat in Geneva to request that a change be made in ISO 3166-2 from principality to country at the first available opportunity.

“This opportunity will very probably come when the next ISO 3166-2 Newsletter is issued, which I expect will be within the next few months. So please be assured that this alteration is indeed in hand and is in the process of being made as swiftly as possible.”


After contacting the First Minister’s office, Ms Wood also secured a concession from Carwyn Jones to “continue to liaise with the ISO to confirm that the change of status forWales from ‘principality’ to ‘country’ is included within the next edition of the newsletter.”


Mr Barnaby, who is an editor on Wikipedia in his spare time, campaigned to get the status changed after getting dragged into long and drawn-out debates aboutWales’ status with fellow editors.


“Noting Wales as a principality has no modern geographical or constitutional basis and is contrary to the views of the Welsh Government, academics, commentators, historians and the Welsh population,” said Mr Barnaby.


“The Principality of Wales existed only between 1216 and 1542 and its area was significantly different to that of modernWales. I was also concerned that noting Wales as a principality may lead people to believe that the Prince of Wales may have some constitutional role inWales, or thatWales' status could be considered to be less than that of the countries ofScotland orEngland.”


He added: “That the British Government and the ISO describeWales as a country is a welcome move that will help maintain the status quo and may prove to be one of the stepping stones needed forWales to be included with other countries.


“Time will tell. Nevertheless, I am very grateful to Leanne Wood and her staff, that she accepted my concerns as being legitimate, that she took the time and trouble to do something about it on my behalf and, that due to her persistence, this outcome was achieved.”

Ms Wood said:
“I hope this, once for all, puts to an end to the debate on whetherWales is a country or a Principality.Wales is a country and has been for a long time. Now that we have proper law-making powers for our legislature, I think it is time we consigned any references ofWales being a Principality to the rubbish bin.


“To some people this matter may seem inconsequential but there is a lot of misunderstanding and ignorance aboutWales, especially outside ofEurope.

“Inaccuracies like the one printed in the last edition of the ISO Newsletter, no matter how esoteric the publication is, can engender a false impression ofWales and fuel ignorance.


“Furthermore, given that this document was circulated to a key council of the United Nations, it had the potential to damage our reputation on an international stage among a select band of very influential people.


“I hope this message will be received loud and clear by Cheryl Gillan, the Secretary of State for Wales, as she has, in the past, referred to Wales as being “both a principality and a country” as did David Cameron, who recently referred to Wales as being a principality during a speech to the Welsh Conservative Party conference.


“If they want to be taken seriously this side of Offa’s Dyke they need to at least get their facts straight about Wales.



"Wales's status has been misrepresented by people who should know better. I'd urge all Plaid members to challenge the use of the word 'principality' to defineWaleswhenever the opportunity arises.



"It's official now – our country has no constitutional relationship with the prince of Wales - the relationship is an artificial and pointless one."

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:19 am

Wales is classed as a Principality in the same way that England is classed as a Kingdom.
This is to do with feudal law and nothing to do with whether either place is a country or
not. For instance The Kingdom Saudi Arabia is a Country, so is the Kingdom of Bahrain.
So is England, and so is Wales!

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:19 am

veteranfan wrote:Wales is classed as a Principality in the same way that England is classed as a Kingdom.
This is to do with feudal law and nothing to do with whether either place is a country or
not. For instance The Kingdom Saudi Arabia is a Country, so is the Kingdom of Bahrain.
So is England, and so is Wales!


Not any more. :D

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:23 am

Monaco is a Principality and still a country. A principality is a country.

We're not a principality anyway. The Queen is our Head of State.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:29 am

Wales is a Country end of.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:41 am

Wales is a country :ayatollah: f**k the English!

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:58 am

SL69 wrote:Officaly its a principality.
Murphy again I will ask! Bitter at what! A over hyped city that is only anything in walws!.
Just like us your just a smalll city , but unlike us u think tour an international capitol.
As for your nes signing! I will say its a good one, but unless he has a good player at the side off him he aint going ro savw u as he needs someone to help him out


Bitter because you live in the 2nd city and soon to be 3rd city as Newport is growing. Come to think of it, can't even class Swansea as a proper city, shithole is more adapt. Your so bitter you hate Wales because of it! Oh, your also bitter because we've just a player whom you idiolised 2 seasons ago. :laughing6:

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:07 am

SL69 wrote:Officaly its a principality.


Not according to this.

Wales Is A Country, Not a Principality – Official
12/08/2011

Plaid Cymru’s Leanne Wood has succeeded in getting Wales’ status as a country confirmed in the eyes of the international community.

The South Wales Central AM has successfully lobbied for Wales to be given ‘country’ status after it was pointed out to her that an influential newsletter for the international community conferred principality status upon Wales.


http://www.english.leannewood.plaidcymr ... -official/

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:13 am

It hasnt been a principality for about 700 years! lol

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:24 am

BiggyG wrote:According to our sewer rat neighbour


SL69 wrote:
Stringer bellend.
Wales is not officially a country but a principality.
Amd how old ate u out off intrest? I mean your post are child like at best


He's right, making yourself out to be a dull c**t here.

Also, Plaid Cymru pushed for it, but it hasn't gone further as the Welsh public haven't given them office.

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:29 am

Wales is a place wot I lives in. :D

Re: Wales is not a Country

Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:32 am

Whoever thinks Wales is not a country needs to go back to junior school lol