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Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:55 am

Why is it that nearly every post on here lately seems to turn into an argument and normally between the same few members? :cry:
No doubt this post will end up with the normal suspects squabbling again. :lol:

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:57 am

because anyone with a differing opinion is a jack or a troll.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 am

It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:03 am

Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.



Not noticed that.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:03 am

Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.


Where's all this troll crap come from?

Thought they lived under bridges, had horns and big webbed feet - or am I thinking of the missus again? :D

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:06 am

Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.


hammer, head, hit.

and failing that a quick message to a chumy mod will get a banning. how dare someone have a different opinion.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:13 am

Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.


Why are you bringing me up? More than happy to debate, but won't roll over and stop posting my opinions, because someone disagrees with them.

Prime example is the Hudson thread just this morning.. Someone claiming he's not good enough after one performance. Yes, it's an opinion & he has a right to air it, but it's a ludicrous opinion that I cannot respect.


Trolling is when people are posting for bites. Like you do regarding Gestede being a Champions League forward. You've also done it regarding red kit.

Thing is, when you post normally, instead of trolling, you do make some valid points.

Trolling is also when you pretend to be something you're not. Such as pretending to be a Cardiff fan, when its quite clear that you are a Swansea fan.

Having a minority opinion ISN'T trolling, unless its written in a style to antagonise others.

:ayatollah:

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:15 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.


Why are you bringing me up? More than happy to debate, but won't roll over and stop posting my opinions, because someone disagrees with them.

Prime example is the Hudson thread just this morning.. Someone claiming he's not good enough after one performance. Yes, it's an opinion & he has a right to air it, but it's a ludicrous opinion that I cannot respect.


Trolling is when people are posting for bites. Like you do regarding Gestede being a Champions League forward. You've also done it regarding red kit.

Thing is, when you post normally, instead of trolling, you do make some valid points.

Trolling is also when you pretend to be something you're not. Such as pretending to be a Cardiff fan, when its quite clear that you are a Swansea fan.

Having a minority opinion ISN'T trolling, unless its written in a style to antagonise others.

:ayatollah:


it seems you have just made up a new meaning for a word. congratulations.

look it up.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:16 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.



Not noticed that.

they need to look at some other sites mate.for the lively lads who are on here it is generally peaceful on here.funny enough the lads who used to get involved down the ground and at the football in general are the least aggressive on here.it,s the self proclaimed peace niks who are always argueing on here

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:17 am

Mods need to clean this up ASAP. Things need to be put in place to stop same old shit happening over and over again.
This Forum has gone down hill dramatically of late. Could be Time to move on possibly.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:24 am

You cannot debate with people creating a fictional charachter with the sole purpose of trolling.

Jacks with Cardiff City log-ins, the mods are either being blind, or under orders to let it slide to generate hits.

Either way its ruining the forum.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:27 am

Idiots who claim someones a troll just for posting a different opinion. Can't form an arguement so resort to the troll word. More braincells in a tin of spam.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:29 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:You cannot debate with people creating a fictional charachter with the sole purpose of trolling.

Jacks with Cardiff City log-ins, the mods are either being blind, or under orders to let it slide to generate hits.

Either way its ruining the forum.


debate the content not the username, it doesn't matter who the poster is, supports, likes, dislikes. If the content is rubbish then it can be combatted through debate, if the content is strong then it usually ends in a slanging match and play the troll card.

anyone who changes his viewpoint depending on who he believes the other person supports is a f*cking mentalist as far as im concerned.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:35 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:You cannot debate with people creating a fictional charachter with the sole purpose of trolling.

Jacks with Cardiff City log-ins, the mods are either being blind, or under orders to let it slide to generate hits.

Either way its ruining the forum.


ON THE BUTTON

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:36 am

jtc wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.



Not noticed that.

they need to look at some other sites mate.for the lively lads who are on here it is generally peaceful on here.funny enough the lads who used to get involved down the ground and at the football in general are the least aggressive on here.it,s the self proclaimed peace niks who are always argueing on here



spot on mate

a good fuckin slap half of the bi polar pc doogooders/keyboard abusers need - I've not really seen a nasty venomous email from any 'Lad' on here - :malky:

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:38 am

Monsieur MĂȘ wrote:Idiots who claim someones a troll just for posting a different opinion. Can't form an arguement so resort to the troll word. More braincells in a tin of spam.


spot on

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:42 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.


Why are you bringing me up? More than happy to debate, but won't roll over and stop posting my opinions, because someone disagrees with them.

Prime example is the Hudson thread just this morning.. Someone claiming he's not good enough after one performance. Yes, it's an opinion & he has a right to air it, but it's a ludicrous opinion that I cannot respect.


Trolling is when people are posting for bites. Like you do regarding Gestede being a Champions League forward. You've also done it regarding red kit.

Thing is, when you post normally, instead of trolling, you do make some valid points.

Trolling is also when you pretend to be something you're not. Such as pretending to be a Cardiff fan, when its quite clear that you are a Swansea fan.

Having a minority opinion ISN'T trolling, unless its written in a style to antagonise others.

:ayatollah:


You often write your posts in a style to antagonise others...

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:47 am

Mario is 100% spot on. This site is shit. This jack nonce has been proved wrong over and over and would never reason. How can you debate with someone who has a disease like that?

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:50 am

Paulie1927 wrote:Mario is 100% spot on. This site is shit. This jack nonce has been proved wrong over and over and would never reason. How can you debate with someone who has a disease like that?


go to ccmb then. I hadn't even heard of you before this thread and im sure its the same for many others.

don't like it? leave. :wave:

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:50 am

No it isn't!

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:56 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:You cannot debate with people creating a fictional charachter with the sole purpose of trolling.

Jacks with Cardiff City log-ins, the mods are either being blind, or under orders to let it slide to generate hits.

Either way its ruining the forum.


Spot on.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:59 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.

I don't see why some feel the need to be right all the time. Surely one of the perks of discussion is hearing other people's point of view and learning things.

Chuckles is a decent bloke but avoid debating with him because he doesn't give in even when he knows he's wrong. If you have an opinion different to his you are a troll. You won't win in an argument with him because he switches it on its head to suit him.


Trolling is when people are posting for bites. Like you do regarding Gestede being a Champions League forward. You've also done it regarding red kit.

:ayatollah:


Point proven. I rate Rudy and think in the future he will be class but because you don't rate him I'm trolling. Absolutely ridiculous. You claim having a minority opinion isn't trolling yet when I have one it is trolling. The rules apply to suit you and you once again have twisted it to try and prove a point but the blunt hypocrisy of your argument is clear for everyone to see.

If you can't accept that I rate Rudy that is your own problem. Malky clearly does and I agree with him. At 27-28 I think Rudy will be at a bigger club than us unless we progress quickly. To seem to forget strikers of his type peak late in their careers.

If you can't accept that then I'm putting you on ignore. It's sickening his you can have a clear vendetta against one of our own players.

Just because someone has a different opinion to you, it doesn't mean they're trolling. You ain't the be all and end all of life and not only your opinion matters.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:01 am

Not even the mods can stick to a subject. You ask for opinions and you just recieve a sarcastic response regarding usernames.

It is becoming quite dull.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:06 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:It's called debate. The problem is some people can't accept when they are wrong so instead try and claim the other person is a troll to strengthen their position in the debate and score points.



Not noticed that.


Honestly, I've trolled in the past, I ain't claiming to be a saint but I got told to wise up and i took it on board. How am I supposed to act in a mature and respectful fashion when the likes of some members go to any length and even call others a troll just to score points? You then get dragged down to their level as they want and they manipulate it to make you look the bad one. They know fully well what they are doing calling people with different opinions trolls. It's nothing to do with having an opinion but all to do with trying to abuse others to make themselves look clever and gain credit from others.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:14 am

NIGELNIGLE wrote:Why is it that nearly every post on here lately seems to turn into an argument and normally between the same few members? :cry:
No doubt this post will end up with the normal suspects squabbling again. :lol:

No it won't! :lol:

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:16 am

If you start a discussion with a group of people with different opinions and views thats what happens.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:04 pm

Chuckles is involved in 90% of the arguments on here, that's not a slight against him but the truth. He sticks to his guns and his passive aggressive posting style often rubs people up the wrong way. He told me he put me on ignore yet responds to everything I say, which baffles me to be honest, the man literally cannot help himself.

If you've put me on ignore, keep me on ignore.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:16 pm

toshacks_1_tales wrote:
NIGELNIGLE wrote:Why is it that nearly every post on here lately seems to turn into an argument and normally between the same few members? :cry:
No doubt this post will end up with the normal suspects squabbling again. :lol:

No it won't! :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Fecking knew it :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:31 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Chuckles is involved in 90% of the arguments on here, that's not a slight against him but the truth. He sticks to his guns and his passive aggressive posting style often rubs people up the wrong way. He told me he put me on ignore yet responds to everything I say, which baffles me to be honest, the man literally cannot help himself.

If you've put me on ignore, keep me on ignore.


I found this so funny. believable but funny.
It's like you are actually begging chuckles to ignore you......quality post and you've gone way up in my estimation.

Re: Every post turning into an argument

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:34 pm

I get called a troll when I don't hide behind anything.

I have an opinion and get knocked down for being a troll when I am not, I find it funny.