Out of hand

BU and the we'll always be blue campaign could really backfire this season.

The english media dislike us as it is, we'll be labelled as fans against owners and a club in turmoil. We need to be a united club going into premier league.

I respect the view to be in blue and appreciate the strong feelings. But the always be blue songs are a protest song. VT has done a huge amount for our club and rebrand aside surely all fans would rather he stay?

Can't we use the trust, BU and dare i say SH to take a diplomatic approach behind the scenes and leave the songs to support the team??

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I am Cardiff City through and through. That will NEVER change.

I don't think BU is going the right way about their dealings and have said all along that the majority of CCFC fans will look at them as a hindrance rather than a help if they continue on the 'we are the only real fans' ego trip.

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Nah your alright Paul

We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

When the football starts again the rebrand will be put to one side and regardless of colour we will all be there to support the team. Blue and the bluebirds are here to stay so let's just except the BU stance as well as those who are happy to back Tans red. I will be there to back the team not the owner. If he does not like the fact that people want to keep the clubs traditional colours then so be it. He is a billionaire business man who ultimately is at the club to make money so this nonsense about being grateful to him, he's our leader etc is a utter nonsense.

Tan rebranded the club, like it or not, people are against it.

Tan is clearing our debt
Tan put the money up to buy the players that got us promoted
Tan is puting the money up for a state of art training facility
Tan has given malky the budget to compete for quality signings
Like it or lump it
And before you all tear into me I am no red I want blue colours and the bluebird prominant as much as any one
Having 4 kids and 8 grand kids ive allways brought them up knowing you cant allways have every thing you want, so be gratefull with what you do have, becouse yes sometimes you can have more ,but sometimes you can have a lot less,

We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

Correct.

We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

Amazingly, you can do both things at the same time.

BU are embarrassing? Not as embarrassing as fans who actively wear the red shirt, in my mind.

Tan is clearing our debt
Tan put the money up to buy the players that got us promoted
Tan is puting the money up for a state of art training facility
Tan has given malky the budget to compete for quality signings
Like it or lump it
And before you all tear into me I am no red I want blue colours and the bluebird prominant as much as any one
Having 4 kids and 8 grand kids ive allways brought them up knowing you cant allways have every thing you want, so be gratefull with what you do have, becouse yes sometimes you can have more ,but sometimes you can have a lot less,

My sentiments exactly

BU and the we'll always be blue campaign could really backfire this season.

The english media dislike us as it is, we'll be labelled as fans against owners and a club in turmoil. We need to be a united club going into premier league.

I respect the view to be in blue and appreciate the strong feelings. But the always be blue songs are a protest song. VT has done a huge amount for our club and rebrand aside surely all fans would rather he stay?

Can't we use the trust, BU and dare i say SH to take a diplomatic approach behind the scenes and leave the songs to support the team??

english media against you?hows that one work?i haven,t read any anti cardiff stuff in the papers.i,d say most english people think you being prem now will add a new twist to the prem.for the betterment of it.the media were that against you they would be having a go at whipping the masses up to have a purely english e.p.l.if there are media broadcasts of your fans singing for blue then it,s good.you need all football fans behind you on this one.believe me EVERY fan of EVERY club iv spoken to about it thinks it,s wrong what v,t has done kit wise to you.where i live i live amongst wolves,wba ,villa ,blues(few )man utd,old school man city,liverpool,sunderland and the mags.not one has said the rebrand is right

We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

Amazingly, you can do both things at the same time.

BU are embarrassing? Not as embarrassing as fans who actively wear the red shirt, in my mind.

BU and the statement it's attempting to make aren't an embarrassment but the actions that are beginning to creep into their organisation are.

It's fair to say that 'it's only a couple of idiot kids' for a while but it's going to get old VERY fast.

We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

Amazingly, you can do both things at the same time.

BU are embarrassing? Not as embarrassing as fans who actively wear the red shirt, in my mind.

To put it another way, I have more respect for someone like my uncle who is a 40 year bluebird and chooses to wear red quietly at matches than anyone who associates themselves with BU and takes the piss out or insults of any other city fan.

How can people just expect us to forget about the rebrand and pretend it never happened. Standing up for your tradition and what you believe in isn't out of hand. What's out of hand is some foreigner coming in to our club and messing about with it and it's supporters the way he wants. We were here before Tan and we'll be here long after him and his dynasty, so it should be us he's thinking of, not some businessman in China or wherever.

To put it another way, I have more respect for someone like my uncle who is a 40 year bluebird and chooses to wear red quietly at matches than anyone who associates themselves with BU and takes the piss out or insults of any other city fan.

Good for you. That's the beauty of opinions, everyone has a different one.

I have more respect for a fan who will continue to wear blue and actively get involved in wishing to get it back, than a fan who chooses to wear that monstrous red shirt.

You mention "takes the piss out of or insults other city fans"

Surely that's what this thread is doing, insulting and taking the piss out of other city fans...

To put it another way, I have more respect for someone like my uncle who is a 40 year bluebird and chooses to wear red quietly at matches than anyone who associates themselves with BU and takes the piss out or insults of any other city fan.

Good for you. That's the beauty of opinions, everyone has a different one.

I have more respect for a fan who will continue to wear blue and actively get involved in wishing to get it back, than a fan who chooses to wear that monstrous red shirt.

You mention "takes the piss out of or insults other city fans"

Surely that's what this thread is doing, insulting and taking the piss out of other city fans...

Actually I think this post is fairly reasonable given the shite that normally gets said on here! He's summarising how he feels without effing and jeffing and doesn't say anything bad about BU members directly and then asks a perfectly nice and debate able set of questions.

To put it another way, I have more respect for someone like my uncle who is a 40 year bluebird and chooses to wear red quietly at matches than anyone who associates themselves with BU and takes the piss out or insults of any other city fan.

Good for you. That's the beauty of opinions, everyone has a different one.

I have more respect for a fan who will continue to wear blue and actively get involved in wishing to get it back, than a fan who chooses to wear that monstrous red shirt.:

Despite the actions of said individual? And when I say actions I appreciate that buying a red shirt is an action which could be deemed disrespectful itself but in reality it isn't. Like you said everyone had the right to an opinion.

The difference is the way you go about letting other people know your opinion.

Despite the actions of said individual? And when I say actions I appreciate that buying a red shirt is an action which could be deemed disrespectful itself but in reality it isn't. Like you said everyone had the right to an opinion.

I don't care about individuals actions. If you buy the red shirt as an adult, I don't have as much respect for you as I would someone who chooses to fight for our true identity.

The difference is the way you go about letting other people know your opinion.

All I have done is countered yours & other people's opinions with my own.

Despite the actions of said individual? And when I say actions I appreciate that buying a red shirt is an action which could be deemed disrespectful itself but in reality it isn't. Like you said everyone had the right to an opinion.

I don't care about individuals actions. If you buy the red shirt as an adult, I don't have as much respect for you as I would someone who chooses to fight for our true identity.

The difference is the way you go about letting other people know your opinion.

All I have done is countered yours & other people's opinions with my own.

Yes but it isn't about you! It's about the members of BU that even other BU members don't want speaking up and letting the side down with their witless comments about 'red knob heads' or car crashes or any other nonsense.

I would love to join BU but I refuse to be associated with a group where a certain element show a lack of reason and understanding which could be detrimental to their own cause. It's just plain daft!

We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

Amazingly, you can do both things at the same time.

BU are embarrassing? Not as embarrassing as fans who actively wear the red shirt, in my mind.

To put it another way, I have more respect for someone like my uncle who is a 40 year bluebird and chooses to wear red quietly at matches than anyone who associates themselves with BU and takes the piss out or insults of any other city fan.

Your uncle is a disgrace

why cant some fans respect our beliefs we dont disrepect theirs if man utd or liverpool etc changed colours there would be protests everywhere so leave us get on with it

We have 10m bids on the table for players I doubt very much Tan is just going to throw a girly turn and walk away now just because of a chant

You dont care for the colour fine, dont chant the song, but stop crying about those of us who want to express our feelings and frustrations through song.

Its a free country wether Tan likes it or not.

We have 10m bids on the table for players I doubt very much Tan is just going to throw a girly turn and walk away now just because of a chant

You dont care for the colour fine, dont chant the song, but stop crying about those of us who want to express our feelings and frustrations through song.

Its a free country wether Tan likes it or not.

sums it right.tans in now.nows the time to turn up the heat in a non violent way.when i was down ccs in oct i said to nukes i can understand the kids in red tops but it made me feel proper sad looking at 40plus yr olds in the red kit.didn,t seem right at all.

We have 10m bids on the table for players I doubt very much Tan is just going to throw a girly turn and walk away now just because of a chant

You dont care for the colour fine, dont chant the song, but stop crying about those of us who want to express our feelings and frustrations through song.

Its a free country wether Tan likes it or not.

sums it right.tans in now.nows the time to turn up the heat in a non violent way.when i was down ccs in oct i said to nukes i can understand the kids in red tops but it made me feel proper sad looking at 40plus yr olds in the red kit.didn,t seem right at all.

16 and under I can excuse Jeff but 40 year old men? Disgrace.

Yes but it isn't about you! It's about the members of BU that even other BU members don't want speaking up and letting the side down with their witless comments about 'red knob heads' or car crashes or any other nonsense.

I would love to join BU but I refuse to be associated with a group where a certain element show a lack of reason and understanding which could be detrimental to their own cause. It's just plain daft!

I AM a member of BU that has condemned those comments.

We have 10m bids on the table for players I doubt very much Tan is just going to throw a girly turn and walk away now just because of a chant

You dont care for the colour fine, dont chant the song, but stop crying about those of us who want to express our feelings and frustrations through song.

Its a free country wether Tan likes it or not.

Most city fans agree that we want our blue back but the way some BU members act makes us think twice about joining what could otherwise be a positive, progressive idea.

It's not your opinion we don't like. It's the way you put it across.

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We will see when the season starts but most definitely doesn't look good for Cardiff city when we are in the spotlight. People are going to be thinking we are more concerned about the colour blue than actually supporting the Cardiff City and the boys on the pitch.
BU is a hindrance for our club imo and gonna make us look embarrassing to the world

Amazingly, you can do both things at the same time.

BU are embarrassing? Not as embarrassing as fans who actively wear the red shirt, in my mind.

To put it another way, I have more respect for someone like my uncle who is a 40 year bluebird and chooses to wear red quietly at matches than anyone who associates themselves with BU and takes the piss out or insults of any other city fan.

Your uncle is a disgrace

Christ we have some drama queens........

I have not heard of a player not playing well because of the lyrics in a chant (that obviously is not against him or a team mate ) 10K singing we'll always be blue or the CCS library- Not a tough choice.

The media are not against us, we are a great story !!! If we can change, then English football has changed, we demonstrate all that is good about modern football.......(a little tongue in cheek)

My point followed people saying Sky were saying bout the chant and hope its covered more.

Just think the media will push this and if VT is constantly questioned he'll walk. He said as much in his recent interview recently.

I'd rather be blue but accept the rebrand for VT being at club. I can see more chance for change in diplomatic behind the scenes with the various groups. Taking this on the terraces will be confrontational and could backfire.