This could be controversial (BU)

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

well said mate they are dinosaurs

I think it is a brave achievement but a year too late

Why didn't the prominent supporters make a stance a year ago ??

Only time will tell if BU succeed

Brave but too little too late

well said mate they are dinosaurs

It just really puzzles me why they really think tan cares when he has a waiting list of people who want to come and see the games and waiting to pay money. Fair enough if we were filling half of the stadium and we were in a crisis but this year will see the biggest income Cardiff city have ever seen.

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

Where did you get that figure from???????

Where have you heard about red shirts sales going well?

As far as I can see BU is a stand for the blue. This stand is needed for the period that Tan is in the club because I for one cannot see him doing a U turn. Basically any new owner needs to see the passion of the blue and without the likes of BU that could quite easily fade away specially if Tan is with us for a few more seasons.

Now if BU grow or not is another question of which only time will give us an answer.

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

I think that football fans are very fickle.

There are a certain number now who are backing Bluebirds Unite in spite of the fact that we're in the Premier League because to us, identity is far more important than playing Premier League.

However if Cardiff were to go back down again, I guarantee there would be A LOT more people who would suddenly prioritise being blue again when they don't have Premier League football to prioritise.

Personally I just hope that we can stay up AND enough people will eventually see sense to actually make a difference, and make Tan realise what he's done is wrong.

If not then, at least the people who have tried can say they didn't sit back and do nothing.

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

Where did you get that figure from???????

I meant signing up for Facebook pages etc... Worded a little wrong. Some have decided to boycott and nearly 1000 decided to go to a poxy pub event. But BU claim they have 5000 members

coventry city are looking for fans

Where have you heard about red shirts sales going well?

As far as I can see BU is a stand for the blue. This stand is needed for the period that Tan is in the club because I for one cannot see him doing a U turn. Basically any new owner needs to see the passion of the blue and without the likes of BU that could quite easily fade away specially if Tan is with us for a few more seasons.

Now if BU grow or not is another question of which only time will give us an answer.

I thinks it was Lim who said we have sold thousands of red shirts

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

I think that football fans are very fickle.

There are a certain number now who are backing Bluebirds Unite in spite of the fact that we're in the Premier League because to us, identity is far more important than playing Premier League.

However if Cardiff were to go back down again, I guarantee there would be A LOT more people who would suddenly prioritise being blue again when they don't have Premier League football to prioritise.

Personally I just hope that we can stay up AND enough people will eventually see sense to actually make a difference, and make Tan realise what he's done is wrong.

If not then, at least the people who have tried can say they didn't sit back and do nothing.

Very interesting. I do believe more people will join if we get relegated but I believe this BU thing won't last a year

still: NO NEED for the colour and badge change!!! We would have goe up in blue with our crest...

it was done because of TAN'S SELFISH PERSONAL LIKINGS OF RED...

Where have you heard about red shirts sales going well?

As far as I can see BU is a stand for the blue. This stand is needed for the period that Tan is in the club because I for one cannot see him doing a U turn. Basically any new owner needs to see the passion of the blue and without the likes of BU that could quite easily fade away specially if Tan is with us for a few more seasons.

Now if BU grow or not is another question of which only time will give us an answer.

I thinks it was Lim who said we have sold thousands of red shirts

I would take what comes out of the mouths of these Malaysians with a pinch of salt.

still: NO NEED for the colour and badge change!!! We would have goe up in blue with our crest...

it was done because of TAN'S SELFISH PERSONAL LIKINGS OF RED...

I think that is a bitter reply, I take it you're part of BU

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

I think that football fans are very fickle.

There are a certain number now who are backing Bluebirds Unite in spite of the fact that we're in the Premier League because to us, identity is far more important than playing Premier League.

However if Cardiff were to go back down again, I guarantee there would be A LOT more people who would suddenly prioritise being blue again when they don't have Premier League football to prioritise.

Personally I just hope that we can stay up AND enough people will eventually see sense to actually make a difference, and make Tan realise what he's done is wrong.

If not then, at least the people who have tried can say they didn't sit back and do nothing.

Very interesting. I do believe more people will join if we get relegated but I believe this BU thing won't last a year

I might tend to agree with you, but having seen the people in charge of it, I can tell just how determined they are.

I think this could go on for 10 years without changing anything and they still wouldn't give up.

Being on the Facebook page and seeing the amount they're doing, having set up a website, a forum, a twitter page, a petition, as well as selling merchandise which seems to be brining in a fair amount of money to Bluebirds Unite with the amount of people i see making orders, then i'd say they have a very good chance of making it last.

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

I think that football fans are very fickle.

There are a certain number now who are backing Bluebirds Unite in spite of the fact that we're in the Premier League because to us, identity is far more important than playing Premier League.

However if Cardiff were to go back down again, I guarantee there would be A LOT more people who would suddenly prioritise being blue again when they don't have Premier League football to prioritise.

Personally I just hope that we can stay up AND enough people will eventually see sense to actually make a difference, and make Tan realise what he's done is wrong.

If not then, at least the people who have tried can say they didn't sit back and do nothing.

Very interesting. I do believe more people will join if we get relegated but I believe this BU thing won't last a year

I might tend to agree with you, but having seen the people in charge of it, I can tell just how determined they are.

I think this could go on for 10 years without changing anything and they still wouldn't give up.

Being on the Facebook page and seeing the amount they're doing, having set up a website, a forum, a twitter page, a petition, as well as selling merchandise which seems to be brining in a fair amount of money to Bluebirds Unite with the amount of people i see making orders, then i'd say they have a very good chance of making it last.

Could you tell me where this money is going? I believe they maybe using this as a way of making so money for personal use.

Also 10 years is very extreme. There will be a new generation of fans coming through which all they know is red. Sorry but they need to give up now before protests become violent and people start jumping off the Bandwagon rather than jumping on.

Could you tell me where this money is going? I believe they maybe using this as a way of making so money for personal use.


Also 10 years is very extreme. There will be a new generation of fans coming through which all they know is red. Sorry but they need to give up now before protests become violent and people start jumping off the Bandwagon rather than jumping on.

Why do you believe that? That's a very damaging and wholly inaccurate statement. All monies raised will be spent on "celebrating" blue. Eg - giving out free blue scarves before a game.

Again, what evidence is there that it will be come violent? they don't "need to give up" at all.. Who do you think you are?!

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

I think that football fans are very fickle.

There are a certain number now who are backing Bluebirds Unite in spite of the fact that we're in the Premier League because to us, identity is far more important than playing Premier League.

However if Cardiff were to go back down again, I guarantee there would be A LOT more people who would suddenly prioritise being blue again when they don't have Premier League football to prioritise.

Personally I just hope that we can stay up AND enough people will eventually see sense to actually make a difference, and make Tan realise what he's done is wrong.

If not then, at least the people who have tried can say they didn't sit back and do nothing.

Very interesting. I do believe more people will join if we get relegated but I believe this BU thing won't last a year

I might tend to agree with you, but having seen the people in charge of it, I can tell just how determined they are.

I think this could go on for 10 years without changing anything and they still wouldn't give up.

Being on the Facebook page and seeing the amount they're doing, having set up a website, a forum, a twitter page, a petition, as well as selling merchandise which seems to be brining in a fair amount of money to Bluebirds Unite with the amount of people i see making orders, then i'd say they have a very good chance of making it last.

Well as far as BU lasting a year that will all come down to support.

For instance if the first game of the season at home the stadium is a sea of red then BU will be finished. Can't see that happening.

still: NO NEED for the colour and badge change!!! We would have goe up in blue with our crest...

it was done because of TAN'S SELFISH PERSONAL LIKINGS OF RED...

I think that is a bitter reply, I take it you're part of BU

To be fair mate , that is pretty factual . We were promoted with on field investment , nothing to do with kit colour . Unfortunately like the guy said , the change was a pre requisite imposed by tan as that is the colour of his choice . Don't think anyone can argue that

I hate coming on this forum and seeing only rebrand threads so I apologise for this but just seeing some people's opinions on this matter.

I have heard that there is an 8,000 waiting list for season tickets...and high demand for HOME tickets. I am also hearing that red shirts are now selling well. I do not understand why VT would really care about the 5,000 people who have decided to boycott or set up a poxy gathering in a pub who wear blue and sing a few songs and talk about a load of Bollux that'll change absolutely nothing.

I would like to know where you think BU is going?

I want to hear opinions from both sides? I'm just interested In why people think BU is going places.

I think that football fans are very fickle.

There are a certain number now who are backing Bluebirds Unite in spite of the fact that we're in the Premier League because to us, identity is far more important than playing Premier League.

However if Cardiff were to go back down again, I guarantee there would be A LOT more people who would suddenly prioritise being blue again when they don't have Premier League football to prioritise.

Personally I just hope that we can stay up AND enough people will eventually see sense to actually make a difference, and make Tan realise what he's done is wrong.

If not then, at least the people who have tried can say they didn't sit back and do nothing.

Very interesting. I do believe more people will join if we get relegated but I believe this BU thing won't last a year

I might tend to agree with you, but having seen the people in charge of it, I can tell just how determined they are.

I think this could go on for 10 years without changing anything and they still wouldn't give up.

Being on the Facebook page and seeing the amount they're doing, having set up a website, a forum, a twitter page, a petition, as well as selling merchandise which seems to be brining in a fair amount of money to Bluebirds Unite with the amount of people i see making orders, then i'd say they have a very good chance of making it last.

Could you tell me where this money is going? I believe they maybe using this as a way of making so money for personal use.

Also 10 years is very extreme. There will be a new generation of fans coming through which all they know is red. Sorry but they need to give up now before protests become violent and people start jumping off the Bandwagon rather than jumping on.

Again, knowing the people in charge and how important Cardiff being blue is to them, i'm confident this money would not be going into their own pockets.

Rather into producing more merchandise and organising events to help make BU a success.

I agree that if this doesn't work soon, within the next year or 2, it will never work. I don't see why protests should become violent either, if they do, it will just come from people who are opposing BU because i don't think they have any intention of causing trouble.

In the short space of time they've been formed, i honestly believe they've done a great job, and if nothing else it's great to be part of a group who feel so passionately about the club's identity, because last season, with all my mates I go to the game with accepting the rebrand, i thought i was the only one.

This group has largely re-affirmed my faith in our club's fans.

Could you tell me where this money is going? I believe they maybe using this as a way of making so money for personal use.


Also 10 years is very extreme. There will be a new generation of fans coming through which all they know is red. Sorry but they need to give up now before protests become violent and people start jumping off the Bandwagon rather than jumping on.

Why do you believe that? That's a very damaging and wholly inaccurate statement. All monies raised will be spent on "celebrating" blue. Eg - giving out free blue scarves before a game.

Again, what evidence is there that it will be come violent? they don't "need to give up" at all.. Who do you think you are?!

Just getting people's opinions.
Also I was asking a question not saying it as a fact. Trying to create a debate for once on this messageboard

You asked a question, then made a statement after it, which was incorrect.

To me, you're dead against it. That's not debate. You're telling them to stop. Where's the debate in that?

If you don't agree with them, that CCFC should be in blue, fine. That doesn't mean you have the right to run them down at every opportunity with incorrect insinuations & orders to stop.

Could you tell me where this money is going? I believe they maybe using this as a way of making so money for personal use.

Well your wrong for thinking that. All the money will go to supporting other events. Also I will add knowing the leadership of BU quite well they are actually out of pocket. I can well believe them knowing the work and procurement they have put into this project.

Also 10 years is very extreme. There will be a new generation of fans coming through which all they know is red. Sorry but they need to give up now before protests become violent and people start jumping off the Bandwagon rather than jumping on.

Until something like that happens all you are doing is judging. You have no evidence that anything like this has happened, I mean has anyone threatened to bury you or mention CCTV cameras.

still: NO NEED for the colour and badge change!!! We would have goe up in blue with our crest...

it was done because of TAN'S SELFISH PERSONAL LIKINGS OF RED...

I think that is a bitter reply, I take it you're part of BU

it is a bitter reply, as Tan spoiled everything Cardiff City for me. FFS we are in the PL, something I always wanted to see, us playing the big boys...

Am I excited? No.
Looking forward to the season? No.
Enjoy Cardiff City (like I have since 1990)? No.
Gonna see any games? No.

I tried to accept it and watched a few games last season. Simply cannot do it. It hurts deeply...

I actually thought of supporting another club, but I cant do that, either. Cardiff City means too much for me. Therefore I am on boycott, no games, no merch, no tickets...NOTHING (until our rightful colours, badge, IDENTITY is fully reinstalled). Until then I'm in exile.

You asked a question, then made a statement after it, which was incorrect.

To me, you're dead against it. That's not debate. You're telling them to stop. Where's the debate in that?

If you don't agree with them, that CCFC should be in blue, fine. That doesn't mean you have the right to run them down at every opportunity with incorrect insinuations & orders to stop.

I am not strongly against it. And even if I am as you can see on the first post of this topic I said I wanted to hear from both sides

still: NO NEED for the colour and badge change!!! We would have goe up in blue with our crest...

it was done because of TAN'S SELFISH PERSONAL LIKINGS OF RED...

I think that is a bitter reply, I take it you're part of BU

it is a bitter reply, as Tan spoiled everything Cardiff City for me. FFS we are in the PL, something I always wanted to see, us playing the big boys...

Am I excited? No.
Looking forward to the season? No.
Enjoy Cardiff City (like I have since 1990)? No.
Gonna see any games? No.

I tried to accept it and watched a few games last season. Simply cannot do it. It hurts deeply...

I actually thought of supporting another club, but I cant do that, either. Cardiff City means too much for me. Therefore I am on boycott, no games, no merch, no tickets...NOTHING (until our rightful colours, badge, IDENTITY is fully reinstalled). Until then I'm in exile.

If that is for personal reasons that's fine but you do realise that it won't really make a difference. I know this sounds arrogant but it's not like we are not filling the ground etc. you won't be missed by tan

Could you tell me where this money is going? I believe they maybe using this as a way of making so money for personal use.


Also 10 years is very extreme. There will be a new generation of fans coming through which all they know is red. Sorry but they need to give up now before protests become violent and people start jumping off the Bandwagon rather than jumping on.

Why do you believe that? That's a very damaging and wholly inaccurate statement. All monies raised will be spent on "celebrating" blue. Eg - giving out free blue scarves before a game.

Again, what evidence is there that it will be come violent? they don't "need to give up" at all.. Who do you think you are?!

Just getting people's opinions.
Also I was asking a question not saying it as a fact. Trying to create a debate for once on this messageboard

Your debating skills are in question then.

Telling people to give up looks like your mind is set.

still: NO NEED for the colour and badge change!!! We would have goe up in blue with our crest...

it was done because of TAN'S SELFISH PERSONAL LIKINGS OF RED...

I think that is a bitter reply, I take it you're part of BU

it is a bitter reply, as Tan spoiled everything Cardiff City for me. FFS we are in the PL, something I always wanted to see, us playing the big boys...

Am I excited? No.
Looking forward to the season? No.
Enjoy Cardiff City (like I have since 1990)? No.
Gonna see any games? No.

I tried to accept it and watched a few games last season. Simply cannot do it. It hurts deeply...

I actually thought of supporting another club, but I cant do that, either. Cardiff City means too much for me. Therefore I am on boycott, no games, no merch, no tickets...NOTHING (until our rightful colours, badge, IDENTITY is fully reinstalled). Until then I'm in exile.

If that is for personal reasons that's fine but you do realise that it won't really make a difference. I know this sounds arrogant but it's not like we are not filling the ground etc. you won't be missed by tan

Then why did he mention 5%?

We might not be missed financially but morally we are getting under his skin.

To Chuckles and Bakedalasker.Can't you tell a troll when you see one.Posing as an ITK poster he has now moved as he hes nothing to write about on the transfer front so he'll wind you up on the rebrand front.Speaking as a person who's not against the rebrand at the expense of the clubs well being even I can see this guy's up to mischief just for the sake of it.