' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League? '

I can see fans are now getting worried/annoyed/frustrated that we are not signing many quality players.
Malky and even the club it's self have admitted going after players and it's not been happening for us.
In my opinion this existing squad without a doubt would go straight back down.
There does seem to be a problem attracting players, Malky for weeks has been going after players.
I honestly feel for Malky right now and wonder how he really feels right now.
I personally thought Malky would have had 3 signings this week and many people who work at our club incl Malky thought we would have 2-3 new players.




Will Tan start thinking its Malky that can't attract them ?
That Cardiff City are not attractive enough for quality players to come here?
The quality players in the Premier League are thinking Cardiff City are one season wonders and not an established Premier League Club?

Malky might panick buy?
Tan might give Malky more money to attract players?

What ever happens this season, myself personally will be fully supportive of Malky.

Your thoughts/comments/opinions?

I can see fans are now getting worried/annoyed/frustrated that we are not signing many quality players.
Malky and even the club it's self have admitted going after players and it's not been happening for us.
In my opinion this existing squad without a doubt would go straight back down.
There does seem to be a problem attracting players, Malky for weeks has been going after players.
I honestly feel for Malky right now and wonder how he really feels right now.
I personally thought Malky would have had 3 signings this week and many people who work at our club incl Malky thought we would of had 2-3 new players.



Will Tan start thinking its Malky that can't attract them ?
That Cardiff City are not attractive enough for quality players to come here?
The quality players in the Premier League are thinking Cardiff City are one season wonders and not an established Premier League Club?

Malky might panick buy?
Tan might give Malky more money to attract players?

What ever happens this season, myself personally will be fully supportive of Malky.


Your thoughts/comments/opinions?

Tan doesn't have the clear knowledge to know it is not easy to attract quality players.

There are ones who have potential international careers to think about and see us favourites to go down.

MM is trying, he is attracting them but some things down the other end of players have let us down.

Malky won't panick buy, from January last season we was nervous but he was calm as ever and managed to bring in 2 players who were key to seeing us over the line.

Instead of f*cking about, and fannying about on tom ince, we should have matched celtics valuation like Southampton did and signed wanyama simple as... Carry on with this attitude and we will pay the price and be relegated

Cant really say that Ince convinced me but with the likes of Cadozo and Wany in the squad plus 2 decent defenders I felt we had enough to be comfortable.

It does look like the 2 defenders are still on the menu so not all is lost. However I do feel this now has made us relegation material. We need 2 quality players to come in but not sure we are going to be close. Think we are going to go into the season in the unknown.

Instead of f*cking about, and fannying about on tom ince, we should have matched celtics valuation like Southampton did and signed wanyama simple as... Carry on with this attitude and we will pay the price and be relegated

This was said 3 days ago - when i said Southampton would sign Wanyama - your spot on cakey

Please tell me forever blue...........are you saying we cant attract quality players because they feel we are a one season wonder,if that is the case,why don't these same quality players feel the same about Hull City for example?

Annis, I'm 100% behind Malky and the team as usual and I sincerely hope he (Malky) leaves the negativos with large quantities of egg on their faces over the next couple of weeks and into our historic season

Hope the holiday s going well Was that 'Rockit' in Universal behind you in the photo you posted with Carlos the other day?

It certainly looked like and I'm out there myself with perfect timing in September, as I don't miss a single home game thanks to the international break! Happy days

Plenty of time to go. A lot of business is done in the last week of the window. Malky will have a lot of other irons in the fire and will secure enough quality to keep us up. It's not like we need 10 new players. We've got Cornelius, we just need to add a couple of full backs, a CB, winger a CM and another striker. One or two of these could be on loan. Stop worrying....Malky is the Man

Unless I'm missing something most of this negative vibe is based on rejection by a single player. A player a lot of people on here (and over on ccmb) view as over-priced and a bit of a gamble.

What other players do we know (based on fact and not speculation) have turned us down?

IMO I don't think we should view the lack of new recruits as a problem at this stage. We are looking for quality and competing at a totally different level now so it should be expected that the players we are interested in have options. MM has said all along we need to be patient, the squad will not be fully in place before Switzerland and probably not even before West Ham.

The time to judge recruitment is when then window shuts.

Everyone is feeling down at the moment, not because we haven't made signings but the manner in which these signings have not been made? I think it's just the Cardiff fans way, that we always believe that we are bigger than the rest of the world think we are! I think we all have it in our heads that if we go in for a player and all things being equal, the player would choose us over any other, it clearly doesn't work that way!!
Personally, I think Malky is our biggest asset in attracting players, he is passionate, thoughtful, articulate, organised, positive and forward thinking. I can't imagine any players, turning us down because of Malky.
If I have one criticism, it's of the type of players we are going after. It's admirable that we are going after the next big things, in Cornelius, Ince and Wanyama, but these guys have no Premier League experience, that to me is a gamble, they may be good players individually, but if they find themselves all the the team at the same time, then that lack of top class experience may cost us. I think these type of signings are all one season too soon. I would like to see us bring in 6 players of the Phil Neville calibre. In my opinion, we should be looking no further ahead than ahead than this season. Lets get the players in to get us through this season. Then we build again next year.

Please tell me forever blue...........are you saying we cant attract quality players because they feel we are a one season wonder,if that is the case,why don't these same quality players feel the same about Hull City for example?

Hull City havent signed quality

At the end of the day, most of the PL and its fans are expecting us to be relegated anyway. The way I see it, I hope we manage to sign one or two players (particularly a defender) before the end of the window, but if not, I'll support the team whatever.

Remember Hull when they first got into the PL about 5 years ago - they went on a winning streak, beat the likes of Arsenal and Newcastle and hung on in there for two seasons. I don't remember them having any quality players to speak of...

We're CCFC and we're in the PL - although one or two quality signings would be nice, let the squad who got us there, have a go at the PL for themselves. They deserve it after all they/we've been through over the last 5 years...

It's very worrying that players don't fancy a fight to keep us up this season. There are a lot of quality players being snapped up by other teams leaving the ones no-one wants

Unless we get some quality in we're doomed - it's as simple as that.

I think Malky is being too ambitious.

Its one thing being linked to the likes of Cardoza, Gomis, the next French international left back.etc but realistically we aint getting those type of players until we establish ourselves in the PL.

We need to follow Norwich and Southamptons lead and sign the best talent in the championship plus one or two expetienced PL campaigners. Then years 2 and 3 we build on that.

Tom Ince was the right idea but one of those things, Im not sure I believe the family and staying in the NW thing if im honest, if Spurs had come in for him hed be down there no questions asked.

I think Malky left that drag on far too long and hopefully will learn from the experience.

I think Malky is being too ambitious.

Its one thing being linked to the likes of Cardoza, Gomis, the next French international left back.etc but realistically we aint getting those type of players until we establish ourselves in the PL.

We need to follow Norwich and Southamptons lead and sign the best talent in the championship plus one or two expetienced PL campaigners. Then years 2 and 3 we build on that.

Tom Ince was the right idea but one of those things, Im not sure I believe the family and staying in the NW thing if im honest, if Spurs had come in for him hed be down there no questions asked.

I think Malky left that drag on far too long and hopefully will learn from the experience.

We can't even attract a cart-horse defender like Wes Morgan at the moment FFS! Seriously, if Malky thinks it's players of this calibre that are required to keep us up then lord help us.

Sorry, but i'm Very pissed off today

There is a still long way to go in the transfer window and still think we will see some decent signings. Malky will have any side we put out well prepared and even if we are short on ability we will be competitive and hard working. My suspicion is that Tan is hedging his bets on Malky keeping us on a modest budget so that if we get relegated he can leave and recoup some of his investment. My worry is how Tan will cope if we make a bad start especially as our fans are often impatient to say the least! Our Malaysians owners are clueless about football, remember that they entertained Alan Shearer as manager at one point. Just hope they back Malky with time as well as money.

I dont believe Malky is after the likes of Wes Morgan unless he is on plan ZZ!!!!

Im talking Jake Livermore, Graham Dorrans, Jordan Rhodes, Will Buckley, Jack Hunt.etc

Players IMO who are gettable and will add quality to what we already have.

Keep the faith boys, keep the faith.

Probably more chance of bringing in a foreign player than a British player at the moment. I think we will strengthen the squad but ideally get the players in the next two weeks, to allow the players to settle in. Surely Cardiff would be more attractive a proposition than a few clubs I can mention! The Premiership as usual has three types of club. Title contenders, mid table clubs and the clubs who will spend most of the time at the bottom end of the division. Would love us to fall into the middle category but it will be very tough and we can only hope that we survive our first season in the Premiership. I have to be honest and say that the Jacks have surprised me and have done well since reaching the Premiership. Can we emulate them, I hope so.

We can't even attract a cart-horse defender like Wes Morgan at the moment FFS! Seriously, if Malky thinks it's players of this calibre that are required to keep us up then lord help us.

Sorry, but i'm Very pissed off today

Sorry mate, not getting at you personally but this is just the kind of negative, ill informed comment that is fuelling the negative vibe at the moment. You are basically saying the following:

1) Wes Morgan is a current target for this window
2) We have agreed a deal with his club
3) He has turned us down

If all of the above points are true then I must have missed it and I apologise to you. If not, then your comment "We can't even attract a cart-horse defender like Wes Morgan at the moment FFS!" is total nonsense and, like I said, fuelling the negative vibe.

I'm not really sure what you are expecting Annis when you say "Quality Players" unless of course you are talking about Van Persie, Suarez, Kompany etc who are so far out of our league it's not worth even talking about them. Also I will never dismiss our existing squad as certain relegation fodder.

MM has promised to get us to a position where we will be competitive and I'm sure he will do that, but to survive we need to be competitive with the likes of Hull, Palace, Stoke, Sunderland, Villa, Fulham, Norwich, Southampton and our cousins out west.

What we need amongst our squad is evolution and not revolution and rather than try to buy an almost complete new squad, like Hull, we need to add depth to our existing squad. We are already on the way to doing that with Cornelius who looks the type of player we were crying out for last season and of course we have a fit Maynard.

I'm with MM and our players every inch of the way next season, we know they will never give up in any game, and I honestly believe we will surprise a few people next season.

One of the problems that Cardiff have with English players is that we like Swansea are seen as a footballing backwater, they would much rather sign for a team in Lancashire, Yorkshire, the midlands or London depending on which part of the country they live where there are many, many teams all within a close proximity.
We should concentrate on signing foreign players where apart from the bright lights on London maybe we would have a good a chance as any team of our size like Stoke, WBA, Norwich, Southampton etc of signing foreign players as long as we offer the asking price. Admittedly this year will be slightly more difficult as it's our first in the premier league therefore we are statistically more likely to get relegated but it's down to the powers that be to sell these players our dream & vision & so the question is are these people up to it can they close a deal?
As for the two players that we missed out on in the first instance if we had matched Southampton's offer he would have come to us I'm sure of that but the club didn't value him at 12.5 million was that a mistake only time will tell.
As for Ince where we went wrong in my opinion was to let it drag on once the fee was agreed it should have been sign or move on within a week.
So fingers crossed that lessons are learned, my nerves hold out & Malky delivers or this season could prove to be a painful experience unless the current squad are far better than I give them credit for in the contex of the quality that they will be up against week in week out.

Whenever I have doubted anything Cardiff City do in the Malky era, in some way or another he bounces back with something brilliant! I have no doubt he will pull some great signings off in the next 4 weeks. Even if he doesn't I know our squad would have enough character and quality to at least fight for a 2014/15 Barclay's Premier League spot!

Instead of f*cking about, and fannying about on tom ince, we should have matched celtics valuation like Southampton did and signed wanyama simple as... Carry on with this attitude and we will pay the price and be relegated

I agree. And if Malky was prepared to pay way over the odds for Ince, why wouldn't he pay a couple of million more for Wanyama, who appeared to be quite keen on signing for us. Southampton obviously feel he is worth it, and it seems as though he was top of Malky's list.

I don't think anyone doubts Malky's commitment to our cause and as for his work ethic I'm sure everyone would also agree that he leads by example which is why the players we have work so hard too.
We all know that failure is not an option for a man like TAN, Love him or hate or even keep the jury out for a while on his ideals and beliefs but to fail now would be impossible for such a man to think about.
Personally I can see a statement of intent happening soon in the shape of a purchase of a player who would otherwise have been out of our league.
In buying such a player Tan is not only giving us more chance of staying up but also saying "I'm not f*cking about here, Cardiff City really do mean business and we are here for the long haul"
I hope i'm right as I really don't see another way of making such a statement of intent and having the world to View Cardiff as genuine Premier League Contenders.
In Malky We trust
In Tan we hope.

Firstly lets put this Red Blue divide to bed and all get behind OUR team!.We need to look at reason why certain players declined signing for us Ince new baby more comfortable in the North of England ,Wanyama (and his agent offered more money so I don't think it is Malkey or Cardiff being the problem .I am certain we will be ok we just need to sit tight and let the powers that be continue with their quest ,but as I have already mentioned we need to do our job the and the antagonist need to stop creating divides which in turn manifest infighting between CCFC fans, so can we forget the colour of the shirt issues and support our club 100% while we prepare for the Premiership!!..

Firstly lets put this Red Blue divide to bed and all get behind OUR team!.We need to look at reason why certain players declined signing for us Ince new baby more comfortable in the North of England ,Wanyama (and his agent offered more money so I don't think it is Malkey or Cardiff being the problem .I am certain we will be ok we just need to sit tight and let the powers that be continue with their quest ,but as I have already mentioned we need to do our job the and the antagonist need to stop creating divides which in turn manifest infighting between CCFC fans, so can we forget the colour of the shirt issues and support our club 100% while we prepare for the Premiership!!..

A couple of points.
I can't see where the red/blue was mentioned?
Tom Ince's missus having a baby can not be an excuse as he's known for about 9 months that this was gonna happen.

People dont half talk some shite on here. Ince turned us down. I think we have avoided a player who is going to
be a problem. Daddys boy. We need men not mice

Waynama - he WANTED to come here. But we would not get into a bidding war, f**k Celtic. £12.5m is
crazy money for a SPL player

Now... who else has turned Cardiff City down. By that I mean.. who have Cardiff City put a bid in for, had
it accepted, only for the player to say "nahh, dont fancy them"

Nobody. Its all paper talk and agents, but our ''fans'' would sooner cry moan spit the dummy our and speak
negatively of the Club than just leave Malky to crack on. Hes not let us down yet and he wont let us down
this time. We need another 4-5 players. We will get them, and they will be quality

People dont half talk some shite on here. Ince turned us down. I think we have avoided a player who is going to
be a problem. Daddys boy. We need men not mice

Waynama - he WANTED to come here. But we would not get into a bidding war, f**k Celtic. £12.5m is
crazy money for a SPL player

Now... who else has turned Cardiff City down. By that I mean.. who have Cardiff City put a bid in for, had
it accepted, only for the player to say "nahh, dont fancy them"

Nobody. Its all paper talk and agents, but our ''fans'' would sooner cry moan spit the dummy our and speak
negatively of the Club than just leave Malky to crack on. Hes not let us down yet and he wont let us down
this time. We need another 4-5 players. We will get them, and they will be quality

Perfectly put.

I have the uttermost faith in Malky to bring in players that he wants. Ince was a deal that should have been kept in the private domain but Paul Ince had to get his grotty little claws into the deal etc and Ince Jnr decided to be quite childish throughout the matter.

Wanyama was a player I'd have loved here but 12.5m for one player is way OTT.

Like Polo said, bring in players like those lot for our first season, young British players who are hungry and have a point to prove, then we can add to that if we stay up in the second season. No point running before we can walk with all these star names if they ain't gonna gel in right. I personally don't care if we have to buy Championship players to improve our squad. If you look at Norwich and Swansea when they got promoted, their squad was mostly British players and you almost thought it would be certain that Norwich went down but they didn't.

Not long till the players head out to Switzerland but I feel we'll have at least two signings.