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HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:44 am

In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:53 am

^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:57 am

One thing they have done this summer has left us in the dust regarding transfers. They have signed about 6 quality players to our 1. With the 12 mil signing of bony it looks like their are going to finish in the top half again.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:59 am

BigBadG wrote:One thing they have done this summer has left us in the dust regarding transfers. They have signed about 6 quality players to our 1. With the 12 mil signing of bony it looks like their are going to finish in the top half again.



Agreed, they have made some decent signings particularly if they bring in Bony who is a quality player.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:01 am

Paulie1927 wrote:^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there


What a clueless load of bull shit.
Our philosophy is simple spend what you can afford. Which is what we will always continue to do. Wow the amount of jealous bitter ill informed shite on here is frightening

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:02 am

I think Swansea have made some good signings but I would not worry about them getting players in quickly, their season starts earlier than most due to the Europa league. They have also made good profits over the last two seasons.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:03 am

Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:05 am

Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:


How old are you? out of interest

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:07 am

tonyblue wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:


How old are you? out of interest

older than most on here it seems... given the childish jealous drivel that's constantly being posted about us :thumbup:

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:07 am

Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:

Can't stand the jacks,but why do people post such shit?,lets be honest you don't read anything about who they signing until its done,like posted above they ve signed six to cardiffs 1,and we still make excuses about why players don't come to us

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:10 am

Gowerjack wrote:
tonyblue wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:


How old are you? out of interest

older than most on here it seems... given the childish jealous drivel that's constantly being posted about us :thumbup:


Do yourself a favour fella, don't waste your time responding to bullshit. You're clearly only here to wind people up, surely you have better things to do?

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:16 am

Swanseas way of doing things isn't SPEND AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE, its spend what they can afford.

in their first year their record signing was 3.5 mill, the year after it was 5.5 mill, this year it naturally would have been around 7.5/8 mill BUT all prem clubs got a 40% boost of income with the SKY money. so 12 million is about right as they continue to grow.

they posted 30.5 mill profits since getting to the prem and that includes every player bought. they are operating WELL in the black, they could have spent 33 million on Bony and still be in good shape.

that's the truth of the matter.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:23 am

jackf wrote:
Paulie1927 wrote:^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there


What a clueless load of bull shit.
Our philosophy is simple spend what you can afford. Which is what we will always continue to do. Wow the amount of jealous bitter ill informed shite on here is frightening



Spend what you can afford?? When did that philosophy start? Before or after you screwed over all the people you owed money to?
No doubt you will do it again as well.
Even Huw the spew has used the same business philosophy in his own personal business dealings.

With your history, and playing in a council owned rugby ground you have the nerve to talk about financial management. Jo on gypo.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:27 am

glas wrote:
jackf wrote:
Paulie1927 wrote:^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there


What a clueless load of bull shit.
Our philosophy is simple spend what you can afford. Which is what we will always continue to do. Wow the amount of jealous bitter ill informed shite on here is frightening



Spend what you can afford?? When did that philosophy start? Before or after you screwed over all the people you owed money to?
.


AFTER obviously. when Huw and the consortium took over.

its responses like that which make the jacks swarm here and make us look bitter.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:39 am

glas wrote:
jackf wrote:
Paulie1927 wrote:^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there


What a clueless load of bull shit.
Our philosophy is simple spend what you can afford. Which is what we will always continue to do. Wow the amount of jealous bitter ill informed shite on here is frightening



Spend what you can afford?? When did that philosophy start? Before or after you screwed over all the people you owed money to?
No doubt you will do it again as well.
Even Huw the spew has used the same business philosophy in his own personal business dealings.

With your history, and playing in a council owned rugby ground you have the nerve to talk about financial management. Jo on gypo.

That philosophy started when the current board took over. You see there was little they could do about the previous few regimes. Is it tans fault that sam spent too much? The fact we have made massive profits and never massive losses suggests this philosophy has been in place a while now . Its the same philosophy that ked many on here to call us tight etc.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:43 am

jackf wrote:
Paulie1927 wrote:^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there


What a clueless load of bull shit.
Our philosophy is simple spend what you can afford. Which is what we will always continue to do. Wow the amount of jealous bitter ill informed shite on here is frightening




No bullshit and that statement from you suggests you ARE rattled, fella ;)

The strong evidence suggests otherwise, fella and it was confirmed yesterday that Laudrup WAS offered other jobs and only the direct promise of transfer funds made him give it one more year. One thing I will say for him (Laudrup) is he remains loyal to his employer ;)

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:45 am

Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:




So you haven't changed your philosophy in order to keep your manager???? :?

Fella, it is YOU that is deluded (and that is the polite version) ;)

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:45 am

Sven Ghali wrote:
jackf wrote:
Paulie1927 wrote:^THIS^

Spending £12m on one player and their holier than thou philosophy has flown out of the window in one fell swoop. It goes to show that one man is actually bigger than the club. Laudrup has got exactly what he wanted against the cost of their self-promotional sainthood down there


What a clueless load of bull shit.
Our philosophy is simple spend what you can afford. Which is what we will always continue to do. Wow the amount of jealous bitter ill informed shite on here is frightening




No bullshit and that statement from you suggests you ARE rattled, fella ;)

The strong evidence suggests otherwise, fella and it was confirmed yesterday that Laudrup WAS offered other jobs and only the direct promise of transfer funds made him give it one more year. One thing I will say for him (Laudrup) is he remains loyal to his employer ;)


are you suggesting Swansea cant afford £12 mill? :?

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:46 am

Gowerjack wrote:
tonyblue wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:


How old are you? out of interest

older than most on here it seems... given the childish jealous drivel that's constantly being posted about us :thumbup:



Can't help coming over to check it out, though, can you King Cnut?? :lol: :lol:

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:54 am

Sven Ghali wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:




So you haven't changed your philosophy in order to keep your manager???? :?

Fella, it is YOU that is deluded (and that is the polite version) ;)

Please explain to me how our philosophy has changed. Spend what we can afford so no change. Simple economics. As income increases so can expenditure.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:57 am

caerblue wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:

Can't stand the jacks,but why do people post such shit?,lets be honest you don't read anything about who they signing until its done,like posted above they ve signed six to cardiffs 1,and we still make excuses about why players don't come to us





What's 'shit' about it, fella?? Have they not changed their policy since Cardiff showed they mean business? :?

Perhaps the reason we don't 'read about their signings until they are done' is that most of us on here don't trawl their web-sites ;)

It was a simple question and wasn't aimed (initially) as an insult; just my personal observation of how things changed rapidly once they saw we were putting big bids in

The 'issue' you refer to regarding how many they have signed is a pretty valid one UNTIL you consider that Malky is a very thorough man and will not be railroaded into buying a player just to please the nagativos amongst Cardiff City's following and will come up with the goods over the next week or so. Have no doubt about that ;)

An apology would be nice, fella ;)

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:58 am

Sven Ghali wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:




So you haven't changed your philosophy in order to keep your manager???? :?

Fella, it is YOU that is deluded (and that is the polite version) ;)

Please explain to me how our philosophy has changed. Spend what we can afford so no change. Simple economics. As income increases so can expenditure.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:03 am

Debate by all means but keep it sensible. :thumbup:

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:03 am

jackf wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:




So you haven't changed your philosophy in order to keep your manager???? :?

Fella, it is YOU that is deluded (and that is the polite version) ;)

Please explain to me how our philosophy has changed. Spend what we can afford so no change. Simple economics. As income increases so can expenditure.





How much money did you spend on transfers last season and the season before and how many players did that buy you??

Your income streams aren't any greater than they were last year and as I see it (and it is only my opinion based on the evidence before me) Laudrup has forced the issue and won ;)

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:07 am

Sven Ghali wrote:
jackf wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:




So you haven't changed your philosophy in order to keep your manager???? :?

Fella, it is YOU that is deluded (and that is the polite version) ;)

Please explain to me how our philosophy has changed. Spend what we can afford so no change. Simple economics. As income increases so can expenditure.





How much money did you spend on transfers last season and the season before and how many players did that buy you??

Your income streams aren't any greater than they were last year and as I see it (and it is only my opinion based on the evidence before me) Laudrup has forced the issue and won ;)

Our income streams arent greater? Apart from the 20m+ extra from sky, europa cup money and the 5m from the sale of Graham which was put aside to spend on a striker this transfer window. Having a mare here son.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:24 am

The jerks talk about the Europa League as if it is the pinnacle of world football.
It is a competition the big clubs do not want to be in.
Thursday night 5pm football in some country full of scruffs/tramps/thieves - perhaps that's why they are looking forward to it so much, as it is just like them lot.

The are competing with the likes of Bala Town (no disrespect to Bala intended).
Most importantly, Bala are representing Wales, while the jerks are representing England.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:25 am

Right, here goes, not including Bony, we have so far spent around 9.3m Euro's, that doesn't include DeGuzman who is a loan transfer, add Bony to it, and it takes us to around 23m Euro's, roughly £20m. That is about the same amount as the increased Premier League money.

Nearly every player we have signed (Apart from Bony), was linked with us for a good while now, so I expect a lot of the groundwork was already done between clubs, players, agents before the transfer window opened. Yes, there was a spat between the club and Laudrup's agent, but Laudrup has said on many occasions that he had no intention of leaving, and that it was their business, not his.

So, so far, we are only spending money that we have, as per the boards philosophy since the dark old days. :thumbright:

One additional thing, I fully expect one or two players to move on during this transfer window which will no doubt boost our balance and cover some of the wages for the season ahead... I would be one of the first to be concerned if we were going back down the path that we took under previous regimes, but for the time being, there is really nothing for us Swans fans to be concerned about. In fact, this has been the most calm Summer for the Swans in quite some time.

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:27 am

glas wrote:The jerks talk about the Europa League as if it is the pinnacle of world football.
It is a competition the big clubs do not want to be in.
Thursday night 5pm football in some country full of scruffs/tramps/thieves - perhaps that's why they are looking forward to it so much, as it is just like them lot.

The are competing with the likes of Bala Town (no disrespect to Bala intended).
Most importantly, Bala are representing Wales, while the jerks are representing England.


And you would turn down Europa League football if you qualified? P.S. You would also be representing England :thumbright:

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:31 am

No.

They've gone along with their business and probably don't have a care in the world for us in terms of looking at us, they needed reinforcements for the long season ahead due to their European adventures and so they have, very wisely. Us on the other hand, need to strengthen with players just to stay up, not saying Swansea might not be down there with us but the thing they lacked in their first seasons was strength in depth, now they've got a lot of quality, the sky is the limit

Re: HONEST QUESTION REGARDING SWANS

Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:44 am

jackf wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
jackf wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:In recent years Swansea have prided themselves (indeed built a reputation) for being a well run club that stays within its agreed budget and has a 'system' of play which is well complemented by the players in their squad. As reluctant as us Bluebirds are, we sort of had to appreciate what they achieved and how well it was done after what they endured not too long ago

But has that changed since they had to start looking over their shoulder at what is happening a few miles east along the M4 corridor?

It seems to me that Swansea are all too well aware of the threat from their capital city club coming to steal their mantle as Wales highest placed club (note I didn't say No.1 club because that will NEVER be true ;) ) and have started to move away from their miserly past

For me, it is obvious. Swansea are well 'put out' by Cardiff's rise to the Premier League and Huw the Miser is desperate to react to the 'plans' both Malky and Vincent Tan have for us. They reecntly came (literally) within hours of losing their manager and have now started spending unprecedented money just to appease him

Can't fault them for that; but it doesn't quite fit the profile, does it? ;) :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: what a load of deluded tripe as usual..

so we have only strengthened because you lot have been promoted.. :lol: :lol:

nothing to do with the fact that we are playing in Europe and we are on a natural progression and plan on retaining our top 10 status in the premier league :thumbup:

Also please can you give some proof that we were hours away from ML leaving?? when he has been saying till hes blue in the face that he had no intention of going..

This forum is always good for a laugh fair play to you :laughing5: :laughing5:




So you haven't changed your philosophy in order to keep your manager???? :?

Fella, it is YOU that is deluded (and that is the polite version) ;)

Please explain to me how our philosophy has changed. Spend what we can afford so no change. Simple economics. As income increases so can expenditure.





How much money did you spend on transfers last season and the season before and how many players did that buy you??

Your income streams aren't any greater than they were last year and as I see it (and it is only my opinion based on the evidence before me) Laudrup has forced the issue and won ;)

Our income streams arent greater? Apart from the 20m+ extra from sky, europa cup money and the 5m from the sale of Graham which was put aside to spend on a striker this transfer window. Having a mare here son.




More overheads in transfer fees, wages, etc means that is negated in a single transfer, so no mare fella, just asked a question and offered a personal opinion and that's all it is ;)