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You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:44 pm

Swansea fans taking the piss out of us, and now their kit, interview rooms, and stadium is full of Asian sponsorship hoardings and sign writing! :lol:

Slowly turning I see.....

Cue the jack Bastards... .... :?: :lol:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:48 pm

There's a big difference between sponsorship and branding.

All clubs have been sponsored for years, the league is even sponsored, but our home kit is white which is the big difference.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:50 pm

Merlin wrote:Swansea fans taking the piss out of us, and now their kit, interview rooms, and stadium is full of Asian sponsorship hoardings and sign writing! :lol:

Slowly turning I see.....

Cue the jack Bastards... .... :?: :lol:

:?

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:50 pm

Yes, its amazing isn't it....how a team from the Prem can get sponsored by an Asian business..... never seen anything of the sort before.... who'd have thought it aye...? :?

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:52 pm

SCFC wrote:There's a big difference between sponsorship and branding.

All clubs have been sponsored for years, the league is even sponsored, but our home kit is white which is the big difference.


Spot on. Premier League Asia Trophy. Even the league has got its money roots firmly planted in Asian shores. Tells us all we need to know. Nothing to do with popularity, everything to do with marketing and money.

:ayatollah:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:04 pm

Any word on the value of the sponsorship? They were looking for a partner to help fund the stadium expansion. Would have to be a decent sponsorship in value.

You cannot compare a sponsorship with club ownership. Tan put enough in to have his say in everything about the club and that investment far outweighed any sponsorship.

He still got it wrong though. He could have been a hero to ALL. But I still appreciate he paid to have the right to f**k it up. Well he will when it's all equity.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:27 pm

all I see is yet another anti-Swansea thread that has back fired on its creator....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:18 pm

To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:22 pm

JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.

:notworthy: well said

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:27 pm

It was tongue in cheek thread, don't take it so seriously jack. :D

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:29 pm

JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


They can also take the piss out of your blue CCFC top, as it has the red, rebranded badge on it. :thumbup:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:47 pm

JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:54 pm

Super Kev wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


They can also take the piss out of your blue CCFC top, as it has the red, rebranded badge on it. :thumbup:

Yes they can :thumbup:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:59 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:03 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.


You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:22 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.


You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?

I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when the person who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:26 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.


You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?

I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.


We're not. We are a welsh club playing in the English PL with a Malaysian sponsor, hence the flags etc. VT must feel he's getting a return from using Malaysia as the shirt sponsor, otherwise no doubt he would look elsewhere. It's not like he owns the country so clearly there are benefits to be had. I can't see what all the paranoia is about.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:39 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.


You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?

I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.


We're not. We are a welsh club playing in the English PL with a Malaysian sponsor, hence the flags etc. VT must feel he's getting a return from using Malaysia as the shirt sponsor, otherwise no doubt he would look elsewhere. It's not like he owns the country so clearly there are benefits to be had. I can't see what all the paranoia is about.

No shit. I'm just saying we're clearly being visualised as a Malaysian club with all this Malaysia stuff everywhere, especially with the 4 huge Malaysian flags (and only 2 Welsh flags), it's as if Malaysia's being promoted more than the fact that we are Cardiff City. And I doubt he gains anything from it. I'm not paranoid, it's just embarrassing.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:49 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.


In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?

It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.


You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?

I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.


We're not. We are a welsh club playing in the English PL with a Malaysian sponsor, hence the flags etc. VT must feel he's getting a return from using Malaysia as the shirt sponsor, otherwise no doubt he would look elsewhere. It's not like he owns the country so clearly there are benefits to be had. I can't see what all the paranoia is about.

No shit. I'm just saying we're clearly being visualised as a Malaysian club with all this Malaysia stuff everywhere, especially with the 4 huge Malaysian flags (and only 2 Welsh flags), it's as if Malaysia's being promoted more than the fact that we are Cardiff City. And I doubt he gains anything from it. I'm not paranoid, it's just embarrassing.[/quote]

You need to grow some then. Being a Malaysian club has never even crossed my mind. I see it for what it is, a commercial arrangement. I would expect a sponsor to have its branding everywhere. Our sponsor is Malaysia, so we get the flags. All clubs are smothered in advertising, it's just because we have in effect a country as a sponsor you interpret it as some kind of invasion. Paranoia.

You seriously think he won't gain anything from it? People don't become as wealthy as he is by not seeing a bigger picture. Naive.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:00 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:You need to grow some then. Being a Malaysian club has never even crossed my mind. I see it for what it is, a commercial arrangement. I would expect a sponsor to have its branding everywhere. Our sponsor is Malaysia, so we get the flags. All clubs are smothered in advertising, it's just because we have in effect a country as a sponsor you interpret it as some kind of invasion. Paranoia.

You seriously think he won't gain anything from it? People don't become as wealthy as he is by not seeing a bigger picture. Naive.

You're not getting it.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:01 pm

[/quote]No shit. I'm just saying we're clearly being visualised as a Malaysian club with all this Malaysia stuff everywhere, especially with the 4 huge Malaysian flags (and only 2 Welsh flags), it's as if Malaysia's being promoted more than the fact that we are Cardiff City. And I doubt he gains anything from it. I'm not paranoid, it's just embarrassing.[/quote]

aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?

Are you embarrassed wearing it?

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:04 pm

Gonzo wrote:aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?

Are you embarrassed wearing it?

Yes I bought the blue shirt.

No I'm not embarrassed wearing it, I just find the extent to which it has been promoted and advertised embarrassing.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:06 pm

Oooooops!

What Have I Started? :lol:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:07 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:You need to grow some then. Being a Malaysian club has never even crossed my mind. I see it for what it is, a commercial arrangement. I would expect a sponsor to have its branding everywhere. Our sponsor is Malaysia, so we get the flags. All clubs are smothered in advertising, it's just because we have in effect a country as a sponsor you interpret it as some kind of invasion. Paranoia.

You seriously think he won't gain anything from it? People don't become as wealthy as he is by not seeing a bigger picture. Naive.

You're not getting it.


Because there's nothing to get. You need to put it all into context.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:08 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Gonzo wrote:aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?

Are you embarrassed wearing it?

Yes I bought the blue shirt.

No I'm not embarrassed wearing it, I just find the extent to which it has been promoted and advertised embarrassing.


Good for you for buying it, but you are also promoting and advertising Malaysia.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:10 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Gonzo wrote:aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?

Are you embarrassed wearing it?

Yes I bought the blue shirt.

No I'm not embarrassed wearing it, I just find the extent to which it has been promoted and advertised embarrassing.


Good for you for buying it, but you are also promoting and advertising Malaysia.

Yes I know.

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:11 pm

Confused.com

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:14 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:Confused.com

See, you're not getting it. :thumbup:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:17 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Confused.com

See, you're not getting it. :thumbup:


Yes, because there's noting to get other than your paranoia.

But you whinging about being embarrassed at how much Malaysia is being promoted and advertised only to then partake in it does seem a little confusing :thumbup:

Re: You couldn't make it up! Lol

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:20 pm

Copying us again :lol:
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