' THE SPENDING HAS STARTED '

With the out of the blue acquisition of Andreas Cornelius for £8.5m today, Malky Mackay has started the spending on creating a squad which will be capable of playing, and hopefully staying, in the Premier League.

I have not looked at any youtube footage of Cornelius and only know his age, height and position through the very little I have read about him this evening but he sounds like the target man/striker that I believe our squad has lacked for some years, maybe now I can stop banging on both on here and in the Echo , fingers crossed the youngster will live up to his price tag.

I had what I can only describe as a wierd conversation today, I asked my mate who gives me info on transfers and such things, and the main topic of conversation was Victor Wanyama.

I asked him what had happened about the bid we made and the alleged acceptance of the offer. Here's the explanation given :

He told me that City made an offer (which we know now as it is public) but that talks take place between clubs/agents etc and City officials asked 'if we made an offer of x amount, would that offer be accepted?'

'Yes!'

City then make an official offer in writing but lower than the amount that was discussed.

That offer was rebuffed as we know now as it has been made public. What has not been officially confirmed by either club is what the offer amount was that was rebuffed.

I then turned and said 'but you told me that an offer was made and it has been accepted!'.

Here is the best bit :

"Carl, you got to remember, there is an offer and talks between clubs/agents etc that are discussed and agreed upon then there is an official offer, two very different things, welcome to the Premier League!"

So we made an offer verbally and Celtic, or an agent, agreed that would be accepted but we put in an 'official offer' of less and that was turned down. I don't know if you guys get it or accept it but it spun me out to be honest.

He was still adamant that City are still looking at getting the deal wrapped up.

Head spinning and a tad disillusioned I gave up on asking any more about Wanyama.

Ok, so what is the craic with Tom Ince then?

He told me that no 'official offer' has been made, yet. A lot of emphasis on the yet.

But did go on to say that it was Cardiff's intention to announce a 'big signing' whilst in Malaysia as a PR exercise and Ince was that player but with the trip cancelled that has put the deal off for a few days.

Now personally I don't see Ince as a big signing, in terms of a big name, but the price tag is big but there again we paid a big fee for Cornelius so would that fall into the big signing he was talking about?

In fairness he has always given me good info and the vast majority of names has given me have come to fruition, including the signing of Bellamy the first time around and that went on for 3 months so I do trust he is still giving me good info and hopefully we will see Wanyama and Ince paraded as new signings.

On a personal note, Malky Mackay and his staff keep their cards close to their chests regarding transfers and players they are lining up, more than any other manager we have had previously, and that was no more so evident than today with the signing of Cornelius out of the blue and not a mention of the player anywhere. So respect to Malky on that score as the info is not as readily available as in previous years and regimes.

With the out of the blue acquisition of Andreas Cornelius for £8.5m today, Malky Mackay has started the spending on creating a squad which will be capable of playing, and hopefully staying, in the Premier League.

I have not looked at any youtube footage of Cornelius and only know his age, height and position through the very little I have read about him this evening but he sounds like the target man/striker that I believe our squad has lacked for some years, maybe now I can stop banging on both on here and in the Echo , fingers crossed the youngster will live up to his price tag.

I had what I can only describe as a wierd conversation today, I asked my mate who gives me info on transfers and such things, and the main topic of conversation was Victor Wanyama.

I asked him what had happened about the bid we made and the alleged acceptance of the offer. Here's the explanation given :

He told me that City made an offer (which we know now as it is public) but that talks take place between clubs/agents etc and City officials asked 'if we made an offer of x amount, would that offer be accepted?'

'Yes!'

City then make an official offer in writing but lower than the amount that was discussed.

That offer was rebuffed as we know now as it has been made public. What has not been officially confirmed by either club is what the offer amount was that was rebuffed.

I then turned and said 'but you told me that an offer was made and it has been accepted!'.

Here is the best bit :

"Carl, you got to remember, there is an offer and talks between clubs/agents etc that are discussed and agreed upon then there is an official offer, two very different things, welcome to the Premier League!"

So we made an offer verbally and Celtic, or an agent, agreed that would be accepted but we put in an 'official offer' of less and that was turned down. I don't know if you guys get it or accept it but it spun me out to be honest.

He was still adamant that City are still looking at getting the deal wrapped up.

Head spinning and a tad disillusioned I gave up on asking any more about Wanyama.

Ok, so what is the craic with Tom Ince then?

He told me that no 'official offer' has been made, yet. A lot of emphasis on the yet.

But did go on to say that it was Cardiff's intention to announce a 'big signing' whilst in Malaysia as a PR exercise and Ince was that player but with the trip cancelled that has put the deal off for a few days.

Now personally I don't see Ince as a big signing, in terms of a big name, but the price tag is big but there again we paid a big fee for Cornelius so would that fall into the big signing he was talking about?

In fairness he has always given me good info and the vast majority of names has given me have come to fruition, including the signing of Bellamy the first time around and that went on for 3 months so I do trust he is still giving me good info and hopefully we will see Wanyama and Ince paraded as new signings.

On a personal note, Malky Mackay and his staff keep their cards close to their chests regarding transfers and players they are lining up, more than any other manager we have had previously, and that was no more so evident than today with the signing of Cornelius out of the blue and not a mention of the player anywhere. So respect to Malky on that score as the info is not as readily available as in previous years and regimes.

Yes Carl the leaks seem to have gone for a Burton and whitely so

Good to hear

Any truth in the Kuyt rumours?

With the out of the blue acquisition of Andreas Cornelius for £8.5m today, Malky Mackay has started the spending on creating a squad which will be capable of playing, and hopefully staying, in the Premier League.

I have not looked at any youtube footage of Cornelius and only know his age, height and position through the very little I have read about him this evening but he sounds like the target man/striker that I believe our squad has lacked for some years, maybe now I can stop banging on both on here and in the Echo , fingers crossed the youngster will live up to his price tag.

I had what I can only describe as a wierd conversation today, I asked my mate who gives me info on transfers and such things, and the main topic of conversation was Victor Wanyama.

I asked him what had happened about the bid we made and the alleged acceptance of the offer. Here's the explanation given :

He told me that City made an offer (which we know now as it is public) but that talks take place between clubs/agents etc and City officials asked 'if we made an offer of x amount, would that offer be accepted?'

'Yes!'

City then make an official offer in writing but lower than the amount that was discussed.

That offer was rebuffed as we know now as it has been made public. What has not been officially confirmed by either club is what the offer amount was that was rebuffed.

I then turned and said 'but you told me that an offer was made and it has been accepted!'.

Here is the best bit :

"Carl, you got to remember, there is an offer and talks between clubs/agents etc that are discussed and agreed upon then there is an official offer, two very different things, welcome to the Premier League!"

So we made an offer verbally and Celtic, or an agent, agreed that would be accepted but we put in an 'official offer' of less and that was turned down. I don't know if you guys get it or accept it but it spun me out to be honest.

He was still adamant that City are still looking at getting the deal wrapped up.

Head spinning and a tad disillusioned I gave up on asking any more about Wanyama.

Ok, so what is the craic with Tom Ince then?

He told me that no 'official offer' has been made, yet. A lot of emphasis on the yet.

But did go on to say that it was Cardiff's intention to announce a 'big signing' whilst in Malaysia as a PR exercise and Ince was that player but with the trip cancelled that has put the deal off for a few days.

Now personally I don't see Ince as a big signing, in terms of a big name, but the price tag is big but there again we paid a big fee for Cornelius so would that fall into the big signing he was talking about?

In fairness he has always given me good info and the vast majority of names has given me have come to fruition, including the signing of Bellamy the first time around and that went on for 3 months so I do trust he is still giving me good info and hopefully we will see Wanyama and Ince paraded as new signings.

On a personal note, Malky Mackay and his staff keep their cards close to their chests regarding transfers and players they are lining up, more than any other manager we have had previously, and that was no more so evident than today with the signing of Cornelius out of the blue and not a mention of the player anywhere. So respect to Malky on that score as the info is not as readily available as in previous years and regimes.

ITK

Carl, the pelters you get for things that you pass on that fails to materialise 20 minutes after you post it is insane, respect to you for passing on what your source mentioned despite that!

All makes sense.

You go into a second hand car dealer and there is a price on the windscreen. You confirm that this is the price of the car and then make an offer.

It's the same with players.

Carl, dont feel you have to justify yourself. I am greatful for the info you provide and so are others. More so than they let on.

Lot of in fighting and negativity on this board.

The fact we are talking about such transfer fees gets the juices flowing. Welcome to premier league indeed

All makes sense.

You go into a second hand car dealer and there is a price on the windscreen. You confirm that this is the price of the car and then make an offer.

It's the same with players.

So you are going to bid for a player that you know whose club has accepted a bid for 12million from a rival premier league club.
You know the player has only declined the move based on personal terms.
With all that in mind you bid 10 million some 2million less than the club originally wanted.makes me believe we are not serious about buying the player and he was a smokescreen for other signings

With the out of the blue acquisition of Andreas Cornelius for £8.5m today, Malky Mackay has started the spending on creating a squad which will be capable of playing, and hopefully staying, in the Premier League.

I have not looked at any youtube footage of Cornelius and only know his age, height and position through the very little I have read about him this evening but he sounds like the target man/striker that I believe our squad has lacked for some years, maybe now I can stop banging on both on here and in the Echo , fingers crossed the youngster will live up to his price tag.

I had what I can only describe as a wierd conversation today, I asked my mate who gives me info on transfers and such things, and the main topic of conversation was Victor Wanyama.

I asked him what had happened about the bid we made and the alleged acceptance of the offer. Here's the explanation given :

He told me that City made an offer (which we know now as it is public) but that talks take place between clubs/agents etc and City officials asked 'if we made an offer of x amount, would that offer be accepted?'

'Yes!'

City then make an official offer in writing but lower than the amount that was discussed.

That offer was rebuffed as we know now as it has been made public. What has not been officially confirmed by either club is what the offer amount was that was rebuffed.

I then turned and said 'but you told me that an offer was made and it has been accepted!'.

Here is the best bit :

"Carl, you got to remember, there is an offer and talks between clubs/agents etc that are discussed and agreed upon then there is an official offer, two very different things, welcome to the Premier League!"

So we made an offer verbally and Celtic, or an agent, agreed that would be accepted but we put in an 'official offer' of less and that was turned down. I don't know if you guys get it or accept it but it spun me out to be honest.

He was still adamant that City are still looking at getting the deal wrapped up.

Head spinning and a tad disillusioned I gave up on asking any more about Wanyama.

Ok, so what is the craic with Tom Ince then?

He told me that no 'official offer' has been made, yet. A lot of emphasis on the yet.

But did go on to say that it was Cardiff's intention to announce a 'big signing' whilst in Malaysia as a PR exercise and Ince was that player but with the trip cancelled that has put the deal off for a few days.

Now personally I don't see Ince as a big signing, in terms of a big name, but the price tag is big but there again we paid a big fee for Cornelius so would that fall into the big signing he was talking about?

In fairness he has always given me good info and the vast majority of names has given me have come to fruition, including the signing of Bellamy the first time around and that went on for 3 months so I do trust he is still giving me good info and hopefully we will see Wanyama and Ince paraded as new signings.

On a personal note, Malky Mackay and his staff keep their cards close to their chests regarding transfers and players they are lining up, more than any other manager we have had previously, and that was no more so evident than today with the signing of Cornelius out of the blue and not a mention of the player anywhere. So respect to Malky on that score as the info is not as readily available as in previous years and regimes.

Sounds like your m8 is edging his bets Carl.

This signing wasn't completely out of the blue to those in the know. This deal was known to a few on Monday.

In relation to Wanyama, Celtic have always maintained that they've never accepted a bid from Cardiff. Some fans just presumed thay they had.

Today goes to show that, rather than hang on every word from "updates", it's better just to wait until an announcement is made by the club.

Beep beep beep...

This signing wasn't completely out of the blue to those in the know. This deal was known to a few on Monday.

In relation to Wanyama, Celtic have always maintained that they've never accepted a bid from Cardiff. Some fans just presumed thay they had.

Today goes to show that, rather than hang on every word from "updates", it's better just to wait until an announcement is made by the club.

name them.

Carlccfc wrote
On a personal note, Malky Mackay and his staff keep their cards close to their chests regarding transfers and players they are lining up, more than any other manager we have had previously, and that was no more so evident than today with the signing of Cornelius out of the blue and not a mention of the player anywhere. So respect to Malky on that score as the info is not as readily available as in previous years and regimes.




ForeverBlue wrote

Fair play to Carl for being honest in his post, most things that happen at the club, are in all Carls updates, as to players like Carl says Malky has closed things up and rightly so. But even when Malky thinks he has a player, he himself finds out the next day or even an hour later another club has got him or the players agent is still touting the player around.

name them.

Few on ccmb, including TOBW who posts here.

How would our trip being cancelled put the deal off? That would make things better to put it on

name them.

Few on ccmb, including TOBW who posts here.

nonsense.
people think their itk.

Respect Carl for being honest! Takes a man to do that.

name them.

Few on ccmb, including TOBW who posts here.

where's the link gone.
that proved nothing.

How would our trip being cancelled put the deal off? That would make things better to put it on

My thoughts exactly, people in Malaysia aren't exactly going to know who Tom Ince is, unless it was a Malaysian starlet or a big name that EVERYONE knows then I don't get the logic here

With the out of the blue acquisition of Andreas Cornelius for £8.5m today, Malky Mackay has started the spending on creating a squad which will be capable of playing, and hopefully staying, in the Premier League.

I have not looked at any youtube footage of Cornelius and only know his age, height and position through the very little I have read about him this evening but he sounds like the target man/striker that I believe our squad has lacked for some years, maybe now I can stop banging on both on here and in the Echo , fingers crossed the youngster will live up to his price tag.

I had what I can only describe as a wierd conversation today, I asked my mate who gives me info on transfers and such things, and the main topic of conversation was Victor Wanyama.

I asked him what had happened about the bid we made and the alleged acceptance of the offer. Here's the explanation given :

He told me that City made an offer (which we know now as it is public) but that talks take place between clubs/agents etc and City officials asked 'if we made an offer of x amount, would that offer be accepted?'

'Yes!'

City then make an official offer in writing but lower than the amount that was discussed.

That offer was rebuffed as we know now as it has been made public. What has not been officially confirmed by either club is what the offer amount was that was rebuffed.

I then turned and said 'but you told me that an offer was made and it has been accepted!'.

Here is the best bit :

"Carl, you got to remember, there is an offer and talks between clubs/agents etc that are discussed and agreed upon then there is an official offer, two very different things, welcome to the Premier League!"

So we made an offer verbally and Celtic, or an agent, agreed that would be accepted but we put in an 'official offer' of less and that was turned down. I don't know if you guys get it or accept it but it spun me out to be honest.

He was still adamant that City are still looking at getting the deal wrapped up.

Head spinning and a tad disillusioned I gave up on asking any more about Wanyama.

Ok, so what is the craic with Tom Ince then?

He told me that no 'official offer' has been made, yet. A lot of emphasis on the yet.

But did go on to say that it was Cardiff's intention to announce a 'big signing' whilst in Malaysia as a PR exercise and Ince was that player but with the trip cancelled that has put the deal off for a few days.

Now personally I don't see Ince as a big signing, in terms of a big name, but the price tag is big but there again we paid a big fee for Cornelius so would that fall into the big signing he was talking about?

In fairness he has always given me good info and the vast majority of names has given me have come to fruition, including the signing of Bellamy the first time around and that went on for 3 months so I do trust he is still giving me good info and hopefully we will see Wanyama and Ince paraded as new signings.

On a personal note, Malky Mackay and his staff keep their cards close to their chests regarding transfers and players they are lining up, more than any other manager we have had previously, and that was no more so evident than today with the signing of Cornelius out of the blue and not a mention of the player anywhere. So respect to Malky on that score as the info is not as readily available as in previous years and regimes.

To be fair Carl....there was one poster that mentioned his name over a month ago....so not totally out of the blue.

name them.

Few on ccmb, including TOBW who posts here.

where's the link gone.
that proved nothing.

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.ph ... sg_3802027

name them.

Few on ccmb, including TOBW who posts here.

where's the link gone.
that proved nothing.

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.ph ... sg_3802027

some people are wise after the event.

All makes sense.

You go into a second hand car dealer and there is a price on the windscreen. You confirm that this is the price of the car and then make an offer.

It's the same with players.

Pretty straight forward and simple to understand.


My mother always said to me "the more you try and explain yourself the more you sound like your making excuses, let people talk you know the truth"

Dont see what was head spinning about it, doesn't clear up the "bid accepted" either imo pretty simple difference between an enquiry "would you accept..." and a bid "we offer you..."

Digging out of a hole imo.

I havent got a clue what's happening on the signing front boys!

I knew Cornelius was goona sign a week ago, but was asked not to say anything!

How would our trip being cancelled put the deal off? That would make things better to put it on

My thoughts exactly, people in Malaysia aren't exactly going to know who Tom Ince is, unless it was a Malaysian starlet or a big name that EVERYONE knows then I don't get the logic here

As I said, it was a weird conversation.

Always love these updates! Can not wait for this season to start and another good away trip on Carlos' coaches

CARL

Pm someone with a list of the clubs targets.

End of the transfer window we will compare yours with what we actually sign.

I am convinced you know sweet FA.

The person that told you about wanyama and ince WOULD SURELY of known about cornelius....other people on here refuse to or cant see it..but a few can.

Send a pm..post a screenshot of it at the end of the window.

Bet you get less than 30% of targets.

A lesson here has to be don't write a post titled bid confirmed and accepted when it is bollocks then??

A lesson here has to be don't write a post titled bid confirmed and accepted when it is bollocks then??