Can't we get a huge flag?!

I've travelled a bit in recent years watching football around europe and the one thing that always leaves me frustrated is the atmosphere in the curva's compared to ours.
I honestly believe we need more colour, more passion and a huge flag to cover a block of the canton before each game.
I'm thinking something like every badge we have ever played under or kit in it's different guises as a surround with one big badge in the middle (our badge with the bluebird in the middle with the dragon and the daffodil above it) as a huge centre piece.
Ideally I'd love to see everyone who likes to make a racket in one stand but I do think that this would be a start.

What grounds you been to in Europe mate?

I've done a few mate barca, besiktas, milan, I done the rome derby, fernebahce vs galatasaray and last year I done the classico in madrid.

I've done a few mate barca, besiktas, milan, I done the rome derby, fernebahce vs galatasaray and last year I done the classico in madrid.

I am envious.

Would love to do the Classico.

My mate went to Milan derby this year, with City Gent, and I am gutted I didnt get the coin together to go with.

We need a standing kop behind one of the goals,when and if it is built, they must employ an acoustics architect so the design & building materials amplify the sound instead of soaking it up.

The Classico was shit mate, I wouldn't bother. I was in the away end with the Barca fans and they didnt have any lads whatsoever. We even went up the same escalators with the madrid fans! I left with 20 minutes to go.

The Turkish ones were the best by a mile, absolutely insane!
Besiktas is the loudest ground I've been to by some considerable margin.

We need a standing kop behind one of the goals,when and if it is built, they must employ an acoustics architect so the design & building materials amplify the sound instead of soaking it up.

I totally agree mate

The Classico was shit mate, I wouldn't bother. I was in the away end with the Barca fans and they didnt have any lads whatsoever. We even went up the same escalators with the madrid fans! I left with 20 minutes to go.

The Turkish ones were the best by a mile, absolutely insane!
Besiktas is the loudest ground I've been to by some considerable margin.

My barber is a Turk, Fenerbache fan, he said the whole match day experience out there is something else.

He said they go up the gorund several hours before kick off to get the atmosphere going.

It was an experience I'll never forget mate. We didnt have any tickets when we got to the ground 6 ours before kick off and it was f*cking mayhem. There were about 40k people outside the ground.
I tried to see if I could spot any touts but it was too busy so I asked some dodgy looking gypos. They wanted me to get in a car with them and go out of town to get the ticket but I'm not that green.
anyway in no time they multiplying like f**k and theyre heavies were everywhere.
I told my mate to keep hold of the money and keep his distance while I dealt with them. A f*cking hour later someone turns up with the tickets but I noticed the print was smudged and thought f**k that.
Anyway cut a long story short I managed to shake them off and ended buying tickets off a couple of students for £130.
I went into the ground straightaway cos I wanted to make sure the tickets were legit. I got in 4 hours before kick off and it was f*cking banging in there.
they booed the galatasaray player when they cane out to look at the pitch from the moment they came out til they went in half an hour later!
Then they booed the refs for another half an hour.
they were throwing seats on the pitch when galatasaray scored and the were fighting the police every 5 minutes!
Absolutely off the scale mate.

Sounds quite an experience

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

I'm probably ignorant here, Are the italians dressing now? when did that start? What footwear? Have they copied the british casual look?

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

I'm probably ignorant here, Are the italians dressing now? when did that start? What footwear? Have they copied the british casual look?

Are you for real?

The italians have always been cool as f**k and certainly no need for them to copy the british

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

I'm probably ignorant here, Are the italians dressing now? when did that start? What footwear? Have they copied the british casual look?

Are you for real?

The italians have always been cool as f**k and certainly no need for them to copy the british

Not the ones i've seen, not at the football. fuckin nazi-skinheads the last i saw What labels do they wear, what footwear? 3 stripe? ...Any one remember those nazis wearing bomber jackets in Cardiff for Wales/ Italy?

No they haven't copied the British look mate.
They seemed to like the high gloss clothing with plenty of moncler jackets on display.
I know stone island is on a bit of the wane over here but there some lovely stone island jackets out there.
the irriducibili have strong links with luis vuitton too.

It was an experience I'll never forget mate. We didnt have any tickets when we got to the ground 6 ours before kick off and it was f*cking mayhem. There were about 40k people outside the ground.
I tried to see if I could spot any touts but it was too busy so I asked some dodgy looking gypos. They wanted me to get in a car with them and go out of town to get the ticket but I'm not that green.
anyway in no time they multiplying like f**k and theyre heavies were everywhere.
I told my mate to keep hold of the money and keep his distance while I dealt with them. A f*cking hour later someone turns up with the tickets but I noticed the print was smudged and thought f**k that.
Anyway cut a long story short I managed to shake them off and ended buying tickets off a couple of students for £130.
I went into the ground straightaway cos I wanted to make sure the tickets were legit. I got in 4 hours before kick off and it was f*cking banging in there.
they booed the galatasaray player when they cane out to look at the pitch from the moment they came out til they went in half an hour later!
Then they booed the refs for another half an hour.
they were throwing seats on the pitch when galatasaray scored and the were fighting the police every 5 minutes!
Absolutely off the scale mate.

f**k the reds, sounds like we should start running coaches to the continent once a fortnight.

No they haven't copied the British look mate.
They seemed to like the high gloss clothing with plenty of moncler jackets on display.
I know stone island is on a bit of the wane over here but there some lovely stone island jackets out there.
the irriducibili have strong links with luis vuitton too.

They copied us then. I knew it


What is their footwear? If it's sports gear i know for a fact they lifted our look.

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

I'm probably ignorant here, Are the italians dressing now? when did that start? What footwear? Have they copied the british casual look?

Are you for real?

The italians have always been cool as f**k and certainly no need for them to copy the british

Not the ones i've seen, not at the football. fuckin nazi-skinheads the last i saw What labels do they wear, what footwear? 3 stripe? ...Any one remember those nazis wearing bomber jackets in Cardiff for Wales/ Italy?

Where do you think Stone island, CP Company, Massimo Osti come from?

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

I'm probably ignorant here, Are the italians dressing now? when did that start? What footwear? Have they copied the british casual look?

Are you for real?

The italians have always been cool as f**k and certainly no need for them to copy the british

Not the ones i've seen, not at the football. fuckin nazi-skinheads the last i saw What labels do they wear, what footwear? 3 stripe? ...Any one remember those nazis wearing bomber jackets in Cardiff for Wales/ Italy?

Where do you think Stone island, CP Company, Massimo Osti come from?

I wasn't sure i always bought from that unofficial outlet in Bristol and they cut out the label

Nah i knew they were italian labels but in terms of dressing for football. they were miles behind our culture. I'd love to see some photos of these kents at the game. i bet it's a lifted look.

Nah mate I didnt see many wearing nike air max hahaha.
I didn't recognise a lot of the brands but tge footwear was generally black and high gloss in the style of cruyffs or hugo boss trainers.

We copied their labels. They wops were wearing Moncler, SI.etc long before the British.

Italy is good cos they got the whole football culture thing going on with dressers etc and the undercover police are the best dressers of the lot.
In Turkey it's just a bunch of scruffy cunts trying to kill each other! Hahaha

I'm probably ignorant here, Are the italians dressing now? when did that start? What footwear? Have they copied the british casual look?

Are you for real?

The italians have always been cool as f**k and certainly no need for them to copy the british

Not the ones i've seen, not at the football. fuckin nazi-skinheads the last i saw What labels do they wear, what footwear? 3 stripe? ...Any one remember those nazis wearing bomber jackets in Cardiff for Wales/ Italy?

Where do you think Stone island, CP Company, Massimo Osti come from?

I wasn't sure i always bought from that unofficial outlet in Bristol and they cut out the label

Nah i knew they were italian labels but in terms of dressing for football. they were miles behind our culture. I'd love to see some photos of these kents at the game. i bet it's a lifted look.

I dont think the italians need lessons off us on how to dress mate.

Lakey, what was the name of Italian casuals in the 80's? I read a good article in the Pica Post, the Oi Polloi, newsletter.

Lakey, what was the name of Italian casuals in the 80's? I read a good article in the Pica Post, the Oi Polloi, newsletter.

Found it. Its the Paninero culture. Not so much football hooligans but a dressing culture, sort of like our mods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paninaro

Enjoy

Lakey, what was the name of Italian casuals in the 80's? I read a good article in the Pica Post, the Oi Polloi, newsletter.

Found it. Its the Paninero culture. Not so much football hooligans but a dressing culture, sort of like our mods.

Cheers interesting write up on wikkipedia.


"The cornerstones of Paninaro fashion were: Timberland boots, Sebago or Vans deck shoes, Argyle and Burlington socks, Armani jeans rolled up to ankle height, El Charro belts with Texan or western-style big buckles, Best Company sweatshirts, Schott flyer's leather Jackets, bulky Moncler jackets, and brightly colored Invicta rucksacks. Designer Olmes Carretti collaborated with the British sailing brand Henri Lloyd to further develop their iconic "Consort" sailing jacket so favored by the Paninari."

El Charro belts with Texan or western-style big buckles

I still don't think they were on a par with us, Not the same machismo, football links or relationship with violence, there are similarities in the consumerist non-idealistic apolitical angle. Although northerners like Phil Thornton insist the scene wasn't about consumerism/social climbing. Either way western-style big buckle belts aren't big nor clever

Plenty not clever about the 80's not least mullets and moustahces

I dont think the italians need lessons off us on how to dress mate.[/quote]

Thats like saying all british lads dress in alexanda mcqueen because he's british. I''ve not travelled for football much but Trust me the italian FOOTBALL mob i saw in Cardiff were fully paid up, 1970's nazi skinheads, Only our skin heads were better dressed.

Plenty not clever about the 80's not least mullets and moustahces

When in doubt, Blame the scousers

I dont think the italians need lessons off us on how to dress mate.

Thats like saying all british lads dress in alexanda mcqueen because he's british. I''ve not travelled for football much but Trust me the italian FOOTBALL mob i saw in Cardiff were fully paid up, 1970's nazi skinheads, Only our skin heads were better dressed.[/quote]

Did you stand by the turnstile and watch every single one of them walk in

Thats like someone saying the seen a load of Valley Commandos in their double denim up at Chelsea and saying all Cardiff dress like Shakin Stevens