Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:15 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:26 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:39 pm
reverendjames wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
Be careful you will upset some of the multiculturists on here
Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:40 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:52 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:25 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:41 pm
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:01 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
Very true my friend.
The problem is Choudary knows exactly how to manipulate freedom of speech laws. If he makes his rants in Arabic then he can almost say what he likes as the law says the offensive remarks have to be made within earshot of someone who would find them offensive or feel distressed.
Even if he says them in English, providing he is preaching to the converted he can again get away with it.
Believe it or not the most famous testing of this law came from Nick Griffin and the BNP a couple of years ago. Griffin was secretly taped by Panorama saying that "Asian's would do for your families"
In the resulting court case NG was found 'not guilty' because he was found to be "preaching to the converted"
Probably a review of the law is required, but unfortunately that would upset the Liberal lobby.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:11 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
Very true my friend.
The problem is Choudary knows exactly how to manipulate freedom of speech laws. If he makes his rants in Arabic then he can almost say what he likes as the law says the offensive remarks have to be made within earshot of someone who would find them offensive or feel distressed.
Even if he says them in English, providing he is preaching to the converted he can again get away with it.
Believe it or not the most famous testing of this law came from Nick Griffin and the BNP a couple of years ago. Griffin was secretly taped by Panorama saying that "Asian's would do for your families"
In the resulting court case NG was found 'not guilty' because he was found to be "preaching to the converted"
Probably a review of the law is required, but unfortunately that would upset the Liberal lobby.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:23 pm
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:34 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:47 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Hilaroious. find me a few muslims arested for hate crime against anyone. it don happen muslims are protected and if u
cant see that then you part of the problem. dead easy how to get rid of the BNP, EDL, Choudary AND the UAF. Get the
same muslim youths who attack the EDL to attack anjem choudary and muslim radicals. as soon as that hapens the radical
muslims will have nowhere to hide same as the BNP. why don it happen?if these wankers (inc the UAF) will attack white
extremists why wont they attack muslim or black ones or is fascism rascism and nazism only done by whites?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:51 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Hilaroious. find me a few muslims arested for hate crime against anyone. it don happen muslims are protected and if u
cant see that then you part of the problem. dead easy how to get rid of the BNP, EDL, Choudary AND the UAF. Get the
same muslim youths who attack the EDL to attack anjem choudary and muslim radicals. as soon as that hapens the radical
muslims will have nowhere to hide same as the BNP. why don it happen?if these wankers (inc the UAF) will attack white
extremists why wont they attack muslim or black ones or is fascism rascism and nazism only done by whites?
whats hilarious about it? he states Islam is protected by law specifically, so which act? I cant find one, he must know surely
I couldnt give you records of how many muslims have been arrested for hate crimes but im not part of any problem all im asking for is what act states that Islam is specifically protected.
I dont like any extremist group but as long as they dont break the law they are free to say whatever they want, or do you want laws that state you cant question the government because thats what your asking, thats a loss of your liberty, or do you want laws that say only certain sectors of society can question the government thats fascism?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:53 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:54 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:58 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Hilaroious. find me a few muslims arested for hate crime against anyone. it don happen muslims are protected and if u
cant see that then you part of the problem. dead easy how to get rid of the BNP, EDL, Choudary AND the UAF. Get the
same muslim youths who attack the EDL to attack anjem choudary and muslim radicals. as soon as that hapens the radical
muslims will have nowhere to hide same as the BNP. why don it happen?if these wankers (inc the UAF) will attack white
extremists why wont they attack muslim or black ones or is fascism rascism and nazism only done by whites?
whats hilarious about it? he states Islam is protected by law specifically, so which act? I cant find one, he must know surely
I couldnt give you records of how many muslims have been arrested for hate crimes but im not part of any problem all im asking for is what act states that Islam is specifically protected.
I dont like any extremist group but as long as they dont break the law they are free to say whatever they want, or do you want laws that state you cant question the government because thats what your asking, thats a loss of your liberty, or do you want laws that say only certain sectors of society can question the government thats fascism?
thats fair enuf if u believe free speech for all so EDL/BNP etc all ok to march too then isi?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:00 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:02 pm
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
You haven't looked hard enough then. If it's broken by both sides then why is it that you never ever see a Mulsim in court like you see hundreds of non muslims?
Don't you find that rather strange?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:04 pm
Xcasual wrote:Behead those that insult Islam.Remember that march and there was even some tw*t dressed as a suicide bomber
The police just let them go by ,the next day the majority of Britain was in uproar about it. Then the police started arresting those peaceful Muslims
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How far would the Edl/Bnp have got waving placards saying shoot all Muslim extremists or hang them etc. I think the Muslim extremists get away with it more than the other lot Edl etc. Just my opinion
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:06 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Hilaroious. find me a few muslims arested for hate crime against anyone. it don happen muslims are protected and if u
cant see that then you part of the problem. dead easy how to get rid of the BNP, EDL, Choudary AND the UAF. Get the
same muslim youths who attack the EDL to attack anjem choudary and muslim radicals. as soon as that hapens the radical
muslims will have nowhere to hide same as the BNP. why don it happen?if these wankers (inc the UAF) will attack white
extremists why wont they attack muslim or black ones or is fascism rascism and nazism only done by whites?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:06 pm
Yasser in Cardiff wrote:I see the NF are out in force today. I can't believe people are either so stupid to believe this, normally I wouldn't stoop to replying to some of these comments but here goes....
Firstly, no the press is not "scared of Islam" (unless you are particularly one-eyed), if you bother to look there are countless anti-Muslim and anti-Islamic articles out there (you might wanna have look at some of the comments here on this board). Wake the f**k up and read the articles all over the place insulting Muslims and Islam, there is no conspiracy - some people just chose what to "see" and what not to "see". Also it's not against the law to insult Islam (yet another lie).
Secondly, one of the soldiers today was done for sexual assault on a little boy (i.e. pulling his hand towards his penis) - he was fined - anywhere else and he would have been imprisoned. He was filmed doing this amongst his colleagues and admitted guilt. Does this reflect on the whole Army?? Of course it doesn't. I'm sick of saying this but Anjam Choudary is NOT Islam, he is one man, he is NOT (I repeat NOT) a scholar or student of any standing or respect. He is simply a loud mouth attention seeker who gets far too much publicity and if he were to suddenly disappear nobody would shed any tears.
Thirdly - Islam goes back over 1400 years and has over 1.5 BILLION followers world-wide, Islam for those who bother to search for the truth is beautiful and is not restricted to a few loud mouth rabble rousers, Islamic Spain inspired the Renaissance which lifted the West Europeans out of their self proclaimed "Dark Ages" - Islamic universities were the first in the world teaching Mathematics, Science, Medicine and Astronomy. Amongst the learned and knowledgeable people, Islam is highly respected and recognised for it's massive contribution to civilisation. Please note that many so called Muslims may behave in ways out of synch with Islam -but that is their problem as individuals or cultures.
Fourthly the prison population of the UK is NOT a 3rd Muslim, pls see this link( http://oi48.tinypic.com/5uld0g.jpg ) from 2010 - prison population is 72% white, 3.5% mixed, 7.1% ASIAN (not necessarily Muslim) , 13.7% black and 1.4% chinese and others.
Anyway I'm outta here, I'm bored with this now.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:11 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:16 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:21 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:whats hapening to stop white extreme groups in uk? white and asians and everyone else combine to attack them
everywhere why do they not attack radical islamists its a seriuos question. who gave choudry a free pass to say what
he like?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:27 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:28 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
So tell me Chief what other religion needs protecting ? Which is the most violent religion ? Well Islam is deffo the most violent and fought over around. True the moderate Muslim is the most peaceful ever but they are not the majority around the world.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:33 pm
Yasser in Cardiff wrote:I see the NF are out in force today. I can't believe people are either so stupid to believe this, normally I wouldn't stoop to replying to some of these comments but here goes....
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:35 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Brighton & hove Albion wrote:bluelikeyou wrote:ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html
He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.
I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?
If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.
what act are you banging on about tell me that makes insulting islam specifically a criminal offence because I cant find it.
the only one I can find that meets your criteria that I can find is the racial and religious hatred act of 2006, which to be fair is broken constantly by both sides of the coin and doesnt give special protections to Islam it protects all religion.
So tell me Chief what other religion needs protecting ? Which is the most violent religion ? Well Islam is deffo the most violent and fought over around. True the moderate Muslim is the most peaceful ever but they are not the majority around the world.
not what im asking, I want the name of an act
does Islam need specific protections in this country? I dont know ask a muslim
do you think they do? if the answer is yes doesnt say a lot for our society that cant differentiate between a religion and political terrorists who use religion as a lure.
all I want is the name of an act because if it does exist, as a Catholic I will write to my mp asking why my religion isnt awarded the saorries chief me protections.
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:37 pm
bluelikeyou wrote: if the asian youths were attacking choudry every time
he opened his mouth hed be gone. finished. no platform. they attack white extremists why not islamist ones? fair question?
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:47 pm
Willy the Wombat wrote:Yasser in Cardiff wrote:I see the NF are out in force today. I can't believe people are either so stupid to believe this, normally I wouldn't stoop to replying to some of these comments but here goes....
Second attempt to paste this, sorry I've cut your post short Yasser but as a muslim you may understand. This is from a very good friend in Turkey, I beg all not to put this on social network sites or the lefty site as it will result in this lady losing her job or possibly her life.
"Turkey has woken up from its sleep during the AKP’s fascist regime.
Founded in 1923, Turkey is a secular republic. Since 1946, it has maintained a multi-party democracy. The AKP (A.K.A. the Justice and Development Party) is an Islamist party elected in 2002 following the economic crisis the previous year. At first, its movements against human rights and freedom of speech were subtle. Now, they’re anything but.
Five days ago, a group of protestors started a demonstration in Gezi Park, in the middle of Istanbul’s European center, Taksim. The AKP plans to destroy the park and build a shopping mall. Two days ago, the police attacked protestors who were trying to save the trees in the park. The violence did not end there, and Istanbul started to gather in Taksim. The police occupied all of the streets that end at Taksim in the afternoon. My dad, a friend of mine and I somehow made it to Taksim and started waiting for the larger group that was in Istiklal Avenue to enter the square. The group in Istiklal consisted of tens of thousands of people, and they managed to push the police back towards the square. The police attacked the protestors with gas bombs and water cannons. As of now, one man has been murdered by a water cannon with four others dead due to gas bombs and panzers.
In the square, while we were waiting in a restaurant that had opened its doors to protestors, since that was pretty much the only space we could breath in, the police suddenly approached and threw gas bombs into the restaurant and chased the crowd in front of the restaurant into the place with batons. This is not a story I heard and am telling secondhand; this is what happened to me last night.
The battle in Taksim lasted until 3 p.m. today. At 3:30 p.m. the government announced that the police has been ordered to step back. They did not actually step back but the gas fire ceased for a while. Around 4 p.m., millions gathered in Gezi Park. Taksim was filled with people. There were no policemen, but we suffered from gas bombs occasionally thrown from a helicopter.
Around 8 p.m. things got ugly again. Since the police had left Taksim, they moved to Besiktas, which is one of the European centers on Turkey’s Bosphorus shore. An actual battle started in Besiktas. Police has threw gas bombs in Bahcesehir University and Mimar Sinan University and State Conservatory. The security guard of Mimar Sinan, who I know personally, has been hospitalized; his face was destroyed by a bullet. The question is whether it was a plastic or an actual bullet. The answer is what we fear.
There is one video taken in the capital city Ankara that shows one policeman in between several protestors. He fears the protestors and wants to go back to his fellow policemen. He is obviously not comfortable being the minority within several meters. To split the crowd and run, he fires his gun three times. Not entirely into the air but a bit higher than a standard height person. One protestor falls to the ground with the gunfire. Were those three real bullets? Or the actual question is: are plastic bullets any different than real bullets from almost no distance?
Around 10 p.m., I heard that one of my high school friends was detained. He arrived home safely after spending around 14 hours in custody. We know that there are 939 people still under custody as of now. Their crime is having protested. Protest is our constitutional right, found in Article 34 of Turkey’s constitution.
Right now, thousands still are on their way to Besiktas. The same is happening in Ankara, Izmir, Antalya, Edirne, Mersin, Eskisehir, Adana, Kayseri, Konya and in many more cities. If you know a bit about Turkey, you will realize that this list not just of relatively liberal cities, but also very conservative ones like Konya and Kayseri. Furthermore, demonstrations have happened throughout today in San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Chicago, Paris, Munich, Oxford, and Madrid, among other locations.
As of now, 53 people are officially injured, but looking at how many were and are out there, that number is ridiculously low. Additionally, the police continue to gas bomb the places that hold many injured people, endangering their lives, such as the universities in Besiktas that I listed above. (Unofficially, number of injured people is more than 500, and deaths are at least 20)
Pharmacies are giving out gas masks and medicine for free. Lawyers and doctors are offering their services for free as well.
This is not happening because trees were being destroyed. This is because we have been stripped of the right to talk, to protest. This is because our journalists are in jail. This is because the prime minister still says his government does not care what we do and they will continue with the Gezi Project. This is because people are in custody because they used their right to protest. This is because the government made the police attack the Gezi protesters.
The government is not serving its people, it’s killing them.
This is what’s happening in Turkey. I would not call it Turkish Spring: we don’t need revolution. This is Turkey, taking its secular democracy back. No more corruption, no more radical Islamism, no more FASCISM!"
Secular Democracy!
Religion has no place in modern society, if folk want to go a place and sing songs, praise the lord allan and his mates then thats up to them. The fear in Turkey is that left wing Islam, the literal interpretation will take hold, something Kemal Ataturk saw when he was instrumental in removing religion from government through the constitution. That is what the Turkish people have taken to the streets in their thousands about, not fuckwit "dogs on string" characters but professional people trying to preserve a society where those that believed in fairy tales were treated with the same contempt as those that don't.
The movement is growing hour by hour, moderate and right wing muslims are joining as they see their freedoms being eroded by a bunch of left wing (or fascists, more or less the same) islamic idiots. Women are particularly concerned especially those with daughters, they have been for a while now, ten years or so.
Again please may I ask that the quoted email is not copied to other sites, particularly Mikes site as Splott Adolf and his cohorts could cause a lot of shite.