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Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 10:57 pm

They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 10:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit

How gullibale are we?

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The first time ever over the rebrand issue, I agree.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:01 pm

The fact they offered the fans the ability to change the red shorts is surely sign of good intentions? They could have changed it without any of the fans opinions, or not at all...

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:03 pm

MrEvans wrote:The fact they offered the fans the ability to change the red shorts is surely sign of good intentions? They could have changed it without any of the fans opinions, or not at all...


Sorry chap but you and many many others need to wake up.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:05 pm

Shame we couldn't have be asked to vote on things 18mths ago then we would'nt be where we are now. We'd still be blue and all would be good

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:05 pm

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?


Annis maybe all our fans should choose blue shorts i don't care how it looks just start getting our famous blue back bit by bit! :ayatollah:

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:06 pm

You actually think this is all part of a plan - if VT wanted all red kit we would be having an all red kit no matter what, there would not be a vote on the matter. Can't believe how people think there's an ulterior motive behing everything Tan does. Don't agree with everything he's done but must admit he's put this club in a better state than i can ever remember and i started going in 1960's

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:12 pm

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?


Annis you are dead right. Bluebirds Unite and now fans are voting on a choice of a red kit. Club stance will be a kit voted for by the fans!

They are totally taking the piss. Fans should abstain from voting in protest.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:17 pm

steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.


Simple really Steve what's going on. Unbelievable to think some of us have fallen for this.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:20 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.


Simple really Steve what's going on. Unbelievable to think some of us have fallen for this.

Bakes I was one of the people who believed we were red or dead but I can never agree with the way we have been bullied and quite frankly this latest move is taking the piss out of fans in my opinion.
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Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:21 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.


Simple really Steve what's going on. Unbelievable to think some of us have fallen for this.


Nothing much else we can do which is the truth.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:26 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.


Simple really Steve what's going on. Unbelievable to think some of us have fallen for this.


Nothing much else we can do which is the truth.


Ever heard of the saying "Its best to do nothing"?

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:29 pm

Why don't people wake up and smell the coffee, tab owns CCfc well virtually, he calls the shots not the fans, you don't see tescos customers opting on logos or them being consulted on logo changes or slogans or products Cardiff city football club is a business and business decisions are made by the owners and board of directors or shareholders, tan doesn't give a f**k if 10,000 fans leave as there's another 10000 waiting to jump in the CCfc bandwagon, people are buying red and still filling the stadium until that changes why would tan even care, wait until the club is floated on the stock exchange and my advice would be to buy as many fan based shares as possible that we'll you'll get your say other than that you can moan all you want about red about tan etc but f**k all will change you either put up and leave as your devastated by it all, reluctantly support as you love CCfc more than a colour or just damn right love all the changes, moaning wot change a thing just Create a negative atmosphere which will affect on field next season decide what you are deal with it and support the club you love

Over and out

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:32 pm

I give up - part of a plan so that VT can say the fans voted for the kit, you must be joking surely. Whatever colour shorts are voted for we all know the truth and it's simply we should be in blue -this option to vote is simply a response as a result of the outcry over the 2 tone red kit -no more no less. It was just a PR disaster, can't believe people are trying to make up all these sub plots.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:32 pm

steve davies wrote:Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.


I've done a couple of polls on my Cardiff City facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/CARDIFFCITYF00TBALLCLUB

First with the clubs 4 choices, and the overwhelming choice was the black shorts option with 69% opting for that.

Second with a mocked up blue kit and the clubs 4 choices, unsurprisingly 89% went with the blue option over the other 4 :lol:

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:41 pm

I think all this shows is that the owners don't care what colour the shorts are as long as the shirt is red.
We seem to be under the impression that Tan calls all the shots. Since Tan does not have 50% yet someone else is voting with him...

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:43 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
MrEvans wrote:The fact they offered the fans the ability to change the red shorts is surely sign of good intentions? They could have changed it without any of the fans opinions, or not at all...


Sorry chap but you and many many others need to wake up.


I think the dinosaurs waiting for the kit turning back blue need to wake up :lol:

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:43 pm

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?


Annis I started this thread, similar to what you are going on about? Can you shed any light? Things need to change now ready for next season because us fans need to have our opinions heard and some sort of compromise once and for all...

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114150

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:44 pm

alexc wrote:I think all this shows is that the owners don't care what colour the shorts are as long as the shirt is red.
We seem to be under the impression that Tan calls all the shots. Since Tan does not have 50% yet someone else is voting with him...


Its in their interest only of the other % that they stick with Tan.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:50 pm

Haven't voted, and won't be voting either. If our kit isn't blue, then I really couldn't care less what shade of red they chose, or what colour shorts they wear.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Thu May 30, 2013 11:57 pm

OddBalls wrote:Haven't voted, and won't be voting either. If our kit isn't blue, then I really couldn't care less what shade of red they chose, or what colour shorts they wear.


Here here. :ayatollah:

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 12:53 am

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?



Agreed & they should have consulted the fans beforehand they have tarnished our clubs standing yet again,Tan is nothing a dictator with no morals a selfish egotistical man.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 1:02 am

This ship has sailed. 12 months too late to do anything about the rebrand.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 1:57 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.


Simple really Steve what's going on. Unbelievable to think some of us have fallen for this.


When are people going to realize that Tan is not some stupid foreigner but a very astute bloke who can run rings round most of us.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 3:22 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Why don't people wake up and smell the coffee, tab owns CCfc well virtually, he calls the shots not the fans, you don't see tescos customers opting on logos or them being consulted on logo changes or slogans or products Cardiff city football club is a business and business decisions are made by the owners and board of directors or shareholders, tan doesn't give a f**k if 10,000 fans leave as there's another 10000 waiting to jump in the CCfc bandwagon, people are buying red and still filling the stadium until that changes why would tan even care, wait until the club is floated on the stock exchange and my advice would be to buy as many fan based shares as possible that we'll you'll get your say other than that you can moan all you want about red about tan etc but f**k all will change you either put up and leave as your devastated by it all, reluctantly support as you love CCfc more than a colour or just damn right love all the changes, moaning wot change a thing just Create a negative atmosphere which will affect on field next season decide what you are deal with it and support the club you love

Over and out


wrong. tesco got marketing teams. yes the board and they design people come up with logos etc but
everythin done at tesco is done to maxmise sales. so if tan was like tesco we would be playin in blue
cos blue would be the best seller

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 6:11 am

All the people that voted have just endorsed last years colours-brilliant :lol: own goal for the blue brigade.

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 6:27 am

bluelikeyou wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Why don't people wake up and smell the coffee, tab owns CCfc well virtually, he calls the shots not the fans, you don't see tescos customers opting on logos or them being consulted on logo changes or slogans or products Cardiff city football club is a business and business decisions are made by the owners and board of directors or shareholders, tan doesn't give a f**k if 10,000 fans leave as there's another 10000 waiting to jump in the CCfc bandwagon, people are buying red and still filling the stadium until that changes why would tan even care, wait until the club is floated on the stock exchange and my advice would be to buy as many fan based shares as possible that we'll you'll get your say other than that you can moan all you want about red about tan etc but f**k all will change you either put up and leave as your devastated by it all, reluctantly support as you love CCfc more than a colour or just damn right love all the changes, moaning wot change a thing just Create a negative atmosphere which will affect on field next season decide what you are deal with it and support the club you love

Over and out


wrong. tesco got marketing teams. yes the board and they design people come up with logos etc but
everythin done at tesco is done to maxmise sales. so if tan was like tesco we would be playin in blue
cos blue would be the best seller


Well your wrong there mate, sales were the highest In the club shop they have been in years last year so the blue kit doesn't mean much, the club raises revenue much differently to tesco and as merchandise isn't a massive contribution to revenue tan doesn't care his market is Asia mainly china and Malaysia that's where the money will
Come from eventually the small amount made in the club shop is a drop in the ocean compared to sponsorship that can come from Asia, every game will be a sell out next season so the club is maximising its revenue in that respect as well, so does binny tan care whether we hate blue nope not a bit whilst bums are on seats and merchandise is selling he couldn't give two fucks about the kit colour and quite frankly neither do I, I support CCfc not the blues

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 6:39 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:All the people that voted have just endorsed last years colours-brilliant :lol: own goal for the blue brigade.


Exactly half the blue brigade aren't even bothered what colour the kit is they are merely sheep following the views of others so they don't lose face deep down 75% of them don't give a shit, they just spout endless bollocks on here about tan and the rebrand, say they'd rather play in league two then 2minutes later are begging for players like gomis, reality check players like gomis don't play in league 2 on £1k a week, clubs don't get stadium expansions or new training facilities when they are £100m in debt and close to being wound up, never had it so good and if all this means playing in red not blue and a new chapter in CCfc history taking us forward then so be it, our history is riddled with failure and finally we achieve something a dream many CCfc have had for years and everyone is blinkered by tradition, what tradition a blue kit, a kit isn't a tradition it's not an identity either the club is the identity blue is merely a colour we adopted after the club rebranded from riverside, yes I like blue as its what I'm used to I'm also used to paying £2.85 a pint in my local how that has changed life is full of change, change is needed to move this club forward and has been needed for a long time and fair play to vinny for having the bollocks to do it

Re: Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

Fri May 31, 2013 7:02 am

Forever Blue wrote:They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?


I, like 99% of our supporters were expecting a Red kit for the coming season, so we had all prepared ourselves anyway? Many would have wished for some kind of concession like a little blue added or a firm return of the blue away strip, but I wasn't holding my breath. What we got was a poorly designed kit, in terms of design, with different shades of Red that doesn't work to the actual style of the kit that looks so cheap. I don't think any of our fans look at having black shorts as any kind of victory, just another example of how unprofessional people at the club are.