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EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 6:09 am

I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 6:30 am

This will be the start of some serious shit to come i feel, theres going to be a 1000s there by the weekend going through this i think :shock:

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 7:23 am

bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483




The attack was sickening but this bunch of cretins are hardly the "people."

They are a bunch of tossers who were are following their past like minded bretheren. The British Union of Fascists, National Front. B.N.P. and the Loyalists from Scotland and N.I.

By their songs and dress you know they are football hooligans or rather were as they were rightly weeded out from Football. If this is the bunch who by you saying "have had enough" and deserve a fist pump then you're as ignorant as they are.

Do you really think they support the forces who have been maimed and wounded? They look as if they couldn't afford their next pint.They are using the soldiers as a front to get publicity.

What would these morons do exactly.......hunt down a "muslim" or as they said in the video a "Paki ****" and show what tough guys they are?

The police do not need retards to help them......a female police officer shot both who were responsible.

In fairness mate I think you just enjoy the idea of violence.....you seem quite excited about it. Now that is sad.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 7:57 am

The EDL are a different side to the same coin as the perpetrators yesterday. If you can't see that then you are a fuckwit. Seriously, anyone supporting their methods are condoning other 'extremist' methods. Yet, the people doing so are too stupid to see.

Do you honestly think that you can pick and choose extremism? Or claim that one extremist is better than the other?

I'll let you all get on with it as some of the views that will be posted below are bound to be retarded. :wave:

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:29 am

EDL are hypocrites, defence league when they go out attacking and their basically like extremists theirself.

Unemployed retards.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:35 am

McPhailS wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483




The attack was sickening but this bunch of cretins are hardly the "people."

They are a bunch of tossers who were are following their past like minded bretheren. The British Union of Fascists, National Front. B.N.P. and the Loyalists from Scotland and N.I.

By their songs and dress you know they are football hooligans or rather were as they were rightly weeded out from Football. If this is the bunch who by you saying "have had enough" and deserve a fist pump then you're as ignorant as they are.

Do you really think they support the forces who have been maimed and wounded? They look as if they couldn't afford their next pint.They are using the soldiers as a front to get publicity.

What would these morons do exactly.......hunt down a "muslim" or as they said in the video a "Paki ****" and show what tough guys they are?

The police do not need retards to help them......a female police officer shot both who were responsible.

In fairness mate I think you just enjoy the idea of violence.....you seem quite excited about it. Now that is sad.



A female police officer shot them? Well I suppose you can say that but if she had "shot " them as instructed they would both be dead. 2 officers fired 6 shots, and basically missed their targets. She should not have opened fire unless she believed herself or the public were in danger, she should then shoot to eradicate the danger (shoot to kill), but she f***ing missed. How safe are we on our streets? She is probably part of our token system (women, blacks, gays etc in jobs), instead of getting jobs on ability to actually do them.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:35 am

tcblue wrote:The EDL are a different side to the same coin as the perpetrators yesterday. If you can't see that then you are a fuckwit. Seriously, anyone supporting their methods are condoning other 'extremist' methods. Yet, the people doing so are too stupid to see.

Do you honestly think that you can pick and choose extremism? Or claim that one extremist is better than the other?

I'll let you all get on with it as some of the views that will be posted below are bound to be retarded. :wave:


Really? Because last time I checked the EDL didn't have much of a following in muslim countries? Unlike fanatics in this country?

Maybe I'm wrong so show me the last time an EDL member hacked someone up in the middle east?

Now personally I feel all religion should be outlawed but that's not going to happen so how about just stop alienating your own people for the sake of others?

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:42 am

Anthonyb_ccfc wrote:
tcblue wrote:The EDL are a different side to the same coin as the perpetrators yesterday. If you can't see that then you are a fuckwit. Seriously, anyone supporting their methods are condoning other 'extremist' methods. Yet, the people doing so are too stupid to see.

Do you honestly think that you can pick and choose extremism? Or claim that one extremist is better than the other?

I'll let you all get on with it as some of the views that will be posted below are bound to be retarded. :wave:


Really? Because last time I checked the EDL didn't have much of a following in muslim countries? Unlike fanatics in this country?

Maybe I'm wrong so show me the last time an EDL member hacked someone up in the middle east?

Now personally I feel all religion should be outlawed but that's not going to happen so how about just stop alienating your own people for the sake of others?


I guess the general consensus is that 2 wrongs don't make a right and only a likewise mongo would choose the EDL as a vehicle to express the outrage felt by most normal people.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:49 am

Why did the police attack them? The police did nothing in Luton when muslims were marching and threatening to burn the police.
Do we have selective policing in this country or is it that some people/communities are above the law?

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:56 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Anthonyb_ccfc wrote:
tcblue wrote:The EDL are a different side to the same coin as the perpetrators yesterday. If you can't see that then you are a fuckwit. Seriously, anyone supporting their methods are condoning other 'extremist' methods. Yet, the people doing so are too stupid to see.

Do you honestly think that you can pick and choose extremism? Or claim that one extremist is better than the other?

I'll let you all get on with it as some of the views that will be posted below are bound to be retarded. :wave:


Really? Because last time I checked the EDL didn't have much of a following in muslim countries? Unlike fanatics in this country?

Maybe I'm wrong so show me the last time an EDL member hacked someone up in the middle east?

Now personally I feel all religion should be outlawed but that's not going to happen so how about just stop alienating your own people for the sake of others?


I guess the general consensus is that 2 wrongs don't make a right and only a likewise mongo would choose the EDL as a vehicle to express the outrage felt by most normal people.


So what do you suggest? sit tight and hope the problem goes away?.. that's whats happened for years and its just progressively getting worse.. now I'm no EDL supporter but letting them know that this country still does have some fight in us can only be a good thing. It takes more guts to fight someone that's willing to fight back than someone cowering in the corner

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 8:59 am

glas wrote:
McPhailS wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483




The attack was sickening but this bunch of cretins are hardly the "people."

They are a bunch of tossers who were are following their past like minded bretheren. The British Union of Fascists, National Front. B.N.P. and the Loyalists from Scotland and N.I.

By their songs and dress you know they are football hooligans or rather were as they were rightly weeded out from Football. If this is the bunch who by you saying "have had enough" and deserve a fist pump then you're as ignorant as they are.

Do you really think they support the forces who have been maimed and wounded? They look as if they couldn't afford their next pint.They are using the soldiers as a front to get publicity.

What would these morons do exactly.......hunt down a "muslim" or as they said in the video a "Paki ****" and show what tough guys they are?

The police do not need retards to help them......a female police officer shot both who were responsible.

In fairness mate I think you just enjoy the idea of violence.....you seem quite excited about it. Now that is sad.



A female police officer shot them? Well I suppose you can say that but if she had "shot " them as instructed they would both be dead. 2 officers fired 6 shots, and basically missed their targets. She should not have opened fire unless she believed herself or the public were in danger, she should then shoot to eradicate the danger (shoot to kill), but she f***ing missed. How safe are we on our streets? She is probably part of our token system (women, blacks, gays etc in jobs), instead of getting jobs on ability to actually do them.



Have you much experience in using a gun?

How do you know who fired and who missed? The two guys were running at the police...... I think you watch too much TV.

I suggest you think this through and give some thought before you post.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:04 am

Extremist c***s. The police should have shot them all

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:06 am

ffs wrote:Extremist c***s. The police should have shot them all



I see we have the token muslim / wind up merchant.

Grow up mate.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:07 am

bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:10 am

EDL are meant to be protecting us while they attack British police and have attacked British people in the past.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:11 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:18 am

Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:


well they are both wrong neither claim any legitimate cause and cannot really be defended. A police officer could very easily have died. Should a police officer be awarded less protection than soldiers? Is attacking the police acceptable in your opinion?

both acts are disgusting if you cant see that or are happy to say that one public servants life is more important than the other? think about what you say.

both groups islamists and the EDL are extremist groups both should be condemned.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:21 am

Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:



I THINK he's trying to make the point that in a democracy violence is abhorrent. These idiots of the EDL claim they support the armed forces ......yet the next minute they are throwing bottles etc at police.

Anyone with a brain know that these guys are just out for a bit of a punch up.

In fact they have a fair bit in common with their muslim "extremist" friends......they both support the concept of keeping their faces covered. ;)

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:22 am

Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:


Your naivety is most surprising given your background.You can't be a little bit pregnant and you can't apply football style justice in this instance.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:34 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:


well they are both wrong neither claim any legitimate cause and cannot really be defended. A police officer could very easily have died. Should a police officer be awarded less protection than soldiers? Is attacking the police acceptable in your opinion?

both acts are disgusting if you cant see that or are happy to say that one public servants life is more important than the other? think about what you say.

both groups islamists and the EDL are extremist groups both should be condemned.


I knew you'd try and jump on my comment and attempt to twist it. The bottom line of my comment is how can you say an incident where someone has been killed is EQUAL to someone who hasn't been killed!!!

You are right both acts are disgusting between equalling the two incidents is not right!!!

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:36 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:


Your naivety is most surprising given your background.You can't be a little bit pregnant and you can't apply football style justice in this instance.


Who is mentioning 'football style justice'..? If you read my comment I clearly stated 'I am by no means defending what the EDL did' but trying to state that two incidents is equal when in one case a human being is killed and in the other no-one gets killed is not right surely..?

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:38 am

McPhailS wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:



I THINK he's trying to make the point that in a democracy violence is abhorrent. These idiots of the EDL claim they support the armed forces ......yet the next minute they are throwing bottles etc at police.

Anyone with a brain know that these guys are just out for a bit of a punch up.

In fact they have a fair bit in common with their muslim "extremist" friends......they both support the concept of keeping their faces covered. ;)


I completely understand your point but it would be nice to know excatly what he meant then as his comment read to me that he feels that two incidents where one human being was killed and in another incident no-one gets killed is the same..?

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:42 am

Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:


well they are both wrong neither claim any legitimate cause and cannot really be defended. A police officer could very easily have died. Should a police officer be awarded less protection than soldiers? Is attacking the police acceptable in your opinion?

both acts are disgusting if you cant see that or are happy to say that one public servants life is more important than the other? think about what you say.

both groups islamists and the EDL are extremist groups both should be condemned.


I knew you'd try and jump on my comment and attempt to twist it. The bottom line of my comment is how can you say an incident where someone has been killed is EQUAL to someone who hasn't been killed!!!

You are right both acts are disgusting between equalling the two incidents is not right!!!


well to be honest I struggle to see the point your making, you agree with me that both acts are wrong, one act has resulted in worse consequences than the other. The soldier RIP, may have survived in the same way as a police officer could easily have died. The muslim extermist has killed this soldier based on an ideal, the EDL attacked the police based on an ideal. Both acts can easily result in the loss of life in one case it did. The fact that no police officers died or were seriously injured was more down to good training rather than luck or a less dangerous situation. Not twisting your words at all but then im not the one saying one incident is less extreme than the other.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:47 am

Adam,I think he saying both were acts of extremism but the one had far far worse consequences.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:54 am

When the edl break down into smaller groups and start planing and carrying out bombings, beheadings and what not, then ill see them as extremists. Until then, I class them as just a bunch of street dancers with a lot of mouth but little substance. By the way, I hope the fuk they never do turn into a real far right terrorist group before anyone jumps on me Lol

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 9:55 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:


well they are both wrong neither claim any legitimate cause and cannot really be defended. A police officer could very easily have died. Should a police officer be awarded less protection than soldiers? Is attacking the police acceptable in your opinion?

both acts are disgusting if you cant see that or are happy to say that one public servants life is more important than the other? think about what you say.

both groups islamists and the EDL are extremist groups both should be condemned.


I knew you'd try and jump on my comment and attempt to twist it. The bottom line of my comment is how can you say an incident where someone has been killed is EQUAL to someone who hasn't been killed!!!

You are right both acts are disgusting between equalling the two incidents is not right!!!


well to be honest I struggle to see the point your making, you agree with me that both acts are wrong, one act has resulted in worse consequences than the other. The soldier RIP, may have survived in the same way as a police officer could easily have died. The muslim extermist has killed this soldier based on an ideal, the EDL attacked the police based on an ideal. Both acts can easily result in the loss of life in one case it did. The fact that no police officers died or were seriously injured was more down to good training rather than luck or a less dangerous situation. Not twisting your words at all but then im not the one saying one incident is less extreme than the other.


So no apology then just you struggle to see the point I am making!!!! I rest my case

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 10:06 am

Angry Man wrote:
McPhailS wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:



I THINK he's trying to make the point that in a democracy violence is abhorrent. These idiots of the EDL claim they support the armed forces ......yet the next minute they are throwing bottles etc at police.

Anyone with a brain know that these guys are just out for a bit of a punch up.

In fact they have a fair bit in common with their muslim "extremist" friends......they both support the concept of keeping their faces covered. ;)


I completely understand your point but it would be nice to know excatly what he meant then as his comment read to me that he feels that two incidents where one human being was killed and in another incident no-one gets killed is the same..?


It's the same mind set.....ignorance and violence.

If the police were not in Woolwich last night do you think it would be reasonable to believe that these morons would of cornered some "paki ****" as they put it and attacked him?

When you get a mob mentality they could of given him a good kicking and indeed much worse.

We all agree that the attack in the street on that poor young man was disgusting...... these idiots from the EDL are cashing in and whipping up hatred and making things worse for the vast majority of muslims. In fact Muslims are not their enemy....it's anyone of a different colour/race etc.

Personally I believe the Muslim extremists and EDL should be arrested for racial hatred etc. There is no place in a decent society for either.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 10:07 am

CraigCCFC wrote:Adam,I think he saying both were acts of extremism but the one had far far worse consequences.


Craig surely by using the word 'EQUAL' then he thinks one didn't have far worse consequences.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 10:10 am

Angry Man wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Adam,I think he saying both were acts of extremism but the one had far far worse consequences.


Craig surely by using the word 'EQUAL' then he thinks one didn't have far worse consequences.

Im not sure but thats what i thought he was saying. I may be wrong though.

Re: EDL members clash with police video

Thu May 23, 2013 10:16 am

McPhailS wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
McPhailS wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:I expect more of this will come no doubt, people have had enough :malky: :malky:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1369274483


so a muslim attacking a soldier is bad but white guys dressed up in balaclavas attacking the police is good. A soldier and a police officer both public servants given the task of protecting us in different ways. Do we not learn from history or are we just happy to make the same mistakes over and over again. The killing of a soldier is terrible and disgusting attacking police in the alleged defence of this country equally abhorent.


Sorry Johnny am I reading this correctly!!! You are saying that attacking police is equal to killing a soldier..? Now before you try and jump on my comment I am by no means defending what the EDL did last night but trying to claim that both acts are equal is a f*cking disgrace!!!! :twisted:



I THINK he's trying to make the point that in a democracy violence is abhorrent. These idiots of the EDL claim they support the armed forces ......yet the next minute they are throwing bottles etc at police.

Anyone with a brain know that these guys are just out for a bit of a punch up.

In fact they have a fair bit in common with their muslim "extremist" friends......they both support the concept of keeping their faces covered. ;)


I completely understand your point but it would be nice to know excatly what he meant then as his comment read to me that he feels that two incidents where one human being was killed and in another incident no-one gets killed is the same..?


It's the same mind set.....ignorance and violence.

If the police were not in Woolwich last night do you think it would be reasonable to believe that these morons would of cornered some "paki ****" as they put it and attacked him?

When you get a mob mentality they could of given him a good kicking and indeed much worse.

We all agree that the attack in the street on that poor young man was disgusting...... these idiots from the EDL are cashing in and whipping up hatred and making things worse for the vast majority of muslims. In fact Muslims are not their enemy....it's anyone of a different colour/race etc.

Personally I believe the Muslim extremists and EDL should be arrested for racial hatred etc. There is no place in a decent society for either.


I don't agree that its the same mindset. Those EDL are just mouthy thugs but they don't even come close to the mindset of those two who murdered that poor man yesterday.

The point I am trying to make here is that violence has many different levels I guess.