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Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours

Tue May 14, 2013 1:46 pm

Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 1:51 pm

I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 1:59 pm

RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:00 pm

Exactly, who cares if a handful of other clubs have changed their colours.

The point is Cardiff City have played in blue for 104 years. Why is there any need to change it?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:01 pm

AMEN ANNIS :ayatollah:

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:06 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.

You who's been ridiculing those trying to get behind the idea of a new club? Not saying you have to like it but lot's of people taking the piss while doing nothing about the rebrand themselves. What's that about respecting people's opinions?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:08 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.


And that in a nutshell is football. I refer to thicko's as being the types who cannot see the bigger picture, beyond their own noses. The rebrand is being dressed up as this demonic change, the end of Cardiff City and Tan is public enemy number one. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have already seen that this is simply the begninning of a new chapter. Look - I'm as blue as the next man but I'm not so narrow minded to recognise every organisation needs to change now and again. My boy is going to grow up only knowing the club playing in red. I'll be worm food before we go back to Blue and what will it matter then? for the next generation of kids will a change to blue in the future be seen as selling our soul? (because after all, all they will know is red).

I am a Cardiff City fan born and bred. They could play in pink and green check for all I care, I'll still go and support them, like I did when only 2,000 or so like minded individuals could be arsed. Back then if we'd have changed to red on the basis of a multi million pound investment I dont think there's many that would have rejected that because if you were around it was grim beyond belief. You can ask Annis - I was the first one to have a go at Ridsdale in a shareholders meeting, I've been on the marches, I've protested outside the dugout to get shot of Kumar, I've been there when black friday was happenign and Sam was havinf a fire sale. I would go to the wall for the club. but just over a shirt colour? Nah, I'm long enough in the tooth to have a more sanguine view on that.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:10 pm

BluebirdJoe wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.

You who's been ridiculing those trying to get behind the idea of a new club? Not saying you have to like it but lot's of people taking the piss while doing nothing about the rebrand themselves. What's that about respecting people's opinions?


I questioned the actions OF this supposed club. Then ridiculed their actions as a club - as I felt it was/is extremely poorly organised and run.

I the club as a group cannot answer some very basic questions, then I will doubt their commitment and their longevity, if they ever begin to exist at all. I didn't abuse anyone for their beliefs that they want a Phoenix club.

There's a big difference.

Doing nothing about the rebrand? Please tell me how you know I've done nothing?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:10 pm

Then im afraid the antogonists need to be dealt with.

ie) bluebird37, all he does is spout rebrand drivel to start an arguement.

Most arguements at the moment start when after 12 months someone all of a sudden spouts nonsense how they have had enough and its time to do something.......AFTER 12 MONTHS OF BUGGER ALL.

Its time a rebrand section was made so there can be no disturbing the new topics as the majority of topics are just the same thing over and over again. People can vent as much as they want then as people know dam well whats inside the re-brand section.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:13 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Then im afraid the antogonists need to be dealt with.

ie) bluebird37, all he does is spout rebrand drivel to start an arguement.

Most arguements at the moment start when after 12 months someone all of a sudden spouts nonsense how they have had enough and its time to do something.......AFTER 12 MONTHS OF BUGGER ALL.

Its time a rebrand section was made so there can be no disturbing the new topics as the majority of topics are just the same thing over and over again. People can vent as much as they want then as people know dam well whats inside the re-brand section.


Amen to that - a rebrand moaning message board would allow the rest of the site to conentrate on the team and footy / banter

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:18 pm

Trying to return us to blue now is like trying to breathe life into someone that has already been dead for 12 months.

Cardiff at home in blue is dead under Tan and will be until he is gone. Time to face the music on that one.

If you want blue back then you want Tan gone. Make your choice because you cant have both. You either want Tan here running hte club or you want the blue kit and identity back.

As long as Tan is here we will be red at home. His beliefs mean more to him than the view of the fans.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:22 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
BluebirdJoe wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.

You who's been ridiculing those trying to get behind the idea of a new club? Not saying you have to like it but lot's of people taking the piss while doing nothing about the rebrand themselves. What's that about respecting people's opinions?


I questioned the actions OF this supposed club. Then ridiculed their actions as a club - as I felt it was/is extremely poorly organised and run. I the club as a group cannot answer some very basic questions, then I will doubt their commitment and their longevity, if they ever begin to exist at all. I didn't abuse anyone for their beliefs that they want a Phoenix club.

There's a big difference.

Doing nothing about the rebrand? Please tell me how you know I've done nothing?


If you think this club is poorly run then you fall right onto the catergory of a thicko. What bit about paying wages on time, winning family club of the year, signing top players, paying the bills on time, paying HMRC on time, getting 20k plus every home game, winning the league points to a club that is poorly organised and run?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:30 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:35 pm

How many people said to wait until promotion was in the bag so as not to upset the players and then complain? Quite a few if I remember rightly. Good timing your post I think Annis. :thumbup:

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:38 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...




In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.







By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:38 pm

RobbieS wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.


And that in a nutshell is football. I refer to thicko's as being the types who cannot see the bigger picture, beyond their own noses. The rebrand is being dressed up as this demonic change, the end of Cardiff City and Tan is public enemy number one. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have already seen that this is simply the begninning of a new chapter. Look - I'm as blue as the next man but I'm not so narrow minded to recognise every organisation needs to change now and again. My boy is going to grow up only knowing the club playing in red. I'll be worm food before we go back to Blue and what will it matter then? for the next generation of kids will a change to blue in the future be seen as selling our soul? (because after all, all they will know is red).

I am a Cardiff City fan born and bred. They could play in pink and green check for all I care, I'll still go and support them, like I did when only 2,000 or so like minded individuals could be arsed. Back then if we'd have changed to red on the basis of a multi million pound investment I dont think there's many that would have rejected that because if you were around it was grim beyond belief. You can ask Annis - I was the first one to have a go at Ridsdale in a shareholders meeting, I've been on the marches, I've protested outside the dugout to get shot of Kumar, I've been there when black friday was happenign and Sam was havinf a fire sale. I would go to the wall for the club. but just over a shirt colour? Nah, I'm long enough in the tooth to have a more sanguine view on that.


Spot on! I don't think its something he'd change now anyway!
Why don't we turn our attention to getting a better atmosphere at the ground and cheering the boys on, cos there gonna need it next season

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:38 pm

RobbieS wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
BluebirdJoe wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.

You who's been ridiculing those trying to get behind the idea of a new club? Not saying you have to like it but lot's of people taking the piss while doing nothing about the rebrand themselves. What's that about respecting people's opinions?


I questioned the actions OF this supposed club. Then ridiculed their actions as a club - as I felt it was/is extremely poorly organised and run. I the club as a group cannot answer some very basic questions, then I will doubt their commitment and their longevity, if they ever begin to exist at all. I didn't abuse anyone for their beliefs that they want a Phoenix club.

There's a big difference.

Doing nothing about the rebrand? Please tell me how you know I've done nothing?


If you think this club is poorly run then you fall right onto the catergory of a thicko. What bit about paying wages on time, winning family club of the year, signing top players, paying the bills on time, paying HMRC on time, getting 20k plus every home game, winning the league points to a club that is poorly organised and run?



I think he's talking about the fc bluebirds club that was 'set up'.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:39 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...


A harsh reply that. About 95% of our support were not interested in any demonstration or dialogue so what was the point.

Anyway Blue Tuesday looks to have backfired a bit on Tan. Since then the Blue support has risen, you only have to listen to what reception Tan gets when he makes an appearance. Makes me wonder if Blue Tuesday has hit home with a few.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:42 pm

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:44 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...


A harsh reply that. About 95% of our support were not interested in any demonstration or dialogue so what was the point.

Anyway Blue Tuesday looks to have backfired a bit on Tan. Since then the Blue support has risen, you only have to listen to what reception Tan gets when he makes an appearance. Makes me wonder if Blue Tuesday has hit home with a few.



Ian, I'm still waiting for BlueDragon, under his fake name to tell me what he has done so far?





By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:44 pm

d20 wrote:Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.


and comments like that just light the fuse

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...


By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?


Under a made up name ? If you go on my user profile you can see my name. Bit hypocritical coming from someone naming themselves ForeverBlue, I assume that isnt your real name...

However, I havent done anything no. As I have previously said I reluctantly accepted the changes so the club could progress.

I didnt realise singing 'we're cardiff city we will always be blue' was taking action. Neither did I realise wearing a blue top was. If you were serious about getting the blue back you wouldnt stop at any cost.

If I was as passionate about it as you make out you are then I would be doing far more than singing some songs and attending interviews that generally the inner circle are only invited too. As I said my opinion, I could be wrong its just a judgement of what I see and I obviously dont see everything you do.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:46 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...


By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?


Under a made up name ? If you go on my user profile you can see my name. Bit hypocritical coming from someone naming themselves ForeverBlue, I assume that isnt your real name...

However, I havent done anything no. As I have previously said I reluctantly accepted the changes so the club could progress.

I didnt realise singing 'we're cardiff city we will always be blue' was taking action. Neither did I realise wearing a blue top was. If you were serious about getting the blue back you wouldnt stop at any cost.

If I was as passionate about it as you make out you are then I would be doing far more than singing some songs and attending interviews that generally the inner circle are only invited too. As I said my opinion, I could be wrong its just a judgement of what I see and I obviously dont see everything you do.



Your called BlueDragon, but looking at your previous posts and many of them your all for Red,,Tan and what ever he says.

by bluedragons » Tue May 14, 2013 12:31 am

It is proven that red sports team are more successful than teams of other clubs. It is also proven that the colour red gives a psychological advantage.
bluedragons

Posts: 263
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm


So what would you be doing?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:46 pm

d20 wrote:Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.


Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:47 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
d20 wrote:Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.


and comments like that just light the fuse



sorry craig but its true.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:49 pm

Blue 87 wrote:
d20 wrote:Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.


Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?


i never believed in my lifetime we would be in the top league but it was never the ultimate ,i grew up watching crap teams with crap crowds and loved it ,football has changed and so have fans and some down there now only care about the big league is simple as that.

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...


By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?


Under a made up name ? If you go on my user profile you can see my name. Bit hypocritical coming from someone naming themselves ForeverBlue, I assume that isnt your real name...

However, I havent done anything no. As I have previously said I reluctantly accepted the changes so the club could progress.

I didnt realise singing 'we're cardiff city we will always be blue' was taking action. Neither did I realise wearing a blue top was. If you were serious about getting the blue back you wouldnt stop at any cost.

If I was as passionate about it as you make out you are then I would be doing far more than singing some songs and attending interviews that generally the inner circle are only invited too. As I said my opinion, I could be wrong its just a judgement of what I see and I obviously dont see everything you do.



by bluedragons » Tue May 14, 2013 12:31 am

It is proven that red sports team are more successful than teams of other clubs. It is also proven that the colour red gives a psychological advantage.
bluedragons

Posts: 263
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm


So what would you be doing?


I dont understand what the point is in this question nor why I'm being asked it as I have already said Ive reluctantly accepted the changes, for in my opinion, the good of the club. So therefore, I wouldn't do anything because I am not anti red nor anti blue, just a Cardiff City supporter embracing the good times.

I also dont understand why you dug that quote up, all it is, is a study by researchers that have proven that red clubs are most successful and red is a psychologically stronger colour than any other...

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:52 pm

bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluedragons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...


By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?


Under a made up name ? If you go on my user profile you can see my name. Bit hypocritical coming from someone naming themselves ForeverBlue, I assume that isnt your real name...

However, I havent done anything no. As I have previously said I reluctantly accepted the changes so the club could progress.

I didnt realise singing 'we're cardiff city we will always be blue' was taking action. Neither did I realise wearing a blue top was. If you were serious about getting the blue back you wouldnt stop at any cost.

If I was as passionate about it as you make out you are then I would be doing far more than singing some songs and attending interviews that generally the inner circle are only invited too. As I said my opinion, I could be wrong its just a judgement of what I see and I obviously dont see everything you do.



by bluedragons » Tue May 14, 2013 12:31 am

It is proven that red sports team are more successful than teams of other clubs. It is also proven that the colour red gives a psychological advantage.
bluedragons

Posts: 263
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm


So what would you be doing?


I dont understand what the point is in this question nor why I'm being asked it as I have already said Ive reluctantly accepted the changes, for in my opinion, the good of the club. So therefore, I wouldn't do anything because I am not anti red nor anti blue, just a Cardiff City supporter embracing the good times.




Your called BlueDragon, but looking at your previous posts and many of them your all for Red,,Tan and what ever he says.

by bluedragons » Tue May 14, 2013 12:31 am

It is proven that red sports team are more successful than teams of other clubs. It is also proven that the colour red gives a psychological advantage.
bluedragons

Posts: 263
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm


So what would you be doing?

Simple question, you say Ive done nothing, so what would you do?

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:53 pm

RobbieS wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
BluebirdJoe wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobbieS wrote:I actually agree with you. I dont like the change but I accept it as it's not a life and death matter for me. What I was trying to point out was it's not unique in football. The change of colour is being portrayed that we are 'selling our soul' - the reality is plenty of clubs have (and will continue) to change their strips.


Spot on Annis. Could you tell me why Robbie, that you called people "thickos"? Hardly respecting people's opinions, is it?

We are different to other clubs "rebranding". We did it for a massive cash injection, which leads to us as a fan base looking like "sell outs".

The irony is, had another club done it, we would all be laughing at taking the piss, singing songs about them - just like others have this season.

You who's been ridiculing those trying to get behind the idea of a new club? Not saying you have to like it but lot's of people taking the piss while doing nothing about the rebrand themselves. What's that about respecting people's opinions?


I questioned the actions OF this supposed club. Then ridiculed their actions as a club - as I felt it was/is extremely poorly organised and run. I the club as a group cannot answer some very basic questions, then I will doubt their commitment and their longevity, if they ever begin to exist at all. I didn't abuse anyone for their beliefs that they want a Phoenix club.

There's a big difference.

Doing nothing about the rebrand? Please tell me how you know I've done nothing?


If you think this club is poorly run then you fall right onto the catergory of a thicko. What bit about paying wages on time, winning family club of the year, signing top players, paying the bills on time, paying HMRC on time, getting 20k plus every home game, winning the league points to a club that is poorly organised and run?


Read the post properly before you put yourself in the "thickos" category. :lol:

I was talking about the "organisation" of the FC Bluebirds nonsense. :thumbup:

Re: Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just O

Tue May 14, 2013 2:54 pm

Pro red ? No.

I accept the changes for the good of the club if I had a choice we would be blue, but we dont.

I dont see why your asking what I would do. Ive told you, nothing as I have accepted the changes.

However, I havent seen ANYTHING by ANYONE trying to bring the blue back. Apart from that embarrassing march. Were you on that march ?

And just for the record, I am pro Tan. I think the colour change was a controversial one and not a route I would have chosen but overall he has done a brilliant job here.