FAO Reluctantly reds, motivated by fear of liquidation?

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

So thank Tan for putting us in this position, then try to oust him immediately after? That's what your suggesting??

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

So thank Tan for putting us in this position, then try to oust him immediately after? That's what your suggesting??

Yes but without the tanking bit.
What if we get relagated next season and Tan walks away because Langston are still f*ck arsingf around? It's safer for the clubs future to act now instead leaving this institution in the hands pf foriegn parties with no emotional stake in the club.

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

I did also, the above proposition plays to their logic and reason, looking at this purely in terms of securing the clubs existence, we have never had a better oppurtunity to rid ourselves of langston and Tan.

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

I did also, the above proposition plays to their logic and reason, looking at this purely in terms of securing the clubs existence, we have never had a better oppurtunity to rid ourselves of langston and Tan.

Basically they have allowed Tan to payroll the promotion push.

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

I did also, the above proposition plays to their logic and reason, looking at this purely in terms of securing the clubs existence, we have never had a better oppurtunity to rid ourselves of langston and Tan.

Basically they have allowed Tan to payroll the promotion push.

jeopardising the clubs existence with greater spending. Anybody who truly had the clubs survival at heart would want it all resolved this summer. WHERE ARE YOU RELUCTANT REDS?

To answer your question? Who is going to invest £100m to buy city? That's what it would cost at this point to buy city!
Why would tan change is mind on colours when he's got us promotion in red! You come on here periodically with same anti tan rhetoric why? Your ideas are ill thought out and impracticable!

To answer your question? Who is going to invest £100m to buy city? That's what it would cost at this point to buy city!
Why would tan change is mind on colours when he's got us promotion in red! You come on here periodically with same anti tan rhetoric why? Your ideas are ill thought out and impracticable!

We are more liikely to be bought now than at the end of a relegated season(would you agree?). Therefore, those who claim to have the clubs survival at heart, would want it all sorted now instead of talking about whether we'll sign danny welbeck.

I post on here periodically because i often travel abroad on business. However My views on Tan are not periodic, Infact Everytime i visit my father's 'bluebird' gravestone in Ely cemetary I'm reminded just how disrespectful to the people of south wales Tan has been.

To answer your question? Who is going to invest £100m to buy city? That's what it would cost at this point to buy city!
Why would tan change is mind on colours when he's got us promotion in red! You come on here periodically with same anti tan rhetoric why? Your ideas are ill thought out and impracticable!

We are more liikely to be bought now than at the end of a relegated season(would you agree?). Therefore, those who claim to have the clubs survival at heart, would want it all sorted now instead of talking about whether we'll sign danny welbeck.

I post on here periodically because i often travel abroad on business. However My views on Tan are not periodic, Infact Everytime i visit my father's 'bluebird' gravestone in Ely cemetary I'm reminded just how disrespectful to the people of south wales Tan has been.

What if,what if,what if.All verbal bollocks.

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

Do you think the HMRC Court cases and those winding up orders were made up as part of the plan.

The scenario is a good one but the real time facts are flawed.

Sell up, yes, but who will buy? The motivation to purchase is not there especially when you factor in the GUARANTEED return VT is already looking at.

For VT to consider a sale he would be looking for a return that takes into account the debt to him, this years Premier League monies and, at the least, the parachute payments on returning the the Championship.

There is still a lot of work to do before the club is seen as a good asset to take on and even then it will be foreign money coming in again. The club has outgrown local investment.

The scenario is a good one but the real time facts are flawed.

Sell up, yes, but who will buy? The motivation to purchase is not there especially when you factor in the GUARANTEED return VT is already looking at.

For VT to consider a sale he would be looking for a return that takes into account the debt to him, this years Premier League monies and, at the least, the parachute payments on returning the the Championship.

There is still a lot of work to do before the club is seen as a good asset to take on and even then it will be foreign money coming in again. The club has outgrown local investment.

How do you know the motivation to purchase is not there? We are a premiere league club, is this not the best time to pressure VT with organised boycotts, Demonstrations etc.?

Judging from your post you think we'll liquidate and cease to exist, is that correct? If so could you talk me through it
Foriegn money yes, but also with a respect for the local people?

To answer your question? Who is going to invest £100m to buy city? That's what it would cost at this point to buy city!
Why would tan change is mind on colours when he's got us promotion in red! You come on here periodically with same anti tan rhetoric why? Your ideas are ill thought out and impracticable!

We are more liikely to be bought now than at the end of a relegated season(would you agree?). Therefore, those who claim to have the clubs survival at heart, would want it all sorted now instead of talking about whether we'll sign danny welbeck.

I post on here periodically because i often travel abroad on business. However My views on Tan are not periodic, Infact Everytime i visit my father's 'bluebird' gravestone in Ely cemetary I'm reminded just how disrespectful to the people of south wales Tan has been.

What if,what if,what if.All verbal bollocks.

Useful contribution

Judging from your post you think we'll liquidate and cease to exist, is that correct?

No it is not.

I am all for pressing for VT to step aside if it means we get blue back. I just do not think there is a buyer out there that could meet the current asking price.

Judging from your post you think we'll liquidate and cease to exist, is that correct?

No it is not.

I am all for pressing for VT to step aside if it means we get blue back. I just do not think there is a buyer out there that could meet the current asking price.

Ah fair enough, What is the current asking price?

Judging from your post you think we'll liquidate and cease to exist, is that correct?

No it is not.

I am all for pressing for VT to step aside if it means we get blue back. I just do not think there is a buyer out there that could meet the current asking price.

Ah fair enough, What is the current asking price?

At least what he's put in which no one will match. Just because we are in the prem doesnt mean we will have buyers jumping to take over The most we could hope for right now is to get people intrested in investing in us which is what tan wants so he isnt the only one bankrolling us.

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

Spurious reasons? Slap in the face? Mickey Mouse? Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?

Feck mate, you need to take a reality check and (more importantly) start appreciating the 99% good that Tan has achieved for Cardiff City FC...unless, of course YOU could have done better with YOUR money

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

Spurious reasons? Slap in the face? Mickey Mouse? Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?

Feck mate, you need to take a reality check and (more importantly) start appreciating the 99% good that Tan has achieved for Cardiff City FC...unless, of course YOU could have done better with YOUR money

"Slap in the face? " - Rebranding a 100 year old identity is a slap in the face for many bluebirds i meet.

"Mickey Mouse? " - Mimmicking man utd's home strip with a beer matt badge is mickey mouse. is it not?

"Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?" - We were told Tan must not be spooked into taking off, Now the seasons over a show off fan unity would shake him, no?

Tan has ruined how Many fans identify with CCFC, The man did everything with as little class as possible it seems

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

Do you think the HMRC Court cases and those winding up orders were made up as part of the plan.

No I don't think the winding up orders were made up. However what is to say the courts would have agreed the winding up order. What happened if someone else came along. What about the Malaysians pulling out then, would the like of PMG who had a high interest in the club just let it happen losing everything? I doubt it.

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

Spurious reasons? Slap in the face? Mickey Mouse? Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?

Feck mate, you need to take a reality check and (more importantly) start appreciating the 99% good that Tan has achieved for Cardiff City FC...unless, of course YOU could have done better with YOUR money

"Slap in the face? " - Rebranding a 100 year old identity is a slap in the face for many bluebirds i meet.

"Mickey Mouse? " - Mimmicking man utd's home strip with a beer matt badge is mickey mouse. is it not?

"Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?" - We were told Tan must not be spooked into taking off, Now the seasons over a show off fan unity would shake him, no?

Tan has ruined how Many fans identify with CCFC, The man did everything with as little class as possible it seems

It's a good idea , but who would buy Tan out ?
Are our debts too great to make us an attractive proposition to a potential investor ? Or should we keep hoping for billionaire playboys (Man C , Chelsea) ?
I agree with your philosophy but can't think of anyone who would pay Tan off (and give him his profit) and then return us to blue ............. so sad I know but who else have we got ?

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

Do you think the HMRC Court cases and those winding up orders were made up as part of the plan.

No I don't think the winding up orders were made up. However what is to say the courts would have agreed the winding up order. What happened if someone else came along. What about the Malaysians pulling out then, would the like of PMG who had a high interest in the club just let it happen losing everything? I doubt it.

pmg was a secured creditor who has made millions from the deal, and would have been one of the few to have not lost much if anything from admin or liquidation.

As for other investors stepping in, yeh Ok keep trying to convince yourself, I'm sure there were loads of Billionaire mugs waiting in the wings, it's just they missed out the time before when we were in a bad position, but one ten times better than the one we were in this time.

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Not me, only ever used this name here, migrated from the other board, classier fan on here

Another regenerated poster.

Not me, only ever used this name here, migrated from the other board, classier fan on here

Of course you are

So thank Tan for putting us in this position, then try to oust him immediately after? That's what your suggesting??

This.

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

Spurious reasons? Slap in the face? Mickey Mouse? Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?

Feck mate, you need to take a reality check and (more importantly) start appreciating the 99% good that Tan has achieved for Cardiff City FC...unless, of course YOU could have done better with YOUR money

"Slap in the face? " - Rebranding a 100 year old identity is a slap in the face for many bluebirds i meet.

"Mickey Mouse? " - Mimmicking man utd's home strip with a beer matt badge is mickey mouse. is it not?

"Shake Tan into selling? Powerful position?" - We were told Tan must not be spooked into taking off, Now the seasons over a show off fan unity would shake him, no?

Tan has ruined how Many fans identify with CCFC, The man did everything with as little class as possible it seems

Mate, you're talking pure bollocks on this one and your intransigence is culpable to an ignorance of two facts, i.e. (a) that VT saved the club using his own money where everyone else dropped us like a stone, and (b) he has delivered on every promise made to date

You (and others) are clutchin at sodden straws if you believe that the blue issue is any longer of major concern to him or, sadly, the majority of fans

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

Shake Tan into selling? In a powerful position? Really?

Exactly how do you propose to do this? If you no longer want to watch games then don't.

Here's a question...
Many reluctant and not so reluctant reds used the spurious reason of impending liquidation when accepting a mickey mouse rebrand and less face it no other club has recieved the slap in the face like Tan licked us with. ...... So with the the clubs existence purely in their (our) hearts, would now be the best time to rock the boat and shake Tan into selling or reverting back to a more respectful dialogue between him and the community? If Tan puts us up for sale now, We are less likely to liquidate now than if we were relegated at the end of next season. If you genuinely fear for the institutions future, should we now act, As fans we haven't been in such a powerful position.

Shake Tan into selling? In a powerful position? Really?

Exactly how do you propose to do this? If you no longer want to watch games then don't.

I know. It's laughable TBH and just goes to show these people have no 'real' argument as to why VT should be made the scapegoat for their own ignorance and frustrations

As my (late) father would say: "Son, there are none more deluded than those desperate to disprove an undeniable fact"

I've always believed the liquidation factor was a tactic used by certain club employees to secure their own interests.

Do you think the HMRC Court cases and those winding up orders were made up as part of the plan.

No I don't think the winding up orders were made up. However what is to say the courts would have agreed the winding up order. What happened if someone else came along. What about the Malaysians pulling out then, would the like of PMG who had a high interest in the club just let it happen losing everything? I doubt it.

pmg was a secured creditor who has made millions from the deal, and would have been one of the few to have not lost much if anything from admin or liquidation.

As for other investors stepping in, yeh Ok keep trying to convince yourself, I'm sure there were loads of Billionaire mugs waiting in the wings, it's just they missed out the time before when we were in a bad position, but one ten times better than the one we were in this time.

Apparently there was a queue of billionaire investors lining up with suitcases full of cash, but the sun shone in Ridsdale's eyes so he missed them.