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Tue May 07, 2013 7:09 pm

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The retained list will be announced very soon, who do you think Malky will decide to leave go and what players would you like to see remain ?

How many can you see being released ?

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:11 pm

Apparently McPhail is leaving according to Twitter?

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:12 pm

McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:15 pm

How many can potentially be released? i.e. out of contract as of June 2013.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:18 pm

CantonJack wrote:McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:

I think you will be granted your wish :ayatollah:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:19 pm

CantonJack wrote:McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:


Too right!

He has shown so much loyalty to the club by staying with us in recent failures when he could have left. So it is about time that we show him some loyalty in return.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:21 pm

He Plays on the Wright wrote:
CantonJack wrote:McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:


Too right!

He has shown so much loyalty to the club by staying with us in recent failures when he could have left. So it is about time that we show him some loyalty in return.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree he should stay but has he really had any opportunities to leave?

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:22 pm

we know heider has left,
hope we keep kev for another year..

i expect mcphail to leave also.... would be nice for him to be around the development side, but it depends if mcphail still wants to play....


i think the following players may be loaned out, ralls, mason, velikonja..

i also expect a cut price sale for smith £200-£250k and maybe 1 from cowie and conway...

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:23 pm

He Plays on the Wright wrote:
CantonJack wrote:McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:


Too right!

He has shown so much loyalty to the club by staying with us in recent failures when he could have left. So it is about time that we show him some loyalty in return.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


but he panics on the ball, runs with his head down, and cant put a cross in?
ive always liked Kev but hes had his day.

Smith Should Go
McPhail
Hulguson
Dont think many more will be out the door. :ayatollah:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:24 pm

I Love em all and they are true Pros. But there are many that are not Prem class and that's a shame as a lot of Premiere players are just greedy arrogant twats. But those Lads in our squad are true Gentlemen and they are the one's that put the pride into Cardiff City.
But OK i am talking with the heart here and not the head I would be happy letting this squad with one or two additions have a crack with our Supporters as one, and if we go down we go down. :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:25 pm

Wayne S wrote:
He Plays on the Wright wrote:
CantonJack wrote:McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:


Too right!

He has shown so much loyalty to the club by staying with us in recent failures when he could have left. So it is about time that we show him some loyalty in return.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree he should stay but has he really had any opportunities to leave?


He might have wanted a fresh start after missing out on promotion so he could have maybe handed in a transfer request. Examples of players who left us because of dissapointment are with Bothroyd, Burke and Chopra.

:thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:29 pm

He Plays on the Wright wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
He Plays on the Wright wrote:
CantonJack wrote:McNaughton better get a new contract! :old:


Too right!

He has shown so much loyalty to the club by staying with us in recent failures when he could have left. So it is about time that we show him some loyalty in return.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree he should stay but has he really had any opportunities to leave?


He might have wanted a fresh start after missing out on promotion so he could have maybe handed in a transfer request. Examples of players who left us because of dissapointment are with Bothroyd, Burke and Chopra.

:thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Bothroyd went for money reasons , Burke for family reasons and chopra before the local bookies got to him

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:31 pm

As far as I can make out only 6 players are out of contract.

Kevin McNaughton
Stephen McPhail
Heider Helguson
Nat Jarvis
Luke Coulson
Ibrahim Mansaray

I'd expect them all to go except Kevin who may get a year but depends on whether he accepts.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:32 pm

carlccfc wrote:The retained list will be announced very soon, who do you think Malky will decide to leave go and what players would you like to see remain ?

How many can you see being released ?


Carl, when you say the list will be announced very soon, does that mean tonight?

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:36 pm

Wayne S wrote:As far as I can make out only 6 players are out of contract.

Kevin McNaughton
Stephen McPhail
Heider Helguson
Nat Jarvis
Luke Coulson
Ibrahim Mansaray

I'd expect them all to go except Kevin who may get a year but depends on whether he accepts.


Luke Coulson looks like a good prospect. So I hope him and Kev stay. The rest I say goodbye and good luck.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:38 pm

Wayne S wrote:As far as I can make out only 6 players are out of contract.

Kevin McNaughton
Stephen McPhail
Heider Helguson
Nat Jarvis
Luke Coulson
Ibrahim Mansaray

I'd expect them all to go except Kevin who may get a year but depends on whether he accepts.



Coulson has to stay, looked great for the development squad.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:39 pm

I think Philip Kiss will be going on loan, along with Ralls and Harris and Velikonja, I think malky will keep Mason & Gestede.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:40 pm

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:As far as I can make out only 6 players are out of contract.

Kevin McNaughton
Stephen McPhail
Heider Helguson
Nat Jarvis
Luke Coulson
Ibrahim Mansaray

I'd expect them all to go except Kevin who may get a year but depends on whether he accepts.



Coulson has to stay, looked great for the development squad.


Thought his contract would have been sorted by now though if he was staying.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:47 pm

We need to remember that there are a few different categorise here and although you'd think some could go they may have contracts to run. You have;

Those whose contracts are up and have no say in the matter if told to leave.

Those that are told they can leave and agree mutual cancellation of contract, perhaps involving a pay off.

Those that are told they can leave and actively seek out another club while remaining in contract. And finally;

Those that are told they can leave but sit on their arses happy to see out their contract.

I doubt we'd have many of the last type purely down to the type of players MM goes for.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 7:47 pm

Wayne S wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:As far as I can make out only 6 players are out of contract.

Kevin McNaughton
Stephen McPhail
Heider Helguson
Nat Jarvis
Luke Coulson
Ibrahim Mansaray

I'd expect them all to go except Kevin who may get a year but depends on whether he accepts.



Coulson has to stay, looked great for the development squad.


Thought his contract would have been sorted by now though if he was staying.


I trust Malky and his staff, if he says no there must be reasons but he did look great as did Declan John.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:02 pm

Here's my thoughts

Goalkeepers
1 Marshall - Stay
29 Parish – Development squad
32 Lewis – Release
Need back up to Marshell

Defenders
2 McNaughton – Stay
3 Taylor - Stay
5 Hudson - Stay
6 Turner - Stay
12 Connolly – Stay
31 Nugent – Loan out to a Championship side
Need first team Centre Half & two Full Back

Midfielders
4 Kiss – Loan out to a Championship side
7 Whittingham - Stay
8 Cowie – Go
11 Conway - Stay
13 Kim - Stay
16 Noone - Stay
17 Gunnarsson - Stay
18 Mutch - Stay
19 Harris - Loan out to a Championship side
21 Ralls - Loan out to a Championship side
24 Lappin - Go
37 McPhail – Retire and become part of Development Squad coaching staff
42 John – Loan out
Need Two midfield hard men to get stuck in and stop teams playing and a right sided midfielder

Forwards
9 Velikonja - Loan out to a Championship side needs to prove himself
14 Smith - Go
15 Gestede - Stay
20 Mason - Stay
22 Helguson - Retire
23 Maynard - Stay
27 Campbell - Stay
39 Bellamy - Stay
Need Two Target men 6’ 1” plus

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:12 pm

Why would people want to get rid of smith?

We need a much bigger squad then we have now, the only players that should go are mcphail an helguson.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:19 pm

kingdong wrote:Why would people want to get rid of smith?

We need a much bigger squad then we have now, the only players that should go are mcphail an helguson.


He's got another year left on his contract anyway.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:20 pm

kingdong wrote:Why would people want to get rid of smith?

We need a much bigger squad then we have now, the only players that should go are mcphail an helguson.


Don't forget we can only have a squad of 25 can't we ?

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:25 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
kingdong wrote:Why would people want to get rid of smith?

We need a much bigger squad then we have now, the only players that should go are mcphail an helguson.


Don't forget we can only have a squad of 25 can't we ?


25 players over the age of 21, as many as you want under the age of 21. 8 of the 25 have to be homegrown (ie played for a club affiliated to the English or Welsh FA for at least 3 years)

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:29 pm

Wayne S wrote:
kingdong wrote:Why would people want to get rid of smith?

We need a much bigger squad then we have now, the only players that should go are mcphail an helguson.


He's got another year left on his contract anyway.

I know but most of the plumbs on here don't know what the retained list is.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:36 pm

lets be honest. we need a lot more quality than we got, dont let your hearts rule your head

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:38 pm

ninianblue wrote:lets be honest. we need a lot more quality than we got, dont let your hearts rule your head

What me ?? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:43 pm

kingdong wrote:I know but most of the plumbs on here don't know what the retained list is.


We get it every year fans calling for a cull of players that have years left on their contracts. :lol:

The release list is always quite small and this time it looks like it may only be Helguson, McPhail, Jarvis, Mansaray & possibly Coulson.

Re: ' CCFC RETAINED LIST '

Tue May 07, 2013 8:47 pm

ninianblue wrote:lets be honest. we need a lot more quality than we got, dont let your hearts rule your head

We know so we buy better players to go with the ones we have.
Not get rid of all our players.