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Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:00 pm

As he can't cut it at Championship level so I would just cut the loses and get him off the wage bill.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:08 pm

He's never played at championship level.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:10 pm

Karl wrote:He's never played at championship level.


didn't he play in the first home game of the season and that was it..?

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:11 pm

Either loan to a championship club or sell and free up the wage bill.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:12 pm

Sell him or offer him to a club if we're going to buy foreign talent

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:15 pm

Angry Man wrote:
Karl wrote:He's never played at championship level.


didn't he play in the first home game of the season and that was it..?

For about 5 minutes

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:19 pm

Angry Man wrote:As he can't cut it at Championship level so I would just cut the loses and get him off the wage bill.



Loses, he hasn't played to lose any, or have I missed something, I could understand cutting the losses mind and save on wages.Clay class, no doubt. :roll:

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:20 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Angry Man wrote:As he can't cut it at Championship level so I would just cut the loses and get him off the wage bill.



Loses, he hasn't played to lose any, or have I missed something, I could understand cutting the losses mind and save on wages.Clay class, no doubt. :roll:


and the fee of almost £3 million too..? :?

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:01 pm

I'd let him start the last 2 games just to see what he can do against 2 decent championship sides. Nothing to lose.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:19 pm

As he's been banging them in for the Development Team who can say he's not good enough for the Championship. Maybe Malky just doesn't think the First Team's style of play would suit him.

I'm sure there are plenty of Championship Teams that would give us most of our money back, if not more than we paid....Leicester for example. Alternatively maybe we could do some sort of swap deal with Celtic for Matthews or Ledley.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:44 pm

Come on as a sub in two early season awat games (Brighton & Bristol City) 28 mins in total. Both games were before we signed Nicky Maynard and after that only had a couple of games as an unused sub.

But MM took him to Burnley yesterday which for me is a sign that he is still involved with the first team squad. The next few weeks will tell us a lot about his future at the club.

He has scored a lot of goals for the development squad and has shown he has an eye for goal. Probably this season was a "Development" season for him but with a fit again Maynard and now Campbell at the club he does seem down the pecking order and he is going to be lucky to get game time.

With us limited to a 25 man squad in the Premier League Maynard, Campbell, Bellamy, Mason, Gestede and Velikonja are all under contract next season plus any players we sign this summer.

We paid not far off £3m for this player and he has 3 years left on his contract :? The term "White Elephant" spring to mind.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:05 pm

The reported fee for Velikonja was 2 million euro- about £1.7 million. Still a lot for someone whos hasn't played but nowhere near £3million. Should go out on a season long loan I think. Then if he gets a few goals we might get most of our money back if/when we sell him . If we try to sell now we will get very little

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:09 pm

Didn't someone post there were reasons why he didn't play???,something not right with this signing,considering malky has players watched for weeks before making any attempt to sign someone

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:15 pm

Nemo wrote:The reported fee for Velikonja was 2 million euro- about £1.7 million. Still a lot for someone whos hasn't played but nowhere near £3million. Should go out on a season long loan I think. Then if he gets a few goals we might get most of our money back if/when we sell him . If we try to sell now we will get very little


Sorry should have we WILL have paid £3m by the end of his contract as his wages were reported at 400,000 euro per season for 4 years.

A lot of money to pay for a player who as yet has not established himself in the matchday squad.


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Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:26 pm

Didn't someone post there were reasons why he didn't play???,something not right with this signing,considering malky has players watched for weeks before making any attempt to sign someone


Yes there is an off pitch reason why he has not featured apparently, will be revealed when the season ends. I haven't a clue but read about this somewhere on here before

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:31 pm

I think Carl said he was aware why he has not played and will reveal at the end of the season! The mystery deepens!

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:32 pm

I think Carl said he was aware why he has not played and will reveal at the end of the season! The mystery deepens!

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:37 pm

I think Carl said he was aware why he has not played and will reveal at the end of the season! The mystery deepens!

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:13 pm

malky might just of been developing eti for the prem ;) maybe malky will change his style of play and eti will fit right in next season :ayatollah:

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:20 pm

He sits at number 5 in our list of record transfers fees paid. Surely we are not going to have wasted nearly £2m on someone who will never start a game for the club?

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:48 pm

citybluechris wrote:malky might just of been developing eti for the prem ;) maybe malky will change his style of play and eti will fit right in next season :ayatollah:

thats what i think

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:50 pm

Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:51 pm

RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:52 pm

BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Yes, won't hack it in the prem either ....

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:54 pm

RedbirdsTID wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Yes, won't hack it in the prem either ....


He's a young, developing player.

I'm pretty sure he did more than 'hack' it in the Carling Cup Final last season v PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM Liverpool.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:58 pm

Karl wrote:He's never played at championship level.

Yes he has.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:01 pm

BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Yes, won't hack it in the prem either ....


He's a young, developing player.

I'm pretty sure he did more than 'hack' it in the Carling Cup Final last season v PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM Liverpool.



I have to agree with Redbird here. Velikonja clearly isnt up to standard with only 1 sub appearance this season.

BlueSince82 - If Malky said tomorrow he wanted to sell Etien Velikonja and Mason you wouldn't complain, so just because Redbird says so there's no need for you to go around disrespecting his views.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:03 pm

cardiffforlife wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Yes, won't hack it in the prem either ....


He's a young, developing player.

I'm pretty sure he did more than 'hack' it in the Carling Cup Final last season v PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM Liverpool.

Exactly its like your playing a game of simon says, except its malky says instead ;)

I have to agree with Redbird here. Velikonja clearly isnt up to standard with only 1 sub appearance this season.

BlueSince82 - If Malky said tomorrow he wanted to sell Etien Velikonja and Mason you wouldn't complain, so just because Redbird says so there's no need for you to go around disrespecting his views.

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:09 pm

cardiffforlife wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Yes, won't hack it in the prem either ....


He's a young, developing player.

I'm pretty sure he did more than 'hack' it in the Carling Cup Final last season v PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM Liverpool.



I have to agree with Redbird here. Velikonja clearly isnt up to standard with only 1 sub appearance this season.

BlueSince82 - If Malky said tomorrow he wanted to sell Etien Velikonja and Mason you wouldn't complain, so just because Redbird says so there's no need for you to go around disrespecting his views.


2 sub apperances not 1 :thumbright:

Re: Velikonja (What would you do with him..?)

Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:11 pm

citybluechris wrote:
cardiffforlife wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
RedbirdsTID wrote:Sell him, he doesn't suit our style of play!


Neither does Mason. Want to sell him too?

Yes, won't hack it in the prem either ....


He's a young, developing player.

I'm pretty sure he did more than 'hack' it in the Carling Cup Final last season v PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM Liverpool.



I have to agree with Redbird here. Velikonja clearly isnt up to standard with only 1 sub appearance this season.

BlueSince82 - If Malky said tomorrow he wanted to sell Etien Velikonja and Mason you wouldn't complain, so just because Redbird says so there's no need for you to go around disrespecting his views.


2 sub apperances not 1 :thumbright:


1 Championship sub apperance is what I'm on about....

not counting cup matches