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Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:45 pm
How do you think Malky should approach next season, in terms of spending money ?
QPR spent ten's of millions to try and retain their Premier League position and it is looking increasingly likely they will be relegated.
Reading on the other hand stuck with the players they got in the main and spent just a few million to try and stay up and they too look like they are coming down.
So with this in mind how do you think Malky, or the club, should approach next season, splash the cash or be reserved?
Vincent Tan says we have £20m-£25m to spend, do we need to spend that amount or is that the amount that Malky told him he needs ?
After the Forest game on Saturday, Iain Moody was asked is there just list A now and has list B been thrown away, Moody reply was 'There was only ever one list!"
Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:50 pm
carlccfc wrote:How do you think Malky should approach next season, in terms of spending money ?
QPR spent ten's of millions to try and retain their Premier League position and it is looking increasingly likely they will be relegated.
Reading on the other hand stuck with the players they got in the main and spent just a few million to try and stay up and they too look like they are coming down.
So with this in mind how do you think Malky, or the club, should approach next season, splash the cash or be reserved?
Vincent Tan says we have £20m-£25m to spend, do we need to spend that amount or is that the amount that Malky told him he needs ?
After the Forest game on Saturday, Iain Moody was asked is there just list A now and has list B been thrown away, Moody reply was 'There was only ever one list!"

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Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:51 pm
steve davies wrote:carlccfc wrote:How do you think Malky should approach next season, in terms of spending money ?
QPR spent ten's of millions to try and retain their Premier League position and it is looking increasingly likely they will be relegated.
Reading on the other hand stuck with the players they got in the main and spent just a few million to try and stay up and they too look like they are coming down.
So with this in mind how do you think Malky, or the club, should approach next season, splash the cash or be reserved?
Vincent Tan says we have £20m-£25m to spend, do we need to spend that amount or is that the amount that Malky told him he needs ?
After the Forest game on Saturday, Iain Moody was asked is there just list A now and has list B been thrown away, Moody reply was 'There was only ever one list!"

How can we finish in seventeenth place

Fill the goal line
Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:01 pm
carlccfc wrote:How do you think Malky should approach next season, in terms of spending money ?
QPR spent ten's of millions to try and retain their Premier League position and it is looking increasingly likely they will be relegated.
Reading on the other hand stuck with the players they got in the main and spent just a few million to try and stay up and they too look like they are coming down.
So with this in mind how do you think Malky, or the club, should approach next season, splash the cash or be reserved?
Vincent Tan says we have £20m-£25m to spend, do we need to spend that amount or is that the amount that Malky told him he needs ?
After the Forest game on Saturday, Iain Moody was asked is there just list A now and has list B been thrown away, Moody reply was 'There was only ever one list!"

Carl I know this might be controversial but John Toshack when in charge at Swansea got a load of players from the old first division and climbed to the top of the first division. Malkie I know has plans in place and to hold on to this division he will need to bring in seasoned players that still want to be in the top league.
This summer will see a clear out at most of the clubs if he uses his strong backroom staff I'm sure he will bring in quality.
Good luck Malkie we are 100% behind you
Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:02 pm
lets be honest here though, reading took the league with momentum, kebe was they key performer, and with le fondre and jason roberts got them up,
QPR bought "names" not people to play for a cause, malky wont make that mistake, he'll sign players he knows will fit in the sqaud, that might mean £5m or that might mean £25m no matter what i'll have faith in his transfers
Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:07 pm
bethanmattsgrampy wrote:carlccfc wrote:How do you think Malky should approach next season, in terms of spending money ?
QPR spent ten's of millions to try and retain their Premier League position and it is looking increasingly likely they will be relegated.
Reading on the other hand stuck with the players they got in the main and spent just a few million to try and stay up and they too look like they are coming down.
So with this in mind how do you think Malky, or the club, should approach next season, splash the cash or be reserved?
Vincent Tan says we have £20m-£25m to spend, do we need to spend that amount or is that the amount that Malky told him he needs ?
After the Forest game on Saturday, Iain Moody was asked is there just list A now and has list B been thrown away, Moody reply was 'There was only ever one list!"

Carl I know this might be controversial but John Toshack when in charge at Swansea got a load of players from the old first division and climbed to the top of the first division. Malkie I know has plans in place and to hold on to this division he will need to bring in seasoned players that still want to be in the top league.
This summer will see a clear out at most of the clubs if he uses his strong backroom staff I'm sure he will bring in quality.
Good luck Malkie we are 100% behind you

Malky will get players who fit his bill, players who will leave everything on the pitch, I don't think a bunch of "seasoned" players would keep us up.
Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:17 pm
whoever malky buys i will be happy with, 90% of transfers have proved he makes the right choices! no rush buys, fits in with what he wants, and knows the type of players he want! in malky we trust
Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:32 pm
Would he go for Sordell and Graham again or did he only see them as Championship players
Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:42 pm
We need to see who goes down and who fails to go up.
We already blew Hull out of the water when getting Fraizer Campbell so we know we can compete.
Need to look at who is def staying and who is going (leaving or on loan) and make sure we have depth for serious injuries.
The ethos Malky built, although I have been a critic at times, is crucial to the next step. QPR and Reading went up playing very fluid football and got thumped. Norwich, WHU even Swansea, went up and make it so they are, one way or another very tough to beat. Cardiff are that and that needs to continue. I still think people are underestimating Cardiff because we have rarely been out of second gear at times. But then we didn't have to be.
Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:47 pm
We need to strengthen for sure.
A GK
A RB x 2 (or at least someone who can play LB/RB)
A CB x 2
Winger x 1
CM x 1 maybe 2
Striker x 2
Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:56 pm
one thing we cant do next season is, score and defend, like the barnsley game, bad tactics. hope malky learned from that game. . 25 million . not a great deal in football terms, you need to find a few gems really, i cant see maynard and cambell up front scaring many defences. its a managers job i wouldnt like, apart from the money
Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:46 am
2blue2handle wrote:We need to strengthen for sure.
A GK
A RB x 2 (or at least someone who can play LB/RB)
A CB x 2
Winger x 1
CM x 1 maybe 2
Striker x 2
we dont need 10 players!
id say 1 RB, 1 CB (maybe 2) 1 CM, 1 winger, 1 striker.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:01 am
2blue2handle wrote:We need to strengthen for sure.
A GK
A RB x 2 (or at least someone who can play LB/RB)
A CB x 2
Winger x 1
CM x 1 maybe 2
Striker x 2
So basically a whole new team then, don't think we'll get that for 25m.
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x winger
1 x CM
Think that should do to start with
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:15 am
the best way to be is try hard to keep most of the squad together, bring in 1 or 2, keep the back bone of the team i say
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:42 am
Too much change could be dangerous.
A blend of what we have and added quality should do it.
Another defender in Barnet, an experienced midfielder and 2 pacey wingers I reckon.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:26 am
For me, we should try and keep the core intact, unless a signing can improve it significantly. A player of Ramsey's quality would be worth it, however a higher champ/lower prem CM quality midfielder would do more harm than good. One more CB (Barnett?) wouldn't go a miss though, but that's more for numbers that actually overhauling the starting XI.
Improving the flanks and up front is where we should focus in my opinion. Christ Brunt I believe is a free agent, he'd be a great signing. Phil Neville is free. He is getting on but his experience could be crucial in a dog fight (we should try and get 1 player with his sort of experience. Not necessarily a big name, just someone who's been there and done that).
Up front, Maynard and Campbell could cut it, but I wouldn't mind a big guy. Carlton Cole? Cheeky £5m for Peter Crouch? Andy Carroll needs a new home, though granted I'm getting a bit carried away here, but there are options.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:00 pm
I think Malkay may go in for Charlie Austin, a great goal scorer and will be hungry to play in the Premier League! Wether or not he will perform well in the Prem is another story but with the likes of Everton linked with him in January means he gotta be worth a pop and not too much to spend on his wages either.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:24 pm
Bring in a few ex-Premier League players from abroad.
The Kalou rumour is useless, can't afford his wages.
Would like to see if we can get someone like Chris Smalling on loan.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:00 pm
Stealthily, like a ninja
Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:21 pm
We need new blood for the next level but I would say 5 shrewd signings would do it.
Cant see Malky going for 'big names'.
We need a right back that's for sure
Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:25 pm
No big names because then your just paying a premium for nothing. Malky has shown he is good with making signings although could do with expanding his network as bit.
We need couple of defenders even if just for cover of the ones we have. A decent CAM, a wide midfielder and a striker.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:38 pm
We need to bring something new to the premier league table and be creative and tactical, I think that Malky has done very well by building a team around each other and will continue to do so which is a great start, now we need to really focus on creating an effective style of play and go into each game with a solid plan and with players who listen to it and we should be fine, if we buy like Swansea and have the attitude of Norwich then we can do well, if Malky cracks under the pressure, tan interferes too much, team spirit decays etc then we're screwed, for me, that's what sets the successful newcomers apart from the failures.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:29 pm
Lordsheep wrote:For me, we should try and keep the core intact, unless a signing can improve it significantly. A player of Ramsey's quality would be worth it, however a higher champ/lower prem CM quality midfielder would do more harm than good. One more CB (Barnett?) wouldn't go a miss though, but that's more for numbers that actually overhauling the starting XI.
Improving the flanks and up front is where we should focus in my opinion. Christ Brunt I believe is a free agent, he'd be a great signing. Phil Neville is free. He is getting on but his experience could be crucial in a dog fight (we should try and get 1 player with his sort of experience. Not necessarily a big name, just someone who's been there and done that).
Up front, Maynard and Campbell could cut it, but I wouldn't mind a big guy. Carlton Cole? Cheeky £5m for Peter Crouch? Andy Carroll needs a new home, though granted I'm getting a bit carried away here, but there are options.
The free agent list is always worth looking at. I for one had no idea that Brunt is a free agent at the end of the season. I'd like to see Malky look at the teams who are still in the Championship after the end of the season. That's the way Norwich did it - they bought Steve Morison who'd done very well with Millwall. Players like John Brayford, even someone like Kevin Doyle.
Phil Neville was - weirdly - the first name that popped into my head when thinking of players to sign. We're going to need some experience, and he's most certainly got it.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:43 pm
BABluebird wrote:2blue2handle wrote:We need to strengthen for sure.
A GK
A RB x 2 (or at least someone who can play LB/RB)
A CB x 2
Winger x 1
CM x 1 maybe 2
Striker x 2
So basically a whole new team then, don't think we'll get that for 25m.
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x winger
1 x CM
Think that should do to start with

They dont all have to start.
We certainly need a keeper as cover, more than likely someone on a free.
We certainly need a RB and id expect good money to be spend on one. I think Kev will go so we need cover as I dont think Connally will cope.
At CB we were short this season so we need to add further, maybe Barnett plus another.
A winger and CM for competition.
A striker to start, maybe we dont need 2 with Maynard now back and Campbell to hopefully be fit.
Problem is we need a strong squad, we cant just loan in next season like we did last season.
Its nothing to do with whole sale changes, of all the new signings to start I would think a RB, CB and Striker of good quality
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:14 pm
I think we have a relatively strong spine assuming we sign Barnett to add to what we've got. Another midfielder and striker with at least one additional wide player ( probably two) to compliment whoever we decide to keep.
A couple of full backs, hopefully young & upcoming types like Brayford & Lees.
I would like to see us sign a few experienced players mixed with some of the cream of the Championship/football league.
Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:59 pm
we dont need 10 players!
we certainly dont need another keeper... lewis is good enough for back up to marshall. i wouldnt waste money there.
right back definately, id like adam matthews back for that!
hudson, turner, connolly and if we sign barnett will give us 4 centre backs. taylor at left back.. i think we would need cover/competiton there.
a quality centre midfielder is essential.. i think we will use mutch and kim alot but they are young, i think we will need someone experienced and quailty in there.. another winger def. i think another striker, but not someone like le fondre etc... we have 2 foxes in the box in maynard and campbell.. we could do with a lambert type striker, a menance/handful and someone who can link up the play.
5 or 6 players max for me..
Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:39 am
carlccfc wrote:How do you think Malky should approach next season, in terms of spending money ?
QPR spent ten's of millions to try and retain their Premier League position and it is looking increasingly likely they will be relegated.
Reading on the other hand stuck with the players they got in the main and spent just a few million to try and stay up and they too look like they are coming down.
So with this in mind how do you think Malky, or the club, should approach next season, splash the cash or be reserved?
Vincent Tan says we have £20m-£25m to spend, do we need to spend that amount or is that the amount that Malky told him he needs ?
After the Forest game on Saturday, Iain Moody was asked is there just list A now and has list B been thrown away, Moody reply was 'There was only ever one list!"

Hi I am new on this site. I am a Swansea City supporter. I just thought I would get that bit out of the way

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I really dont understand why you feel you need to spend £25 million for summer signings if you have managed to get promoted as top of the championship. I may be wrong but I think Swansea only bought Michel Vorm and he was on the cheap! The only other players we had were loans (Caulker and then Gilfi Sigurdsen in the january window)
I was very proud at the end of the first premiership season to see more or less the same Swansea team that got promoted from championship, playing premiership games and more than just surviving the first season with no debts around our neck.
Even the second season we only spent money on players by using the money we got for players like Joe Allen and sinclair etc.
This is my advice to Cardiff..If you are going to buy a few players, invest in some solid defenders(something which Malky neglected this season). You have already spent a lot this championship season. (you have actually spent more on championship players than Swansea in premiership this year) thats crazy!
You already have a new squad so you dont need to go crazy. Besides which to many new players could upset the balance you already have in your squad. Trust me ...as a cardiff fan you will get a lot more satisfaction out of using the players you got now in the first season. And if you do well it will prove to the rest of the prem teams the squad you have are worthy of promotion.
Also my advice is to have the attitude that even though you are playing in the premiership next season, you should stay humble and not think of yourselves as a premiership team until you reach the 40 points. This was my mentality for Swansea first season.
Anyway good luck and see you next year.
Welshy
Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:50 am
Been reading the forum for a while so have finally decided to post.
You got to look at the players who will be leaving McNaughton looks certain to be leaving us sadly after the season ends and who knows about Lappin. Nugent will be going out on loan most probs, leaving us with Taylor, Hudson, Turner and Connolly. I would like us to sign Mathews, Brayford, Lees and Barnett. That take our number in defence to 8, a player for each position.
Transfer fees - 8mil
Then midfield has got a good core. With Mcphail Leaving and i would hope Cowie would follow, with players like Kiss and Ralls Going on loan. I'd like to see us sign Dorrans who was transfer listed in January and Phl Neville offering him a player coach role. Adding that with Whittingham, Kim, Mutch and Gunner
Transfer Fees - 3/4mil
Wide position is a hard one I think we should release Conway and Smith hard working but lack pace and Harris going on loan, leaving us with just Bellamy and Noone. I would look at loaning in Zaha? And not sure how fast J Williams is but he's young with bags of potential and Sako (cheap with Wolves struggling) that should do with Campbell able cover if needed.
Transfers Fees - 7 mil
Here's where the axe has to come down too many strikers all fighting for one position, I can see Malky playing a 4-2-3-1 Helguson and Gustede surely have to go and Velikonja is anyone's guess?? We still got Maynard and Cambell with the promising Mason waiting in the wings I would loan him out, I rate Him massivly! Trouble is its hard to find a potent striker for me I think a loan move for Carol is a no brainer is the chance presents its self something we've been lacking all season and just terrorised Man U defence. And then maybe Doyle, again I think they be forced to sell after there poor season or Austin
Transfer Fees - 5/6mil
Total - 25mil
That's 11 players that's not a squad overhaul that's replacing the players that will be sold/released and then adding a few.
Maybe people won't agree with the players I've selected or the values, but I hope they realise 6 players is nowhere near enough! IMO anyways.
Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:29 am
Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:13 pm
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:we dont need 10 players!
we certainly dont need another keeper... lewis is good enough for back up to marshall. i wouldnt waste money there.
right back definately, id like adam matthews back for that!
hudson, turner, connolly and if we sign barnett will give us 4 centre backs. taylor at left back.. i think we would need cover/competiton there.
a quality centre midfielder is essential.. i think we will use mutch and kim alot but they are young, i think we will need someone experienced and quailty in there.. another winger def. i think another striker, but not someone like le fondre etc... we have 2 foxes in the box in maynard and campbell.. we could do with a lambert type striker, a menance/handful and someone who can link up the play.
5 or 6 players max for me..
Generally agree about the positions and type of player we need.
Disagree we don't need a keeper, I think we need a better number two and Lewis can be third choice. I'd deffo want 3 keepers for the squad unless they think parish is good enough.
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