Would Swansea fill their proposed 32,000 stadium?

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Swans plan to increase Liberty capacity to 32,000

After another amazing season which has seen Swansea City win the Capital One Cup and secure a Europa League place they are now planning to expand their stadium.


Swansea City have lodged a formal planning application to take the capacity of the Liberty Stadium to 32,000.

The works proposed would see the extension of the North, South and East stands of the stadium in a phased manner over the next three to five years.

At present the capacity of the Liberty Stadium is just over 20,000 but the proposals submitted to the City and County of Swansea seek to capitalise on the club’s Premier League status.

A club statement said: “The proposals seek to help consolidate this status and remain part of the top flight for many years to come.

“Works that are proposed for the stadium would look to increase its capacity by approximately 11,000 spectators.”

Three phases of development for these works are planned.

Phase one will comprise of the expansion of the East Stand, providing an initial increase in capacity of 3,844 spectators but not including the completion of corner sections.

Phases two and three will be constructed thereafter to take the total increase to around 11,000.

“Clearly it is not possible to construct all stands at once due to operational requirements so the phased approach identified would seek to keep disruption to a minimum,” the club statement said.

“As part of the proposals the club has developed a robust travel plan reflecting the phased approach of the development with a comprehensive park and ride strategy being a key element of it.”

Swansea are ambitious to build on the two successful seasons they have spent in the top flight.

After winning promotion under Brendan Rodgers in May 2011, Swansea finished 11th in their debut Premier League season.

Despite losing Rodgers to Liverpool last summer, Swansea have continued to go from strength to strength under Michael Laudrup.

The Dane led Swansea to League Cup glory in February – the club’s first major piece of silverware in their centenary season – and his team are currently ninth in the Premier League with a European adventure to look forward to next season.

Swans bosses are keen to make sure a new generation of fans inspired by the Premier League and cup-winning deeds of the likes of Ashley Williams and Michu are able to see their heroes in action, ensuring a growing support for the club in years to come.

And it comes on top of a new Landore training ground – primarily for the club’s new youth set-up – and planning application at an advanced stage for another training site for the seniors in Fairwood.

“Once we get it (the application) moving we will go from there, but it all runs parallel to us still being in the Premier and it being right for the club,” club chairman Huw Jenkins said recently.

“If and when the final stage is complete the stadium will be a 32,000 capacity. The first phase will take the figure to 22,000 for next season.

“And then it will go to 27,000 with the first stage of the East Stand, starting near the end of next season and running through the summer.

“We have to make sure we do it right – but it will be led by how well we do on the field.”

The Liberty Stadium is currently the second smallest venue in the Premier League, ahead of Queens Park Rangers’ 18,500 Loftus Road.

But Jenkins has previously cooled suggestions the expansion – funded by the club – will lead towards a buy-out of the council-owned ground, currently run in a three-way partnership with the Ospreys.

He said: “Personally I don’t see any benefit in us owning the stadium.

“The relationship with the council is a good one for the council and the city itself and it is right for us as a club.

“It provides stability as it keeps potential owners you do not want around the place well away, and that is a great thing for us.”

If they continue to be successful then I don't see why not.

No, I genuinely believe they struggle to fill their existing seats at The New Liberty Stadium except for a few easily identifiable games a season and they will be hit quite hard by our arrival at the top table

Their catchment area is small and limited; drawing off the dissatisfied egg-chasers who are currently following the Swans in an effort to be part of their (undoubted) success to date

Our catchment area, of course, covers a reasonably populous area of Wales and we are in an area where football is far more part of our tradition and, by default, more sustainable so long as the product is of the right calibre

It is a little unfortunate but I believe even we would struggle to fill an extended stadium (say 35,000) for every game bar the top six or seven after a couple of seasons, so (genuinely) what chance do the Swans have?

Well, I don't think they'll be worrying William Hill on that score

If they keep going at their level they're at the moment then no question about it, but say they're in relegation fights then no chance.

Easily..

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I think they could just not every week.

Lets ask the 193 that went to Sunderland

Easily..

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

How predictable.

Not many on here give a flying one what you think.

Still fun to see you doing what you do best though Cedric.

Absolutely no chance unless they're playing us.

32 does seem a stretch, but a few more top 10 finishes would do it.

28 easily I'd say.

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .Of course i accept there are Swans fans in neathj &llanelli- but there are a significunt number of cardiff in neath compared to the oproximity to jacktown. If you look at the big towns surrounding Cardiff-barry,ponty & caerphily then the level of jack support there is next to nothing. my point is therefore is that the "swans" or jack bas*****s as i prefer to call them have no substantial support outside of their own TOWN & realistacaly have reached their maximum level of support at presen5t.Contrast that with cardiff (10th largest city in uk) with virtually whole of south wales supporting them has the potential to be one of the biggest teams in europe.....but that potential will only come with success on the field.My dream was always to to see Cardiff city in the premier league-but now that dream has ben forfilled then we have to look forwarsd ,there is no reason with success on the field & our massive support base that we cannot be in europes elite in the long terrm(why else would tan have invested in us-after all he`s one of the wealthiest blokes in the world

Absolutely.

How predictable.

Not many on here give a flying one what you think.

Still fun to see you doing what you do best though Cedric.

Not bothered what people think to be honest

Swansea's catchment area is not that different from ours. They are recent major trophy holders and a European club sat just outside the exlusive top 6. Not to mention the likes of Michu playing for them.

Like it or not they are a big deal. They sell out every home game be it Wigan or united. People love the premier league and love the way they play.

The truth is nobody knows how they will fare with a 32000 stadium but I see no reason why they couldn't fill it. We were only getting 14,000 crowds in the championship 6 or 7 years ago, the attendance increases with the success the club has and with a major trophy, European football and star players on top of their already 21,000 capacity crowds, I don't see why that wouldn't continue to grow.

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

Not for every game , but for the majority most definitely ! its surprising how many people dont even bother trying to buy tickets at the moment because the liberty is sold out every home league game and people cannot get a ticket
If there were more available they would go and not just for the top teams either

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

To be honest I only just read the rest and it's as ridiculous as the other statement I quoted.

"Nearly the whole of South Wales supporting us", "could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe".... yet we only manage 22,000 top of the league with £10 season tickets in the family stand. Madness. The delusions of some of you are quite frankly nothing short of amazing.

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

These are the types of fans that embarrass our club, please don't judge us on these people. They are a good few slices short of a loaf.

Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

These are the types of fans that embarrass our club, please don't judge us on these people. They are a good few slices short of a loaf.

You are one of the only cardiff fans who speaks with sense honesty and realism

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

No come on I'm bored shitless on a night shift let's keep the conversation going

Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

These are the types of fans that embarrass our club, please don't judge us on these people. They are a good few slices short of a loaf.

You are one of the only cardiff fans who speaks with sense honesty and realism

Trust me there are a few of us about, amazingly most of the mentalists seem to congregate on this board.

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

No come on I'm bored shitless on a night shift let's keep the conversation going

Ok, you're a gypsy who supports a small tin-pot club who's despite performances in the league and cup are shit. Accrington Stanley are bigger than you.

Cardiff city are bigger than Barcelona Real Madrid and man ure combined with a catchment area of the entire solar system.

Better?

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Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

These are the types of fans that embarrass our club, please don't judge us on these people. They are a good few slices short of a loaf.

You are one of the only cardiff fans who speaks with sense honesty and realism

Trust me there are a few of us about, amazingly most of the mentalists seem to congregate on this board.

Blinded by their bitterness and jealousy that's the problem

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

To be honest I only just read the rest and it's as ridiculous as the other statement I quoted.

"Nearly the whole of South Wales supporting us", "could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe".... yet we only manage 22,000 top of the league with £10 season tickets in the family stand. Madness. The delusions of some of you are quite frankly nothing short of amazing.[/quotd
YOU PRESUMABLY LIVE IN SWANSEA YES??? we live in neath-in my sons class in school city seasonn ticket holders outnumber the jacks 2-1- as i have said OUTSIDE of swansea you have no substantial support base

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

No come on I'm bored shitless on a night shift let's keep the conversation going

Ok, you're a gypsy who supports a small tin-pot club who's despite performances in the league and cup are shit. Accrington Stanley are bigger than you.

Cardiff city are bigger than Barcelona Real Madrid and man ure combined with a catchment area of the entire solar system.

Better?

You've spoilt it now

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

u
that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

To be honest I only just read the rest and it's as ridiculous as the other statement I quoted.

"Nearly the whole of South Wales supporting us", "could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe".... yet we only manage 22,000 top of the league with £10 season tickets in the family stand. Madness. The delusions of some of you are quite frankly nothing short of amazing.[/quotd
YOU PRESUMABLY LIVE IN SWANSEA YES??? we live in neath-in my sons class in school city seasonn ticket holders outnumber the jacks 2-1- as i have said OUTSIDE of swansea you have no substantial support base

you just made that up didn't you

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

No come on I'm bored shitless on a night shift let's keep the conversation going

Ok, you're a gypsy who supports a small tin-pot club who's despite performances in the league and cup are shit. Accrington Stanley are bigger than you.

Cardiff city are bigger than Barcelona Real Madrid and man ure combined with a catchment area of the entire solar system.

Better?

You've spoilt it now

Ok il tone it down, I honestly think you'd average between 29-31k. On and the plans is to increase to 33k not 32k.