The South Wales Derby...

Odds on that it'll be back next season, can't wait if I'm honest... That's about it from me, haven't been on here for a while, but your boys seem to have wrapped it up with plenty to spare. The only thing I would like to see is a bit more common sense with the travel arrangements, seems excessive being at the liberty hours before kick off for a one hour trip to your place.

Be the first fixture ill look out for.. Agreed on the restrictions, but it will never change - we've too many muppets amongst both fan bases who take the rivalry too seriously.

Be the first fixture ill look out for.. Agreed on the restrictions, but it will never change - we've too many muppets amongst both fan bases who take the rivalry too seriously.

Agree that there will always be restrictions, it's the length of time waiting around that I think they could address, probably builds up more issues. Have to say though, it's well policed these days, to the point that I have no issues taking the kids along, not sure I'd have been so confident in the days of Ninian and the Vetch.

I think the last few times we played them has been shit, all the travell rubbish and all hyped up the mot fearsome derby in history etc, nothing compared to Villa Brum and many others round the country. My first one to look out for will be Everton on a cold Tus night hopfully. And of course villa if the cunts stay up

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

Off course it's a derby

Theres always 1

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

Of course it is? Bragging rights for two premiership clubs based in South Wales.....

Bring on the Swans

it will be interesting next season providing we go up.

when the jacks were promoted to the championship there wasnt as much pressure on them as there was on us when we played. next season it will be a complete role reversal. they will be expected to beat us.

am i right in thinking weve never played each other in the top flight, ever??

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Liverpool v Man Utd - seen as a derby by both sets of fans.
Ipswich v Norwich - ditto

South Wales derby though ain't it. Hence the title of the thread.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

it will be interesting next season providing we go up.

when the jacks were promoted to the championship there wasnt as much pressure on them as there was on us when we played. next season it will be a complete role reversal. they will be expected to beat us.

am i right in thinking weve never played each other in the top flight, ever??

Certainly not in my memory, and I'm 55 In the 60s and 70s we usually played them in the Welsh Cup. Our main rivals then were Bristol City, at least in the old division 2. That's the point that I was trying to make, our main rivals change over the years. That is not, usually, the case in two-club cities. They are genuine derbies.

it will be interesting next season providing we go up.

when the jacks were promoted to the championship there wasnt as much pressure on them as there was on us when we played. next season it will be a complete role reversal. they will be expected to beat us.

am i right in thinking weve never played each other in the top flight, ever??

Certainly not in my memory, and I'm 55 In the 60s and 70s we usually played them in the Welsh Cup. Our main rivals then were Bristol City, at least in the old division 2. That's the point that I was trying to make, our main rivals change over the years. That is not, usually, the case in two-club cities. They are genuine derbies.

I would just like to reiterate that the thread is called the SOUTH WALES derby.... Yet you continue to talk about two club cities? Nobody mentioned a one city derby?

it will be interesting next season providing we go up.

when the jacks were promoted to the championship there wasnt as much pressure on them as there was on us when we played. next season it will be a complete role reversal. they will be expected to beat us.

am i right in thinking weve never played each other in the top flight, ever??

Certainly not in my memory, and I'm 55 In the 60s and 70s we usually played them in the Welsh Cup. Our main rivals then were Bristol City, at least in the old division 2. That's the point that I was trying to make, our main rivals change over the years. That is not, usually, the case in two-club cities. They are genuine derbies.

That's my cousins take on it, he's a cabbie in Edinburgh, and a Hibs fan, he says it's not the same thing down here, if Hibs lose the Edinburgh derby he has to put up with crap for weeks, if they win he dishes it out. I think his point is that being in the same city, there's no escape, unlike down here.

It's still the South Wales derby though, and I'm looking forward to it!

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

When you just said the South Wales derby isn't a derby you just added your self to the list of people on this board who know f**k all about football!

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

When you just said the South Wales derby isn't a derby you just added your self to the list of people on this board who know f**k all about football!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Wales_derby

It's a derby alright!

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

I think he means Notts Forest v Notts County (1994 was last time)
Gazz

Odds on that it'll be back next season, can't wait if I'm honest... That's about it from me, haven't been on here for a while, but your boys seem to have wrapped it up with plenty to spare. The only thing I would like to see is a bit more common sense with the travel arrangements, seems excessive being at the liberty hours before kick off for a one hour trip to your place.

Welcome back scotsjack, how refreshing it is to have a jack come on our site to talk all things football and football only, you put the rest of them knobheads that infest this board on a daily basis to shame, thanks for saying we are up but athough it looks nailed on i'll wait until we've crossed over the line, i think you'll understand why as for the possible derby next season and the pathetic travel arrangements, unfortunately, i can't see thngs changing due to the amount of morons who will be out and about for this game.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

Notts County

Last played each other in 2012.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

I think he means Notts Forest v Notts County (1994 was last time)
Gazz

Apologies! Not thought about Notts County for years! Think they played in League Cup last season. In fact the last time i thought about Notts County there was a certain Tank on the TV!

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

Notts County
Wrong again! Apologies......
Last played each other in 2012.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

Clear off or I'll tell Paxman where you sit in the Liberty so that he can bore you to death. When Paxman/Roath shuffles off this mortal coil he will probably find a way to bore people from beyond the grave. What a horrible thought.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Think the "south wales" bit gives it away, nobody is stupid enough to think its a "local" derby mate but a derby it IS same as newport would be, bristol and wrexham i'd agree are just rivalries. Only my opinion of course.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

Hope the mods change his name to that full time. Tragic Flaps.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

Hope the mods change his name to that full time. Tragic Flaps.

have you ever seen a woman with tragic flaps

most folks in Cardiff or swansea wouldnt notice any different if we did lose as your unlikely to see any opposition fans are you?
I've never seen a jack in a jack top in cardiff ever. Might be different in bridgend, PT, Neath etc the weeks after, hard work for those guys maybe. Is it true swanseatramp69 is a bluebird on a wind up? someone told me this is the case the other day, it makes sense 2bh...no-ones that daft.