So was i wrong ?

From the start of all this I have been one of the most vociferous people against the Re brand on here. I have fallen out with to many had arguments with good mates and have even had very heated words with some at games.
But i said i had been warned about the re brand a longtime before it happened and that i ignored it as someone trying to stir things that wasn't there.
But i was wrong i then put a list of the things that Tan had intentions of doing at CCFC and i put that out as a post, if i can find it i will re post it.
In that list i had put a name change as one and as per norm it got rubbished slated and i got told i did not have a clue what i was talking about. But it doesn't seem I was wrong was I ?
But quite simply its what CARDIFF CITY Fans do next is what is important now, and it doesn't look good does it ? A Gavier Poll and it seems the lure of the Prem is calling higher than our name
Will this be the tipping point for Fans ? To be fair i don't think it will and that is so sad. This will be the end of CCFC we will be dead. Tan is wrong about our history we one an FA Cup numerous titles, two more FA Cup Finals and one Carling Cup Final. But our history is ours not his and I for one am proud of it. Because it ain't all about the winning ! if that is what i was interested in it would of been Liverpool or Man U for me. But its the sense of belonging a sense of being a CARDIFF CITY fan is what matters to me.
So if you want to go and support your new team the Dragons then carry on but i will not do it myself.

From the start of all this I have been one of the most vociferous people against the Re brand on here. I have fallen out with to many had arguments with good mates and have even had very heated words with some at games.
But i said i had been warned about the re brand a longtime before it happened and that i ignored it as someone trying to stir things that wasn't there.
But i was wrong i then put a list of the things that Tan had intentions of doing at CCFC and i put that out as a post, if i can find it i will re post it.
In that list i had put a name change as one and as per norm it got rubbished slated and i got told i did not have a clue what i was talking about. But it doesn't seem I was wrong was I ?
But quite simply its what CARDIFF CITY Fans do next is what is important now, and it doesn't look good does it ? A Gavier Poll and it seems the lure of the Prem is calling higher than our name
Will this be the tipping point for Fans ? To be fair i don't think it will and that is so sad. This will be the end of CCFC we will be dead. Tan is wrong about our history we one an FA Cup numerous titles, two more FA Cup Finals and one Carling Cup Final. But our history is ours not his and I for one am proud of it. Because it ain't all about the winning ! if that is what i was interested in it would of been Liverpool or Man U for me. But its the sense of belonging a sense of being a CARDIFF CITY fan is what matters to me.
So if you want to go and support your new team the Dragons then carry on but i will not do it myself.

I'd be interested to see that post nukes.

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looks like time has proved you right

[I'd be interested to see that post nukes.

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Wow fair play.

uuummmmm

Full name change eventually - WRONG (SO FAR)
Red seats - WRONG
Red stadium - WRONG
Malaysian Players - WRONG
Fully corporate advertised Stadium - RIGHT? DONT REALLY GET THAT ONE
A full Malaysian board even Borley will be gone - WRONG
The staff in Malaysia will be coming home as its a total con - NO IDEA?
And please believe me. A total ban on the Ayatollah as they find it offensive. even though they do it to please the Fans.

still time for those to change tho, lets hope not tho

its not what he said its how he said it

truth be told red seat are coming, dragons will take over, bluebird will be gone, he has brought in alot of he men from malysia, and i think a name change will happen

Have I missed something when did he change our name?

I didn't say this would happen by 28/Mar/13 did I Give it time ! name change is in the pipeline, red seats red stadium will come. This will turn out to be a full Malaysian franchise .
There are those with there eyes open and those with them stuck firmly in the sand still thinking / hoping for the best and trying to convince themselves that everything will be OK in the hope we will be playing in the Prem, and competing with the best in the Land. For those type of Fans just grab your and enjoy your ride.

I didn't say this would happen by 28/Mar/13 did I Give it time ! name change is in the pipeline, red seats red stadium will come. This will turn out to be a full Malaysian franchise .
There are those with there eyes open and those with them stuck firmly in the sand still thinking / hoping for the best and trying to convince themselves that everything will be OK in the hope we will be playing in the Prem, and competing with the best in the Land. For those type of Fans just grab your and enjoy your ride.

What do you think the end result will be?

In fairness I'm all for the ban on the Ayatolla.

I didn't say this would happen by 28/Mar/13 did I Give it time ! name change is in the pipeline, red seats red stadium will come. This will turn out to be a full Malaysian franchise .
There are those with there eyes open and those with them stuck firmly in the sand still thinking / hoping for the best and trying to convince themselves that everything will be OK in the hope we will be playing in the Prem, and competing with the best in the Land. For those type of Fans just grab your and enjoy your ride.

What do you think the end result will be?

Only been told what i put. He will go as far as he is ALLOWED to go by the supporters.

From the start of all this I have been one of the most vociferous people against the Re brand on here. I have fallen out with to many had arguments with good mates and have even had very heated words with some at games.
But i said i had been warned about the re brand a longtime before it happened and that i ignored it as someone trying to stir things that wasn't there.
But i was wrong i then put a list of the things that Tan had intentions of doing at CCFC and i put that out as a post, if i can find it i will re post it.
In that list i had put a name change as one and as per norm it got rubbished slated and i got told i did not have a clue what i was talking about. But it doesn't seem I was wrong was I ?
But quite simply its what CARDIFF CITY Fans do next is what is important now, and it doesn't look good does it ? A Gavier Poll and it seems the lure of the Prem is calling higher than our name
Will this be the tipping point for Fans ? To be fair i don't think it will and that is so sad. This will be the end of CCFC we will be dead. Tan is wrong about our history we one an FA Cup numerous titles, two more FA Cup Finals and one Carling Cup Final. But our history is ours not his and I for one am proud of it. Because it ain't all about the winning ! if that is what i was interested in it would of been Liverpool or Man U for me. But its the sense of belonging a sense of being a CARDIFF CITY fan is what matters to me.
So if you want to go and support your new team the Dragons then carry on but i will not do it myself.

nukes,i posted a couple of weeks back,that c.c.f.c was being slowly dismantled,and this i feel will continue until we are a club that has nothing to do with cardiff city,but i to had replies telling me i was wrong or to just except it,i cant ...end of

I didn't say this would happen by 28/Mar/13 did I Give it time ! name change is in the pipeline, red seats red stadium will come. This will turn out to be a full Malaysian franchise .
There are those with there eyes open and those with them stuck firmly in the sand still thinking / hoping for the best and trying to convince themselves that everything will be OK in the hope we will be playing in the Prem, and competing with the best in the Land. For those type of Fans just grab your and enjoy your ride.

Nukes, you have renewed and you will be on that ride too. End of the day this was always going to happen while those most against the rebrand began to back Tans red vision by renewing. He think he's got 20k adoring fans which isn't the case. He knows what he can get away with this time, nothing will stop him as we will roll over as a fanbase collectively.

I didn't say this would happen by 28/Mar/13 did I Give it time ! name change is in the pipeline, red seats red stadium will come. This will turn out to be a full Malaysian franchise .
There are those with there eyes open and those with them stuck firmly in the sand still thinking / hoping for the best and trying to convince themselves that everything will be OK in the hope we will be playing in the Prem, and competing with the best in the Land. For those type of Fans just grab your and enjoy your ride.

Nukes, you have renewed and you will be on that ride too. End of the day this was always going to happen while those most against the rebrand began to back Tans red vision by renewing. He think he's got 20k adoring fans which isn't the case. He knows what he can get away with this time, nothing will stop him as we will roll over as a fanbase collectively.

Still hoping we can get our Club back. But if not this season ticket will be an investment.

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

Care to tell us where you got this information? Otherwise to me its just a load of bollocks sorry

In fairness I'm all for the ban on the Ayatolla.

Traitor

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

I personally believe none of that will happen and I will stand by that.

From the start of all this I have been one of the most vociferous people against the Re brand on here. I have fallen out with to many had arguments with good mates and have even had very heated words with some at games.
But i said i had been warned about the re brand a longtime before it happened and that i ignored it as someone trying to stir things that wasn't there.
But i was wrong i then put a list of the things that Tan had intentions of doing at CCFC and i put that out as a post, if i can find it i will re post it.
In that list i had put a name change as one and as per norm it got rubbished slated and i got told i did not have a clue what i was talking about. But it doesn't seem I was wrong was I ?
But quite simply its what CARDIFF CITY Fans do next is what is important now, and it doesn't look good does it ? A Gavier Poll and it seems the lure of the Prem is calling higher than our name
Will this be the tipping point for Fans ? To be fair i don't think it will and that is so sad. This will be the end of CCFC we will be dead. Tan is wrong about our history we one an FA Cup numerous titles, two more FA Cup Finals and one Carling Cup Final. But our history is ours not his and I for one am proud of it. Because it ain't all about the winning ! if that is what i was interested in it would of been Liverpool or Man U for me. But its the sense of belonging a sense of being a CARDIFF CITY fan is what matters to me.
So if you want to go and support your new team the Dragons then carry on but i will not do it myself.

Nukes as I have previously stated, I have re-newed my season ticket, however after the scarf fiasco last Tuesday, I will sell it at face value. I cannot justify supporting a team that as sold its soul

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

Care to tell us where you got this information? Otherwise to me its just a load of bollocks sorry

You know i can't tell you that sorry. But look a bit further up and what i said was in the pipeline even back then. Things have moved on sinse. Its up to you what you believe mate

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

I personally believe none of that will happen and I will stand by that.

Thats fair enough Chief. Just keep this thread for further reference

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

I personally believe none of that will happen and I will stand by that.

Thats fair enough Chief. Just keep this thread for further reference

Will do boss!

So basically none of that's happened but because BBC Wales put a loaded question to Tan that wasn't in his first language and released an article based around misquoting him you 're saying you were right

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

Wouldnt say you are wrong, i have no idea what his plans are. But id be very supprised with the Mill Stad. I understand the WRU are probably in debt, and its been a money loser for them, but even with 10 years in the prem we'd not get 70000 in the stad. If you want a ticket for Old Trafford you can get one for nearly any home game apart from the 4 big games and big euro nights.

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

Lets hope it's as accurate as your previous post

Conjecture......I think that's the word;

Playind at the millennium stadium - this always gets bandied about when there's big gate potential on matches but, against the rules I think. Having the MS as our permenant home in a couple of seasons is rubbish. But, if we grow to that kind of size in a two seasons then that must be a world record!! Do you really below Cardiff will grow to a 60k support in this short space of time?? It's taken us about 10 years to grow from 10k to 20k.

As for the conjecture....anyone can put the MS theory down and claim they've been proved right when we get ManU next season and the media calls for/stirs for the game to be moved to the MS. Any owner would then come out and say 'yes please to that' just for potential gate receipts.....but its against the rules so won't happen.

Conjecture......I think that's the word;

Playind at the millennium stadium - this always gets bandied about when there's big gate potential on matches but, against the rules I think. Having the MS as our permenant home in a couple of seasons is rubbish. But, if we grow to that kind of size in a two seasons then that must be a world record!! Do you really below Cardiff will grow to a 60k support in this short space of time?? It's taken us about 10 years to grow from 10k to 20k.

As for the conjecture....anyone can put the MS theory down and claim they've been proved right when we get ManU next season and the media calls for/stirs for the game to be moved to the MS. Any owner would then come out and say 'yes please to that' just for potential gate receipts.....but its against the rules so won't happen.

Playing against Man ure or Liverpool ETC we would sell out no doubt. How many of there fans would be there ? Thousands and thousands and that aint including the welsh ones

Conjecture......I think that's the word;

Playind at the millennium stadium - this always gets bandied about when there's big gate potential on matches but, against the rules I think. Having the MS as our permenant home in a couple of seasons is rubbish. But, if we grow to that kind of size in a two seasons then that must be a world record!! Do you really below Cardiff will grow to a 60k support in this short space of time?? It's taken us about 10 years to grow from 10k to 20k.

As for the conjecture....anyone can put the MS theory down and claim they've been proved right when we get ManU next season and the media calls for/stirs for the game to be moved to the MS. Any owner would then come out and say 'yes please to that' just for potential gate receipts.....but its against the rules so won't happen.

Playing against Man ure or Liverpool ETC we would sell out no doubt. How many of there fans would be there ? Thousands and thousands and that aint including the welsh ones

"Etc".....apart from ManU, Liverpool and Chelsea, I couldn't see there be any of the large scale interest in any others....yet. Maybe ManCity and spurs in about 5 years and possibly Arsenal if they turn it around.

OK any plan needs a conclusion. I put up what was happening next at the end of last season. This is from what i have received today make of it as you will. Shoot it down or bring it back in a couple of seasons and say what a clown i was or that i was right.

1/ Vincent Tan has already tried to change the name and he will be trying again.

2/ After next season Cardiff City or Dragons will be moved to the Millenium Stadium. Playing in front of a packed Mill Stad will look good on Malaysian TV.

3/ CCS will be no more. More than likely turned into houses. So there is the final master plan of what Tan wants.


This is info that I personally believe and i will stand bu it. Would that be a plan that you would like ? Or not. I didn't bother saying about the Bluebird as we know that will be well history by then.

Lets hope it's as accurate as your previous post

Yes what ever you say. His plans at the time. He wants the name change like i said and he is trying and will try again. So what i said is accurate and you know it. So stop being padantic FFS