Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:28 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:30 pm
Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:31 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:32 pm
djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:33 pm
Parnassus wrote:Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Saying he had £10m set aside to pay Sam ASAP. But then wouldn't offer him the £10m
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:33 pm
Parnassus wrote:Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Saying he had £10m set aside to pay Sam ASAP. But then wouldn't offer him the £10m
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:34 pm
Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:34 pm
Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:37 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:39 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:39 pm
djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Think the title should have been how many times has Tan told the truth as so far pretty much everything he says is lies.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:41 pm
Parnassus wrote:Carl was the broker between tan and Sam. £10m straight cash offer was never made.
Lie number 2.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:41 pm
Parnassus wrote:Carl was the broker between tan and Sam. £10m straight cash offer was never made.
Lie number 2.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:44 pm
Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Think the title should have been how many times has Tan told the truth as so far pretty much everything he says is lies.
Please back it up by saying all the lies hes said?
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:44 pm
bluedragons wrote:Parnassus wrote:Carl was the broker between tan and Sam. £10m straight cash offer was never made.
Lie number 2.
A bid of 10 million straight up was never mentioned nor promised. What was said was that there is 10 mill set aside to pay Sam. 3 offers of 10 mill were made but in seperat installments.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:46 pm
djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Think the title should have been how many times has Tan told the truth as so far pretty much everything he says is lies.
Please back it up by saying all the lies hes said?
Off the top of my head
1 - "we are not changing the colour to red"
2 - conversion of debt to equity
3 - setllement of langston
4 - stadium expansion
5 - training ground
Sure people will come up with a few others
I personally don't believe a word he says and his happy band of arse kissers will tell everyone its the only way to support him or the club will disappear etc. As far as I am concerned the club is disappearing anyway.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:49 pm
Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Think the title should have been how many times has Tan told the truth as so far pretty much everything he says is lies.
Please back it up by saying all the lies hes said?
Off the top of my head
1 - "we are not changing the colour to red"
2 - conversion of debt to equity
3 - setllement of langston
4 - stadium expansion
5 - training ground
Sure people will come up with a few others
I personally don't believe a word he says and his happy band of arse kissers will tell everyone its the only way to support him or the club will disappear etc. As far as I am concerned the club is disappearing anyway.
These can still be done so not exactly lies are they? So one lie out of 5
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:50 pm
djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Think the title should have been how many times has Tan told the truth as so far pretty much everything he says is lies.
Please back it up by saying all the lies hes said?
Off the top of my head
1 - "we are not changing the colour to red"
2 - conversion of debt to equity
3 - setllement of langston
4 - stadium expansion
5 - training ground
Sure people will come up with a few others
I personally don't believe a word he says and his happy band of arse kissers will tell everyone its the only way to support him or the club will disappear etc. As far as I am concerned the club is disappearing anyway.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:51 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:51 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:53 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Jinks wrote:djwayne wrote:Hate to answer a question with a question but.....
How many of the promises related to the supposed £100m investment in exchange for the rebrand has Tan actually kept?
Can you answer the OP? if not ask your question somewhere else
Think the title should have been how many times has Tan told the truth as so far pretty much everything he says is lies.
Please back it up by saying all the lies hes said?
Off the top of my head
1 - "we are not changing the colour to red"
2 - conversion of debt to equity
3 - setllement of langston
4 - stadium expansion
5 - training ground
Sure people will come up with a few others
I personally don't believe a word he says and his happy band of arse kissers will tell everyone its the only way to support him or the club will disappear etc. As far as I am concerned the club is disappearing anyway.
So from your points he hasn't lied. There was never a deadline that he had to do all that by. We know the training ground is planned to be built, we know the expansion will happen in the summer if we go up and we know he is currently trying to settle the langston debt (it takes two to tango). So the only one which is debatable is the debt conversion which was stated would be converted after the payoff of sam, so we will have to wait and see.
As for not changing the colour if i remember correctly after the letter TG posted there was a large outcry of fans wanting them back and happy for the rebrand. So that point is debatable but I'll let you have that one
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:54 pm
Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:55 pm
You belive that it will happen at some point in the future where as I don't. I think it was just a lot of hot air to get people on board.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:00 pm
bluedragons wrote:No point in debating issues when you jump to conclusions and can't understand reasoning.
None of those issues are lies.
1. The only reason we are playing in red is because once TG said tan would no longer be investment and we will have to find investment from somewhere else fans started crying out for tan and his red vision. He therefore decided to change his mind because polls suggested that is what the people wanted. So not a lie, just back by demand.
2.there are plans for a training ground just no agreement on land for it yet. It is ongoing.
3.Sam was offered 3 seperate deals and refused them all. Why would tan give Sam 10 mill straight cash for an unsecured loan. One of the offers was like 3 payments of 3 mill and 1 of 5 on promotion or something like that. But the truth is he made the offers and it is also ongoing. So no lie.
4. Debt to equity he discusses on his recent interview where he says he still wants to do the swap. Ongoing.
5. There are plans in place for stadium expansion. No lie, still ongoing.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:06 pm
Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:06 pm
Parnassus wrote:Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Saying he had £10m set aside to pay Sam ASAP. But then wouldn't offer him the £10m
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:10 pm
djwayne wrote:bluedragons wrote:No point in debating issues when you jump to conclusions and can't understand reasoning.
None of those issues are lies.
1. The only reason we are playing in red is because once TG said tan would no longer be investment and we will have to find investment from somewhere else fans started crying out for tan and his red vision. He therefore decided to change his mind because polls suggested that is what the people wanted. So not a lie, just back by demand.
2.there are plans for a training ground just no agreement on land for it yet. It is ongoing.
3.Sam was offered 3 seperate deals and refused them all. Why would tan give Sam 10 mill straight cash for an unsecured loan. One of the offers was like 3 payments of 3 mill and 1 of 5 on promotion or something like that. But the truth is he made the offers and it is also ongoing. So no lie.
4. Debt to equity he discusses on his recent interview where he says he still wants to do the swap. Ongoing.
5. There are plans in place for stadium expansion. No lie, still ongoing.
So as per my previous post nothing has been delivered that was promised all you are saying is its ongoing. How long would Tan have to drag his feet before you start to think this isn't going to happen?
I think the most likely solution is that Tan will get us promoted and already has a buyer waiting in the wings who will be even worse than Tan with regard changes but that won't matter as the spirit of the club will be already broken.
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:11 pm
Natman Blue wrote:Parnassus wrote:Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Saying he had £10m set aside to pay Sam ASAP. But then wouldn't offer him the £10m
Says who??? Think carefully now who your sources are!
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:12 pm
Parnassus wrote:Natman Blue wrote:Parnassus wrote:Jinks wrote:Tan and co have being called liars by a few on here so what lies have they actually told?
Saying there wont be a colour change then changed his mind..
Any others?
Saying he had £10m set aside to pay Sam ASAP. But then wouldn't offer him the £10m
Says who??? Think carefully now who your sources are!
Carl
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:18 pm
Parnassus wrote:Carl was the broker between tan and Sam. £10m straight cash offer was never made.
Lie number 2.