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If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World..

Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:45 pm

what does that say about the state of football in this country? They will have achieved it with a team made up of loan players, so the players don't actually belong to them and possibly one of the worst grounds in the league, as its had one stand closed, unfit for use! for the last 4 years! I don't want to be grudge any club achieving their dream, but surely there has to be certain standards that should be complied with?
With the huge riches that come with promotion to the Premiership, these current owners of Watford, could pull off one of the strokes of the decade. Spend very little money, not even on infrastructure and get £90-£160 million and leave Watford back in the shite! They stand to lose very little, at least in our case VT has committed huge amounts of money so far, so can't exactly walk away, when he wants. The more I think about it, the more that I feel the football league have yet again dropped a massive bollock. Will they never learn!

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:38 pm

Stop reading the papers regarding our owners, they have been in football for 25 years and spend millions on scouting, they are very good at what they do. Yes we have to many loans in the club but its working with a good mix of our academy. How much have you spent over the last few years? How much is your debt? How much is Bellamy costing per game etc?

If you honestly think the Pozzo,s will collect the premiership money and run your totally wrong, but if they did we would not be left millions in debt. Truthfully I was worried at the start but now loving the footie we are playing.

Good luck for rest of the season

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:43 pm

If Watford go up, I will congratulate them as its a great achievement for a small club. :malky: :malky:

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:51 pm

Would be our 3rd time in the prem... Not bad for a small club.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:02 pm

S.hit ground
Awful support
Tiny club who've cheated to the top.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:03 pm

Briggsy wrote:Would be our 3rd time in the prem... Not bad for a small club.


More than us, well done to you.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:05 pm

Kind of ironic the op mentions loans and how would they cope with 100+million off the owners to survive who own another club overseas, yet we are the king of loans as a club from overseas investment atm. Well done watford i would say for a smaller club than others up there.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:14 pm

horse_face wrote:S.hit ground
Awful support
Tiny club who've cheated to the top.


1- once the old stand is replaced it will be a nice little ground, better than all these boring same old same old ones, no dig.

2- cant argue with that, but we probably have 20+ other clubs within 20/30 miles who people choose to support.

3- cheated.... Boring.

4- cheer up !!

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:23 pm

Briggsy wrote:Stop reading the papers regarding our owners, they have been in football for 25 years and spend millions on scouting, they are very good at what they do. Yes we have to many loans in the club but its working with a good mix of our academy. How much have you spent over the last few years? How much is your debt? How much is Bellamy costing per game etc?

If you honestly think the Pozzo,s will collect the premiership money and run your totally wrong, but if they did we would not be left millions in debt. Truthfully I was worried at the start but now loving the footie we are playing.

Good luck for rest of the season


I'm not knocking your club, per se, I'm knocking the system that has allowed a club with a team made up of loan players to potentially gain promotion over clubs that have ploughed huge amounts of money into their playing squads. It gets worse, as you have terrible facilities, that are just about adequate for the championship, but should be an embarassment to the best and wealthiest league in the World.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:28 pm

It's funny because in 2010/2011 when we bottled it we were also made up of quit a lot of loan players....

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:31 pm

We weren't moaning when we used the loan system to our advantage, albeit with failure

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:45 pm

TheJoshider wrote:It's funny because in 2010/2011 when we bottled it we were also made up of quit a lot of loan players....


Watford have TEN players on loan in their squad!! Football league rules, are that championship clubs are allowed five at any one time. Which, in my opinion is still too much and yes some of us were moaning about having 3-5 loan players at the club. Watford have got around the rules by the fact that the players are all loaned from abroad, so under current rules are looked upon as foreign transfers, yet the fact is that they don't belong to Watford. The rules will be changed next year to stop those owners who own clubs abroad buying British clubs and loaning them players from their own clubs abroad, it would effectively turn British clubs into feeder clubs, if allowed to continue.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:49 pm

horse_face wrote:S.hit ground
Awful support
Tiny club who've cheated to the top.


I know a fair few Watford fans and their good knowledgable football fans and they were always a top flight side when I was a boy.

There loans no diff. to us a few years back.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:56 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
TheJoshider wrote:It's funny because in 2010/2011 when we bottled it we were also made up of quit a lot of loan players....


Watford have TEN players on loan in their squad!! Football league rules, are that championship clubs are allowed five at any one time. Which, in my opinion is still too much and yes some of us were moaning about having 3-5 loan players at the club. Watford have got around the rules by the fact that the players are all loaned from abroad, so under current rules are looked upon as foreign transfers, yet the fact is that they don't belong to Watford. The rules will be changed next year to stop those owners who own clubs abroad buying British clubs and loaning them players from their own clubs abroad, it would effectively turn British clubs into feeder clubs, if allowed to continue.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:58 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
TheJoshider wrote:It's funny because in 2010/2011 when we bottled it we were also made up of quit a lot of loan players....


Watford have TEN players on loan in their squad!! Football league rules, are that championship clubs are allowed five at any one time. Which, in my opinion is still too much and yes some of us were moaning about having 3-5 loan players at the club. Watford have got around the rules by the fact that the players are all loaned from abroad, so under current rules are looked upon as foreign transfers, yet the fact is that they don't belong to Watford. The rules will be changed next year to stop those owners who own clubs abroad buying British clubs and loaning them players from their own clubs abroad, it would effectively turn British clubs into feeder clubs, if allowed to continue.


Didnt we have a couple of under 21s (danny h20 was one I think) and then emergency loans later on JLS, Bywater etc.

Agree the system needs looking at but cant blame clubs for exploiting loopholes.

Stoke managed to get promoted with loan players and never looked back...

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:10 pm

The stand won't be replaced, it's gone the same way as Bazzinis corner hospitality area.

It is completely different to us a couple of years ago. 12 foreign players making the bulk of their squad is wrong.

Boring may be, but it's just facts.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:14 pm

Also Troy Deeney is a criminal and should be in jail. Scumbag.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:29 pm

[quote="horse_face"]The stand won't be replaced, it's gone the same way as Bazzinis corner hospitality area.

It is completely different to us a couple of years ago. 12 foreign players making the bulk of their squad is wrong.

Boring may be, but it's just facts.[/quo.


Look up the Pozzo family and stop reading the Mail or listening to Holloway, these are a footballing family. The corner was there long before Bazzini came alone by the way and will be completed soon, East stand depends are premiership or more numbers turning up which is fair enough.

I care as much for the England as much as you care for the Welsh team so as long as there give 100% I don't care where there from.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:51 pm

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/ ... velopment/ it won't be completed soon.

Footballing family but fundamentally it's wrong.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:10 pm

horse_face wrote:http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/9814948.No_time_frame_for_Vicarage_Road_redevelopment/ it won't be completed soon.

Footballing family but fundamentally it's wrong.



http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/ ... progress_/

As I said, East stand if in premier or 15k avg.

£80m debt not good either if been fair.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:14 pm

horse_face wrote:Also Troy Deeney is a criminal and should be in jail. Scumbag.


In that case with a high percentage of your fans!!

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:56 pm

Briggsy wrote:Would be our 3rd time in the prem... Not bad for a small club.


It also helps when you can go into administration, shaft everybody who is owed money and just start again.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:00 pm

You're a fruitcake lad.

Every year the Watford Observer publishes an article about the redevelopment.... Still waiting.

Our fans of course are known for savage attacks on innocent students, outside nightclubs. As the judge described:

'Three men in particular were singled out for what can only be described as a gratuitous beating.'

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:04 pm

Good luck to them.

As long as we go up, I don't mind who joins us.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:07 pm

Good luck to them. They've had a couple of seasons in the prem already.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:19 pm

Aren't they planning to buy Vydra and Abdi?

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:24 pm

cityone wrote:
Briggsy wrote:Would be our 3rd time in the prem... Not bad for a small club.


It also helps when you can go into administration, shaft everybody who is owed money and just start again.



Thank god Watford have never gone in to admin then.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:34 pm

Briggsy, at least you'll go up playing in your traditional colours.... love the way you're playing football, you're going about your business the right way, looking forward to what should be a cracking game down in Swansea next season.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:41 pm

they've become a bit of a joke, and what they have done shouldnt be allowed, but their owners will be laughing their way to the bank.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:47 pm

Forever Blue wrote:If Watford go up, I will congratulate them as its a great achievement for a small club. :malky: :malky:




I agree. And I'm sure (being a gentleman) Malky would be chuffed too :malky: :malky: