Peter Swan Says Hull Can Catch Cardiff!

AFTER closing the gap between themselves and leaders Cardiff to five points, Hull City fans will be wondering if the Bluebirds can be caught.

In my opinion, yes they can, and with the two sides meeting on the final day of the season at the KC Stadium, what a game it could be to end the season – a title decider, perhaps.

Cardiff do have a game in hand on the Tigers but there is no guarantee they will win

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The leaders haven’t really had a dodgy period, but after losing 2-0 at home to Brighton on Tuesday night, it could be the start of their shaky spell.

I believe Cardiff hit the woodwork four times, so it obviously wasn’t their night.

A lot will depend on how they respond to that defeat now, and Malky Mackay will hope they will get back on track with a win at Wolves, not an easy game by any stretch of the imagination.

City are certainly turning the heat up on the Welsh side and I can see Cardiff bottling it a bit in the next few games.

Of course, whilst looking up at Cardiff and hoping for a slip-up. City have to make sure they don’t slip themselves.

It doesn’t do any harm checking on the teams behind you in the table to see who is closing you down, and when City look over their shoulders, there are some good teams on their tails.

Despite their loss on Tuesday, Nigel Pearson’s Leicester will stay in the hunt, as will Crystal Palace, with Ian Holloway no stranger to promotion campaigns,

Then there is Watford, who have won five of their last seven, and look a real threat under Gianfranco Zola.

It means there is no margin for error, but I think the Tigers have shown by the way they played against Blackburn that they can match any side in the league.

City just need to focus on their own game, and if they do that, I think they can hold off the chasing pack and even overtake Cardiff.

I have said all season that I don’t think Cardiff are as good a team as their league position has suggested.

If they do struggle during the next few weeks, I expect City to take advantage and blow the title race open.

Of course they can, they are essentially 2 games worth of point behind and Watford are 3 games worth of points behind.

Who the f**k is Peter Swan?

Of course they can, they are essentially 2 games worth of point behind and Watford are 3 games worth of points behind.

Wrong. They are essentially 3 and 4 games of points behind as we have a game in hand.

Of course they can, they are essentially 2 games worth of point behind and Watford are 3 games worth of points behind.

Wrong. They are essentially 3 and 4 games of points behind as we have a game in hand.

No they aren't. You don't get any points for a game in hand. They are 5 and 8 points behind respectively, or 2 and 3 games worth of points. Those are facts

Regarding the game in hand, there are 3 possible outcomes (win/lose/draw) only one of those outcomes will change what is stated regarding 2 games behind for hull and 3 for Watford. The only outcome to change them to 3 for hull and 4 for Watford is a Cradiff win.

Of course they can, they are essentially 2 games worth of point behind and Watford are 3 games worth of points behind.

Wrong. They are essentially 3 and 4 games of points behind as we have a game in hand.

No they aren't. You don't get any points for a game in hand. They are 5 and 8 points behind respectively, or 2 and 3 games worth of points. Those are facts

Regarding the game in hand, there are 3 possible outcomes (win/lose/draw) only one of those outcomes will change what is stated regarding 2 games behind for hull and 3 for Watford. The only outcome to change them to 3 for hull and 4 for Watford is a Cradiff win.

Go to bed Barnett

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

If Hull win all their remaining games we would have to drop points in at least 3 games, not 2, for them to overtake us.essentially we have a 3 game cushion over them.

As you were.

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

If Hull win all their remaining games we would have to drop points in at least 3 games, not 2, for them to overtake us.essentially we have a 3 game cushion over them.

As you were.

I hull win all their games they would over take us if we won them all but lost 2.

As you were.

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

If Hull win all their remaining games we would have to drop points in at least 3 games, not 2, for them to overtake us.essentially we have a 3 game cushion over them.

As you were.

I hull win all their games they would over take us if we won them all but lost 2.

As you were.

Wrong

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

If Hull win all their remaining games we would have to drop points in at least 3 games, not 2, for them to overtake us.essentially we have a 3 game cushion over them.

As you were.

I hull win all their games they would over take us if we won them all but lost 2.

As you were.

Wrong

There are 3 points up for grabs in every match. Hull are 5 behind us.

They are 2 matches behind us in terms of points, these are facts.

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

If Hull win all their remaining games we would have to drop points in at least 3 games, not 2, for them to overtake us.essentially we have a 3 game cushion over them.

As you were.

I hull win all their games they would over take us if we won them all but lost 2.

As you were.

Wrong

There are 3 points up for grabs in ever y match. Hull are 5 behind us.
They are 2 matches behind us in terms of points, these are facts.

Stop swerving and qualify your statement:

If Hull win all their games they would overtake us if we won them all but lost 2.

Please show me the mathmatics of that statenent.

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No I was mistaken as you pointed out. However that wasn't the point I was making.

I said Hull are two games worth of points behind us, which is a fact.

You however think that a game in hand constitutes 3 points, which of course it doesn't.

So you are wrong.

I'll assume you realise you are wrong then.

If Hull win all their remaining games we would have to drop points in at least 3 games, not 2, for them to overtake us.essentially we have a 3 game cushion over them.

As you were.

I hull win all their games they would over take us if we won them all but lost 2.

As you were.

Wrong

There are 3 points up for grabs in ever y match. Hull are 5 behind us.
They are 2 matches behind us in terms of points, these are facts.

Stop swerving and qualify your statement:

If Hull win all their games they would overtake us if we won them all but lost 2.

Please show me the mathmatics of that statenent.

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Roath always twists and turns rather than admit he's wrong.

I was mistaken as you pointed out. However that wasn't the point I was making.

I said Hull are two games worth of points behind us, which is a fact.

You however think that a game in hand constitutes 3 points, which of course it doesn't.

So you are wrong.

So you admit you were wrong. We got there eventually.

Paxman? More like Pacman and the ghost (me) has just caught you.

As you were....

I was mistaken as you pointed out. However that wasn't the point I was making.

I said Hull are two games worth of points behind us, which is a fact.

You however think that a game in hand constitutes 3 points, which of course it doesn't.

So you are wrong.

So you admit you were wrong. We got there eventually.

Paxman? More like Pacman and the ghost (me) has just caught you.

As you were....

I admit my example was wrong yes.

But we are discussing how many games worth of points hull are behind Cardiff which is, in fact, two. You claimed it was three, which I proved you were categorically wrong.

Cling to anything you wish if it helps you feel better but you were quite clearly wrong.

As you were.

For someone so tech savvy your maths leave a lot to be desired.

For someone so tech savvy your maths leave a lot to be desired.

Hull 5 points behind.

That's 2 games worth of points behind. It really is reflecting badly on you that you cannot grasp that.

For someone so tech savvy your maths leave a lot to be desired.

Hull 5 points behind.

That's 2 games worth of points behind. It really is reflecting badly on you that you cannot grasp that.

Played 1 game more.

Heres the table:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/table

Hull - 62 points. Win remaining 13 games (39 points) gives a total of 101.

Cardiff - 67 points. Need 34 points to beat a total of 101. Thats 12 wins, or 11 wins and a draw out of remaining 14 games.

Therefore we have to lose at least 3 games to not be able to reach Hulls current potential maximum,.

Spin it whichever way you like its a 3 game cushion we have over them not 2.

As you were...

As you were....

For someone so tech savvy your maths leave a lot to be desired.

Hull 5 points behind.

That's 2 games worth of points behind. It really is reflecting badly on you that you cannot grasp that.

Played 1 game more.

Heres the table:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/table

Hull - 62 points. Win remaining 13 games (39 points) gives a total of 101.

Cardiff - 67 points. Need 34 points to beat a total of 101. Thats 12 wins, or 11 wins and a draw out of remaining 14 games.

Therefore we have to lose at least 3 games to not be able to reach Hulls current potential maximum,.

Spin it whichever way you like its a 3 game cushion we have over them not 2.

As you were...

As you were....

But we know that each team are not going to win every single game. That example is futile.

Hull ARE two games worth of points behind us.

IF we win our game in hand THEN it may change depending on results up until that game in hand.

RIGHT NOW Hull are TWO games behind us. This is a FACT. Not an opinion.

As you were

As you were

As you were...

Its not futile, its most relevant. Its the bigger picture.

As we stand it a 3 game cushion, not 2.

And more importantly 4 game cushion on Watford not 3 as finishing 2nd still gets promotion.

As you were x 4

Its not futile, its most relevant. Its the bigger picture.

As we stand it a 3 game cushion, not 2.

And more importantly 4 game cushion on Watford not 3 as finishing 2nd still gets promotion.

As you were x 4

No it's not.

If hull and Cardiff both lost every remaining fixture apart from hull winning 2 then hull would over take us. See the key number there TWO.

So as we stand it is two, depending on what happens with the game in hand it may change. But currently it's 2.

As you were X 5

You are both correct on this but in different ways.
Paxman, the current situation is that Cardiff are 5 points ahead of Hull and are correct in saying we are effectively 2 games ahead of them in terms of points. But.......
Polo is correct in saying that IF we win our game in hand then those 2 games ahead will actually become 3 in terms of points, this argument is irrelevant as there are 2 separate outcomes I've just confused myself but what I do know is that there is no winner.

As you both were

So I'm saying the situation as it is and polo is saying what it might be.... I might be a millionaire if I win the lottery.

No, both not grasping it. Our game in hand can be one of the games we can afford to lose.

As long as we dont fail to win in THREE games more than Hull we cant be caught by them.

If we lost all our games and hull all bar two neither would be promoted so pointless debating that silly poinr.
#3gamecushion

No, both not grasping it. Our game in hand can be one of the games we can afford to lose.

As long as we dont fail to win in THREE games more than Hull we cant be caught by them.

If we lost all our games and hull all bar two neither would be promoted so pointless debating that silly poinr.
#3gamecushion

But that's irrelevant. If they win their next 2 games and we lose our next 2 they are above us. That's TWO games to. Tach us which is what this thread is about.

No, both not grasping it. Our game in hand can be one of the games we can afford to lose.

As long as we dont fail to win in THREE games more than Hull we cant be caught by them.

If we lost all our games and hull all bar two neither would be promoted so pointless debating that silly poinr.
#3gamecushion

But that's irrelevant. If they win their next 2 games and we lose our next 2 they are above us. That's TWO games to. Tach us which is what this thread is about.

Still wont matter as long as we dont lose one more than them.

And you are talking "ifs". If I buy the winning ticket to tonights lottery I become a millionaire.

#3gamecushion

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That's not the issue though.

If we lose 2 and they win 2 then they are above us.

That's not the issue though.

If we lose 2 and they win 2 then they are above us.

Oh we are talking "ifs" now well "if" that happened, and "if" we win our game in hand we go back above them.

#3gamecushionnot2

That's not the issue though.

If we lose 2 and they win 2 then they are above us.

Oh we are talking "ifs" now well "if" that happened, and "if" we win our game in hand we go back above them.

#3gamecushionnot2

Everything in the future is an "if".

However 5 points is always going to be 2 games worth of points no matter what stage of the season you are in. And 5 points is always going to be 2 games worth of points.