THE PROTEST AND AIMS

Bit of an awkward one as I see it, to achieve anything the protest will in it's aims need to have a reaction. Some people hope VT will take it on the chin and make a backward step and revert back to blue and just accept a bloody nose. But if it get's us back o blue, some will say it's worth it.

He may however dig his heels in and take the opposite approach and say "if that's the case it's gloves off and I'll do it my way".

Now I have never met the man, don't need to, but from those that have, and know the man, the digging the heels in is the most likely outcome.
He could make things even more uncomfortable and if people cringed at the red scarf move, i'm sure he could throw a few more curve balls at us if needed.

I do worry about losing he bluebird, I worry about any extra changes that may be in the pipeline, but so far that's all they are is pipelines.

We went along with the red shirts and crap badge for the support that came with it, everything else is supposition and what if he does this scenario, but he hasn't done anything else to any major degree, and talking to him and keeping him onside may be the best way to keep it like that, but it's just my opinion.

I don't know about the timing of it, when would be the best time,having a protest before promotion and then hitting a run of bad form and failing to get promotion, will have a lot of people pointing the finger at the protest, because as we have seen, everyone looks to blame someone. personally (again) if we are promoted by the time we play Hull away, instead of the traditional fancy dress, everyone could be totally blued up, flags outfits scarves face paint whatever, to me that would get more publicity and also show our love for the blue tradition.

To me, and I did suggest it on the boards, wearing blue shirts and blues scarves on Tuesday would have been a show of our bond and love for tradition rather than a protest, that is why the throwing scarves on the pitch was a non starter in my eyes.
The show of blue didn't happen, but I still feel hat would have been the best plan rather than a protest.

I think we have more chance of compromise by communication and keeping him feeling loved up and part of things rather than isolate him and force him as he may see it into a corner, because sometimes when cornered, people come out fighting.

Let's just hope that when we look back on this time as history, we look back with happy memories.

Protest after season ends because nothing will change before.

Sadly I think he'll dig his heels in and we will regret the timing of this "protest"

The Hull idea is a good idea, everyone wear blue instead of fancy dress,

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Sadly I think he'll dig his heels in and we will regret the timing of this "protest"

Craig, there'll be no (real) protest

Tuesday proved that the vast majority have accepted the changes, so (democracy intact) we move on

We don't have to like it (I certainly don't) but we do now have to lump it

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

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Bit of an awkward one as I see it, to achieve anything the protest will in it's aims need to have a reaction. Some people hope VT will take it on the chin and make a backward step and revert back to blue and just accept a bloody nose. But if it get's us back o blue, some will say it's worth it.

He may however dig his heels in and take the opposite approach and say "if that's the case it's gloves off and I'll do it my way".

Now I have never met the man, don't need to, but from those that have, and know the man, the digging the heels in is the most likely outcome.
He could make things even more uncomfortable and if people cringed at the red scarf move, i'm sure he could throw a few more curve balls at us if needed.

I do worry about losing he bluebird, I worry about any extra changes that may be in the pipeline, but so far that's all they are is pipelines.


















Gwyn , I am very pro Blue and will never buy the new red shirt or anything associted with that stupid bloody badge.
However I have to say that what you have written above is sensible and practical. The minute we are promoted , we should then Blue up for every game thats left , hopefully e few games and we get promoted sooner rather than later. I am in for this idea!

We went along with the red shirts and crap badge for the support that came with it, everything else is supposition and what if he does this scenario, but he hasn't done anything else to any major degree, and talking to him and keeping him onside may be the best way to keep it like that, but it's just my opinion.

I don't know about the timing of it, when would be the best time,having a protest before promotion and then hitting a run of bad form and failing to get promotion, will have a lot of people pointing the finger at the protest, because as we have seen, everyone looks to blame someone. personally (again) if we are promoted by the time we play Hull away, instead of the traditional fancy dress, everyone could be totally blued up, flags outfits scarves face paint whatever, to me that would get more publicity and also show our love for the blue tradition.

To me, and I did suggest it on the boards, wearing blue shirts and blues scarves on Tuesday would have been a show of our bond and love for tradition rather than a protest, that is why the throwing scarves on the pitch was a non starter in my eyes.
The show of blue didn't happen, but I still feel hat would have been the best plan rather than a protest.

I think we have more chance of compromise by communication and keeping him feeling loved up and part of things rather than isolate him and force him as he may see it into a corner, because sometimes when cornered, people come out fighting.

Let's just hope that when we look back on this time as history, we look back with happy memories.

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Sad but true.

It probably is sensible to just support the team for now, and end of season let feelings known. i hate the red with a passion but love City. let them do the job first.

Totally agree lets put all our energy supporting Malky and the Team

anyone planning to protest should be buried imo

Gwyn , I am very pro Blue and will never buy the new red shirt or anything associted with that stupid bloody badge.
However I have to say that what you have written above is sensible and practical. The minute we are promoted , we should then Blue up for every game thats left , hopefully e few games and we get promoted sooner rather than later. I am in for this idea!

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Absolutely right Annis
There was that KCB group which started with good intentions but descended into a farce.I think the group disbanded becuase the main organiser couldnt get time off college
The main focus should be to back malky and the boys 100% and the adults arrange something meaningful after the season has ended
(love the blue at hull idea)

Protest after season ends because nothing will change before.

I hate the rebrand but agree with that . Also those against the rebrand who have boycotted , whilst I admire them they are much better placed to support their cause attending games . Lets face it , if I decided not to renew there would be 10 new 'fans' who would happily take my seat to watch prem football . So boycotting makes no difference to tan whatsoever , if anything it dillutes the atmosphere even more . Wrong time for a protest .

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Spot on. Have to leave Malky and the boys to it now.

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Very very true.

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Ann's fair play, you have stuck to your guns, unlike some fans saying they are against yet never turn up. Your there week in week out even though you disagree.

We've never always seen eye to eye on things but that was a top reply.

Top man.

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

here is one of the times that i will agree with you annis lets get promotion out of the way and see what the summer ill bring

Protests Tan will laugh his dictatorship head off.

I went to a total of 6 meetings last year, some arranged by our club, others arranged by fans, we had our chance and we never did anything about it.

TO LATE TO PROTEST, the protests should of been way back in August or last Tuesday night v Brighton was in my opinion the biggest chance of all, WE ALL SHOULD OF WORN BLUE.


Just now leave Malky and his team to get on with the job.

Here here Annis.

Men like Tan don't receive news of protests and he certainly won't receive fans letters and petitions. Very sad state of affairs but it's time to draw a line under it all because this ship has sailed last August when the fans didn't cause havoc before and after the Huddersfield game.

Bit of an awkward one as I see it, to achieve anything the protest will in it's aims need to have a reaction. Some people hope VT will take it on the chin and make a backward step and revert back to blue and just accept a bloody nose. But if it get's us back o blue, some will say it's worth it.

He may however dig his heels in and take the opposite approach and say "if that's the case it's gloves off and I'll do it my way".

Now I have never met the man, don't need to, but from those that have, and know the man, the digging the heels in is the most likely outcome.
He could make things even more uncomfortable and if people cringed at the red scarf move, i'm sure he could throw a few more curve balls at us if needed.

I do worry about losing he bluebird, I worry about any extra changes that may be in the pipeline, but so far that's all they are is pipelines.

We went along with the red shirts and crap badge for the support that came with it, everything else is supposition and what if he does this scenario, but he hasn't done anything else to any major degree, and talking to him and keeping him onside may be the best way to keep it like that, but it's just my opinion.

I don't know about the timing of it, when would be the best time,having a protest before promotion and then hitting a run of bad form and failing to get promotion, will have a lot of people pointing the finger at the protest, because as we have seen, everyone looks to blame someone. personally (again) if we are promoted by the time we play Hull away, instead of the traditional fancy dress, everyone could be totally blued up, flags outfits scarves face paint whatever, to me that would get more publicity and also show our love for the blue tradition.

To me, and I did suggest it on the boards, wearing blue shirts and blues scarves on Tuesday would have been a show of our bond and love for tradition rather than a protest, that is why the throwing scarves on the pitch was a non starter in my eyes.
The show of blue didn't happen, but I still feel hat would have been the best plan rather than a protest.

I think we have more chance of compromise by communication and keeping him feeling loved up and part of things rather than isolate him and force him as he may see it into a corner, because sometimes when cornered, people come out fighting.

Let's just hope that when we look back on this time as history, we look back with happy memories.

Gwyn

Did you follow your own suggestion and wear blue with a blue scarf on Tuesday?

Gwyn was the fan in the full red morph suit.

Bit of an awkward one as I see it, to achieve anything the protest will in it's aims need to have a reaction. Some people hope VT will take it on the chin and make a backward step and revert back to blue and just accept a bloody nose. But if it get's us back o blue, some will say it's worth it.

He may however dig his heels in and take the opposite approach and say "if that's the case it's gloves off and I'll do it my way".

Now I have never met the man, don't need to, but from those that have, and know the man, the digging the heels in is the most likely outcome.
He could make things even more uncomfortable and if people cringed at the red scarf move, i'm sure he could throw a few more curve balls at us if needed.

I do worry about losing he bluebird, I worry about any extra changes that may be in the pipeline, but so far that's all they are is pipelines.

We went along with the red shirts and crap badge for the support that came with it, everything else is supposition and what if he does this scenario, but he hasn't done anything else to any major degree, and talking to him and keeping him onside may be the best way to keep it like that, but it's just my opinion.

I don't know about the timing of it, when would be the best time,having a protest before promotion and then hitting a run of bad form and failing to get promotion, will have a lot of people pointing the finger at the protest, because as we have seen, everyone looks to blame someone. personally (again) if we are promoted by the time we play Hull away, instead of the traditional fancy dress, everyone could be totally blued up, flags outfits scarves face paint whatever, to me that would get more publicity and also show our love for the blue tradition.

To me, and I did suggest it on the boards, wearing blue shirts and blues scarves on Tuesday would have been a show of our bond and love for tradition rather than a protest, that is why the throwing scarves on the pitch was a non starter in my eyes.
The show of blue didn't happen, but I still feel hat would have been the best plan rather than a protest.

I think we have more chance of compromise by communication and keeping him feeling loved up and part of things rather than isolate him and force him as he may see it into a corner, because sometimes when cornered, people come out fighting.

Let's just hope that when we look back on this time as history, we look back with happy memories.

Gwyn

Did you follow your own suggestion and wear blue with a blue scarf on Tuesday?

Blue shirt but not kit, don't own one, wore the scarf when I seen how many others did coz I was scared and wanted to fit in, in case there were any big nasty boys near me.

Gwyn was the fan in the full red morph suit.

You promise me that was our secret, I'm tempted now to tell them about which side you were on during the waar.

Annis you are 100% right, leave it to Malky and the team to finish off the job.

Why are you worried about losing the Bluebird?
You're completely in for all these changes, and that will include losing our beloved bird

Bit of an awkward one as I see it, to achieve anything the protest will in it's aims need to have a reaction. Some people hope VT will take it on the chin and make a backward step and revert back to blue and just accept a bloody nose. But if it get's us back o blue, some will say it's worth it.

He may however dig his heels in and take the opposite approach and say "if that's the case it's gloves off and I'll do it my way".

Now I have never met the man, don't need to, but from those that have, and know the man, the digging the heels in is the most likely outcome.
He could make things even more uncomfortable and if people cringed at the red scarf move, i'm sure he could throw a few more curve balls at us if needed.

I do worry about losing he bluebird, I worry about any extra changes that may be in the pipeline, but so far that's all they are is pipelines.

We went along with the red shirts and crap badge for the support that came with it, everything else is supposition and what if he does this scenario, but he hasn't done anything else to any major degree, and talking to him and keeping him onside may be the best way to keep it like that, but it's just my opinion.

I don't know about the timing of it, when would be the best time,having a protest before promotion and then hitting a run of bad form and failing to get promotion, will have a lot of people pointing the finger at the protest, because as we have seen, everyone looks to blame someone. personally (again) if we are promoted by the time we play Hull away, instead of the traditional fancy dress, everyone could be totally blued up, flags outfits scarves face paint whatever, to me that would get more publicity and also show our love for the blue tradition.

To me, and I did suggest it on the boards, wearing blue shirts and blues scarves on Tuesday would have been a show of our bond and love for tradition rather than a protest, that is why the throwing scarves on the pitch was a non starter in my eyes.
The show of blue didn't happen, but I still feel hat would have been the best plan rather than a protest.

I think we have more chance of compromise by communication and keeping him feeling loved up and part of things rather than isolate him and force him as he may see it into a corner, because sometimes when cornered, people come out fighting.

Let's just hope that when we look back on this time as history, we look back with happy memories.

Gwyn

Did you follow your own suggestion and wear blue with a blue scarf on Tuesday?

If you read back, the suggestion was to those that felt strongly about getting back to blue, this would be the ideal chance. I have stated from the very start I am far from a traditionalist and have said as much to anyone who's asked, don't think I'm a typical fan because the colour has never meant that much to me, and my bond and love for the club was never linked to colour, in fact when I walked away from Ninian park I didn't even take a backward glance and couldn't wait to see and get into the new stadium.

like most there Tuesday.I was gobsmacked by the sea of red, I had concerns that I would see hundreds if not thousand of scarves being thrown on he pitch or all over the toilet and concourse floor, so no one was more suprised than me by the outcome.

Strangely I didn't see it as a victory for the red side, because I don't see it as a red side. I just want what is what is best for the club and it's future,rather than my personal preference and I still haven't seen many alternative yet alone better options yet. Didn't get any pleasure out of seeing what I seen and that result capped what really was a crap night.

I don't feel the need to apologise, coz that's just how it is for me, however If I did feel that strongly about something, I'd have put up a much better bigger fight and would be on their case 24/7, I'm sure Vt doesn't know who I am, or care, but I promise you he'd know who I was if i was up for protesting.

Why are you worried about losing the Bluebird?
You're completely in for all these changes, and that will include losing our beloved bird

Couldn't be further from the truth, didn't want to see any change, but as it was the best option for the club, my personal preference had to take a back seat, the club's survival is far more important than my choice of favorite colour, obviously not the case for you, but that is your own choice. Some may see that as selfish, but I totally understand.

If you were up to speed you would know in the first meeting with Simon lym, I was the one who politely passed the warning on about not making anymore changes.

But don't let the truth or a few facts cloud your judgement.

Personally believe a lot of Tans plans last year were born out of frustration and desperation at failing for a third time to get the promotion he was hoping would happen back in 2010. He obviously felt strongly that playing in red would change our fortunes, no other explanation that has been offered makes any sense. I think he felt he had to put new training grounds and stadium expansions on the table to get his way but if the club gets promoted and settles into life in the premiership well then I think Tan may become more amenable to compromise on the colour and the bluebird. However, with promotion I think he no longer needs to go through with debt to equity swaps, stadium expansions and training grounds unless they make good financial sense. The reality of playing in the premiership will be enough for most supporters to forget his promises.

Do people realise what a small number of people there are who are against red at all costs?

For example, the most people ever on this board at any time is 1871 in September 2011. I would guess than less than 20% of those were registered users of the board. Even if everyone was anti-red that would be a very small percentage of our season ticket holders and general support.

Tuesday night just proves that people are apathetic and don't care enough to make any effort to fight the red. If you organised a protest I bet you wouldn't get 100 people there. The press are trying to have a field day and make a story that just isn't there, as people can't be bothered to fight it.

We are red. End of. 18,000 red shirts and 20,000 season tickets says it all. We live in a democracy, and the reds have the overall majority.

Until we get new owners, that's the way it is.

now lets get on with the best season for the club in more than 2 generations.