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Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:05 am

Can't say I felt easy about the sight that greeted me on Tuesday night when I walked in the stadium, but now it's about supporting the team if you are still attending games. As much as some of us don't like it we must stay together and get behind the boys. Personally I believe the majority of those scarfs will just end up in the bottom of people wardrobe and won't be seen again.

I can't walk away from something I love so much especially in its hour of need. Supporters need to be strong, patient, and supportive of the team, each other, and the staff of the club who are working hard behind the scenes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a view and we should respect that with dignity, and etiquette. We should also respect the views of our supporters who feel they can't face another game whilst our colour is red, and the badge is primary a dragon, but they also have to respect the supporters who are still attending games neither they or us who attend are inferior or superior to one and other.

The supporters groups will continue to carry out the work their membership want us to do, and in the CCSC mandate set by its members last year the majority wanted to accept the change, but over a period of time come to a compromise to get back to our colour blue and the more recent badge which we will continue to do.

There is a time, a place, and a way to do things and all three have to be right, all I can say again is to be patient, tolerate each other, and most of believe do not lose that belief.

Cmon lets get behind the team OK its not ideal for some of you, but its our team and our beer mat :D Bluebirds :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:08 am

vince.alm wrote:Can't say I felt easy about the sight that greeted me on Tuesday night when I walked in the stadium, but now it's about supporting the team if you are still attending games. As much as some of us don't like it we must stay together and get behind the boys. Personally I believe the majority of those scarfs will just end up in the bottom of people wardrobe and won't be seen again.

I can't walk away from something I love so much especially in its hour of need. Supporters need to be strong, patient, and supportive of the team, each other, and the staff of the club who are working hard behind the scenes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a view and we should respect that with dignity, and etiquette. We should also respect the views of our supporters who feel they can't face another game whilst our colour is red, and the badge is primary a dragon, but they also have to respect the supporters who are still attending games neither they or us who attend are inferior or superior to one and other.

The supporters groups will continue to carry out the work their membership want us to do, and in the CCSC mandate set by its members last year the majority wanted to accept the change, but over a period of time come to a compromise to get back to our colour blue and the more recent badge which we will continue to do.

There is a time, a place, and a way to do things and all three have to be right, all I can say again is to be patient, tolerate each other, and most of believe do not lose that belief.

Cmon lets get behind the team OK its not ideal for some of you, but its our team and our beer mat :D Bluebirds :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Good post vince, this is the main thing the team & mm, but i doubt two forums will unsettle the team tbh :ayatollah:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:44 am

Cmon lets get behind the team OK its not ideal for some of you, but its our team and our beer mat Bluebirds

Yes Vince,agree. But until tuesday, and all that red, my main concern was the beer mat, but now I am really against the red shirt as well. Keep thinking about them changing the seats to red - that could be the finisher for me.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:13 am

The only person unsettling the team is Tan with his shit ideas off the pitch that has caused a stir. It's the sort of stupidity one would expect from Shebby Singh at Blackburn.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:19 am

As Vince has said there is a time and a place for things to be done.

At this TIME we must put the blue/red to one side and concentarte 100% behind the team. What did suprise me on Tuesday was the lack of vocal support we gave the boys - this has to change, starting Sunday.

We have to be that 12th man at EVERY game - then and only then when we get to that PLACE we have dreamed of for many years, we should take stock of the situtaion and discuss options to try and persuade Tan to listen to the fans and negotiate in an open forum.

So on Sunday - no Blue/Red divison of the fans just CCFC as a whole!!! :malky: :malky:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:23 am

Absolutely spot on, they did everything right against Brighton bar score. It was inevitable that Cardiff would lose 1 or more of their remaining games in what is a competitive league. We need to get behind the team for the remaining games..win or lose !

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:26 am

The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:29 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.


Huge difference between discussing the matter amicably and taking immediate action. I think you will also find Steve mentioned a forum in the future to discuss new possible changes, so lets just wait.

I personally, would like fans to concentrate on the team and promotion and we will sort out the re-brand and possible changes once the options are announced.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:32 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.


Huge difference between discussing the matter amicably and taking immediate action. I think you will also find Steve mentioned a forum in the future to discuss new possible changes, so lets just wait.

I personally, would like fans to concentrate on the team and promotion and we will sort out the re-brand and possible changes once the options are announced.


Will be too late, as I've already stated.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:36 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.


Huge difference between discussing the matter amicably and taking immediate action. I think you will also find Steve mentioned a forum in the future to discuss new possible changes, so lets just wait.

I personally, would like fans to concentrate on the team and promotion and we will sort out the re-brand and possible changes once the options are announced.


Will be too late, as I've already stated.


Of course i should have realised, after all the posts Ive read on here from you, VT has decided to contact you directly to discuss these changes with you and you alone.

Sorry, my bad.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:39 am

Not at all, but if you will have read - I conversed with Steve Borley on this issue via twitter. Designs of kits/crests etc have to be submitted by April.

Therefore, the end of the season would be too late. :thumbright:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:44 am

We as fans will be in a much stronger position when we get to the Premier League. My reasons for thinking this are as follows:

1. We would not have to be worried abou Tan pulling out - as we did this season.

2 . Our revenue as such would increase and make us more attractive to a new investor/buyer. What better way for a "new invester" to win the fans over by changing back to blue etc.

3. We would be truly in a world wide media exposure - which would give more "voice" to the fans. Also Tan would not want to be involved in a media circus as is the situation with Blackburn, for different reasons of course.

4. I still also believe that there may be a compromise for next season already planned. Tan, I think, is not some devilish dictator, he may have been badly advised. Hopefully these issues have been pointed out to him and we may have some "positive changes".

A good tactician fights his battles when he has a chance of winning. Patience..................... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:55 am

I'd hope to agree with you on a compromise, but Tuesday night showed that he's determined to see this red through.

So much so, he's happy to put a few STs out there for free.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:01 am

Chuckles, don't worry mate. People will see the error of their ways soon enough. You leave things too long and take this laid back attitude of approaching the situation and Tan will take full advantage.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:01 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.



On the kit front either Steve has not read the rules or he has misunderstood them. New kits have to be registered in the close season i.e. between the end of the current one and the start of the new one not by April.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:04 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.


Huge difference between discussing the matter amicably and taking immediate action. I think you will also find Steve mentioned a forum in the future to discuss new possible changes, so lets just wait.

I personally, would like fans to concentrate on the team and promotion and we will sort out the re-brand and possible changes once the options are announced.



A fans forum has been promised since the beginning of this season and nothing has happened.

No point in having one after a decison has been made , new kit already registered , replacement red seats and exterior cladding ordered etc. as the club will simply say too late to discuss that.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:10 am

since62 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:The correct time to discuss it is now. Borley confirmed on twitter that designs of kit etc had to be in by April, if we leave l that to the end of the season, it will be far too late.

I hardly see how people discussing rebranding on an Internet forum will affect the team on the pitch though.



On the kit front either Steve has not read the rules or he has misunderstood them. New kits have to be registered in the close season i.e. between the end of the current one and the start of the new one not by April.


The difference is the kit supplier puma or whoever it may be , release designs which need agreeing on by April .
Kit colour and crest is not so important at that time they are more like end of may .
Every club has to produce club colours and crests to the fa at least 60days before the start of the upcoming season so normally around middle of June .

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:13 am

What a sad state of affair our club has turned into, this should be the best time ever, should,nt it :(

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:18 am

Blueboys1927 wrote:What a sad state of affair our club has turned into, this should be the best time ever, should,nt it :(


Yes it should but its been taken away from us by one man after years of heartbreak , cardiff city are not going to the premier league cardiff franchise are !

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:27 am

vince.alm wrote:Can't say I felt easy about the sight that greeted me on Tuesday night when I walked in the stadium, but now it's about supporting the team if you are still attending games. As much as some of us don't like it we must stay together and get behind the boys. Personally I believe the majority of those scarfs will just end up in the bottom of people wardrobe and won't be seen again.

I can't walk away from something I love so much especially in its hour of need. Supporters need to be strong, patient, and supportive of the team, each other, and the staff of the club who are working hard behind the scenes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a view and we should respect that with dignity, and etiquette. We should also respect the views of our supporters who feel they can't face another game whilst our colour is red, and the badge is primary a dragon, but they also have to respect the supporters who are still attending games neither they or us who attend are inferior or superior to one and other.

The supporters groups will continue to carry out the work their membership want us to do, and in the CCSC mandate set by its members last year the majority wanted to accept the change, but over a period of time come to a compromise to get back to our colour blue and the more recent badge which we will continue to do.

There is a time, a place, and a way to do things and all three have to be right, all I can say again is to be patient, tolerate each other, and most of believe do not lose that belief.

Cmon lets get behind the team OK its not ideal for some of you, but its our team and our beer mat :D Bluebirds :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


If the supporters clubs and trusts weren't such shithouses and stood together at the start next to the fans this would not have got this far !
We have to be patient ? We have been now we have a sea of red in the ground, the cladding will be red very soon and the seats will be changed . Once this happens there is NO going back .
Get your so called supporters club together see if you can make a backbone between the lot of you and fight for the club you supposedly love before the life support machine is turned off !

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:35 am

Regarding the April deadline it was more aimed at Puma, rather than the FA.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:00 pm

Fusilier23 wrote:We as fans will be in a much stronger position when we get to the Premier League. My reasons for thinking this are as follows:

1. We would not have to be worried abou Tan pulling out - as we did this season.

2 . Our revenue as such would increase and make us more attractive to a new investor/buyer. What better way for a "new invester" to win the fans over by changing back to blue etc.

3. We would be truly in a world wide media exposure - which would give more "voice" to the fans. Also Tan would not want to be involved in a media circus as is the situation with Blackburn, for different reasons of course.

4. I still also believe that there may be a compromise for next season already planned. Tan, I think, is not some devilish dictator, he may have been badly advised. Hopefully these issues have been pointed out to him and we may have some "positive changes".

A good tactician fights his battles when he has a chance of winning. Patience..................... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:


Totally agree with this ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:30 pm

WE As fans have nothing to do with this club anymore ,this club is now just a vehicle for tan & co to make vast amounts of money in Asia ,if and a big if we go to the premier league , I really think that giving out scarves this week will have had a bad effect on how our supporters see each other and quite possibly end up having a kiss of death scenario on the pitch , after waiting since 1968(when I started supporting) for us to be in the top flight I can go honestly say I don't give a shit if we go up or not, as things stand the whole feel good factor of this promotion push is rapidly disappearing , like our beloved CARDIFF CITY FC such a shame.

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:59 pm

colli wrote:WE As fans have nothing to do with this club anymore ,this club is now just a vehicle for tan & co to make vast amounts of money in Asia ,if and a big if we go to the premier league , I really think that giving out scarves this week will have had a bad effect on how our supporters see each other and quite possibly end up having a kiss of death scenario on the pitch , after waiting since 1968(when I started supporting) for us to be in the top flight I can go honestly say I don't give a shit if we go up or not, as things stand the whole feel good factor of this promotion push is rapidly disappearing , like our beloved CARDIFF CITY FC such a shame.


Don't give up we as fans CAN make a difference , the real cardiff city will return at some point :ayatollah:
I have the same feelings as you towards this season half of me wants them to fail and bottle it miserably the other is the love I still have for the club wanting it to be successful .
Don't care this year either way :cry:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:11 pm

vince.alm wrote:Can't say I felt easy about the sight that greeted me on Tuesday night when I walked in the stadium, but now it's about supporting the team if you are still attending games. As much as some of us don't like it we must stay together and get behind the boys. Personally I believe the majority of those scarfs will just end up in the bottom of people wardrobe and won't be seen again.

I can't walk away from something I love so much especially in its hour of need. Supporters need to be strong, patient, and supportive of the team, each other, and the staff of the club who are working hard behind the scenes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a view and we should respect that with dignity, and etiquette. We should also respect the views of our supporters who feel they can't face another game whilst our colour is red, and the badge is primary a dragon, but they also have to respect the supporters who are still attending games neither they or us who attend are inferior or superior to one and other.

The supporters groups will continue to carry out the work their membership want us to do, and in the CCSC mandate set by its members last year the majority wanted to accept the change, but over a period of time come to a compromise to get back to our colour blue and the more recent badge which we will continue to do.

There is a time, a place, and a way to do things and all three have to be right, all I can say again is to be patient, tolerate each other, and most of believe do not lose that belief.

Cmon lets get behind the team OK its not ideal for some of you, but its our team and our beer mat :D Bluebirds :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Spot on Vince. :ayatollah:

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:14 pm

So if you dont care, why bother going?

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:26 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:So if you dont care, why bother going?


Am I not allowed to use something I have paid for ?
Something I have paid for and enjoyed for 30years ?
Do I now have to change a big part of my life because some foreigner decides our club is not good enough for him?
I can and will go to the games I have paid for , I will wear blue , I will chant bluebirds and I will never give into the dictator !
Tan will never get a total rebrand because I and many others will never give into it !
I can still go and enjoy a football game as a now neutral fan !
I want the team to do well but I also want this new guise of a club and its owners to fail .

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:35 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:So if you dont care, why bother going?


f**k up Craig. People pay their money their entitled to an opinion.

Just cos it doesnt agree with you are you persistanly querying why they are still going?

Condesending tw*t
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Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:35 pm

thomasblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:So if you dont care, why bother going?


Am I not allowed to use something I have paid for ?
Something I have paid for and enjoyed for 30years ?
Do I now have to change a big part of my life because some foreigner decides our club is not good enough for him?
I can and will go to the games I have paid for , I will wear blue , I will chant bluebirds and I will never give into the dictator !
Tan will never get a total rebrand because I and many others will never give into it !
I can still go and enjoy a football game as a now neutral fan !
I want the team to do well but I also want this new guise of a club and its owners to fail .


Well said

Re: Lets get behind the team no need to unsettle them

Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:06 pm

I agree we need to get behind the team. Moan about the rebrand after the match but not in the 90 minutes.

If anything the 90 minutes when the match is on, and I am getting behind the lads, it makes it easier to forget about the rebrand.