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Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:07 pm

Lovely booklet at the DWP :roll: *****

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Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:20 pm

What's so lovely about it? I mean, its not un-lovely, it just looks like a standard DWP booklet.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:41 pm

Ben wrote:Lovely booklet at the DWP :roll: *****

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"leave your country and come milk ours" that would be a better title

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:01 pm

What is the problem with this?

People who come from abroad legally may require various benefits and that leaflet is to educate and inform :?

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:09 pm

OhhhGa wrote:What is the problem with this?

People who come from abroad legally may require various benefits and that leaflet is to educate and inform :?


nothing its basic scaremongering from those anti-immigration types.
this leaflet explains our benefit system and who is entitled for what, it isnt just given to immigrants its given to British citizens who return to this country from working abroad and explains how their benefits like JSA can be effected because they have worked abroad or if they havent kept up with NI contributions, but because it has an Indian family on the front cover and the title, people automatically assume its giving advice on how immigrants can sponge off our country

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:11 pm

OUTRAGE!

Get over yourselves, its a normal benefits booklet.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:59 pm

what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:01 pm

citybluechris wrote:what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??


Only if they were coming from abroad....

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:06 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
citybluechris wrote:what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??


Only if they were coming from abroad....


nothing to do with race ! the british tax payer gets feck all, yet people who come into this country get everything and all help under the sun, I can garentee you if i was to lose my job tomorrow id get no help! and would struggle to have a house over my head, can you honestly say the same if the boot was on the other foot?

too many of the ccmb lot on here, pc do gooders who think life is perfect in thier perfect little bubble

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:14 pm

Ben wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
citybluechris wrote:what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??


Only if they were coming from abroad....


nothing to do with race ! the british tax payer gets feck all, yet people who come into this country get everything and all help under the sun, I can garentee you if i was to lose my job tomorrow id get no help! and would struggle to have a house over my head, can you honestly say the same if the boot was on the other foot?

too many of the ccmb lot on here, pc do gooders who think life is perfect in thier perfect little bubble


Bullsh*t.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:17 pm

samdm94 wrote:
Ben wrote:Lovely booklet at the DWP :roll: *****

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"leave your country and come milk ours" that would be a better title

Just out of of interest, Let's say if all 3 were born in Wales - would you still have the same opinion?

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:26 pm

Whether they are entitled to benefits or not it should not be on a leaflet basically advertising it as if it is some sort of way of life.

'Come to Britain and better your life' would have been more appropriate.

I can assure you now if I was an immigrant and saw that leaflet I'd be in the back of a French truck before Cardiff got promoted. :lol:

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Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:31 pm

Just out of of interest, Let's say if all 3 were born in Wales - would you still have the same opinion?


no, We are britian, we pay our way, pay for the bums and twats who don't want to work, just how we go about this shit life, but to pay for feckers to that are not even from this country and give them houses and benefits is disgusting!! and don't forget they arn't allowed to work if they claim asylum , the whole thing sticks and people like me who go out to work, pay my taxes, pay my insurences, do everything by the book GET SHAFFTED AND WHO ARE THE REAL C**TS. THEY ALL LAUGH AT US, HATE US ETC

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Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:32 pm

Ben wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
citybluechris wrote:what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??


Only if they were coming from abroad....


nothing to do with race ! the british tax payer gets feck all, yet people who come into this country get everything and all help under the sun, I can garentee you if i was to lose my job tomorrow id get no help! and would struggle to have a house over my head, can you honestly say the same if the boot was on the other foot?

too many of the ccmb lot on here, pc do gooders who think life is perfect in thier perfect little bubble


Ben I sought of agree with you.

If you lost your job tomorrow you would receive Jobs Seekers Allowance provided your unemployment was not your own fault.

However, that is only £60 odd a week. If you have savings or own a property then you would get no further help until those assets were depleted to around £6000. The trouble is most people who arrive here as immigrants/asylum seekers have no assets when they arrive and therefore are entitled to more help than you would be (assuming you do have assets)

Also they have a much better funded support unit. Nearly every town has an immigration advice centre and its ‘paid’ staff know every benefit which is available and tailor those who go there so that they fit the criteria to receive the maximum amount of benefit.

In contrast 'British' people only have Citizen's Advice Centres (which anyone can use unlike the immigration advice centres) and they are staffed by unpaid volunteers who might not know the full details of the benefit system and even if they are up to speed they will only hand out leaflets on how to claim benefits without actually explaining the process or entitlement.

So it is true that immigrants are not entitled to more benefits than indigenous British Citizens, but they do have a far better support system which helps them claim the money that’s available.

Personally I think that is a shocking state of affairs and whilst the benefits system needs a complete overhaul, so does this myriad of immigration centres across the country which is costing all of us billions of pounds.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:37 pm

thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:40 pm

Ben wrote:thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING


Its all to do with votes. Labour opened the door on purpose so that those dependent on them would vote for them. If you are on benefits you vote for Labour, the more people on benefits, the more people vote for Labour. Simple really

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:50 pm

HeFilmsTheClouds wrote:
Ben wrote:thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING


Its all to do with votes. Labour opened the door on purpose so that those dependent on them would vote for them. If you are on benefits you vote for Labour, the more people on benefits, the more people vote for Labour. Simple really


time to get rid of the leeches then, give them all free bottles of cock but stick some poisen in them all

problem solved :lol:

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:52 pm

CardiffBatman888 wrote:
samdm94 wrote:
Ben wrote:Lovely booklet at the DWP :roll: *****

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"leave your country and come milk ours" that would be a better title

Just out of of interest, Let's say if all 3 were born in Wales - would you still have the same opinion?

you f*cking real or what ? :evil: on a leaflet that explains benefits to people from other countries with a photo of people who are clearly from an indian/pakistani (not to sure tbh) you say that they could be welsh, pull the other one

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:53 pm

Ben wrote:thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING


Your anger seems to be misdirected. The only facts you have are "this happened to my mate".
Your posts read like lowest common denominator posts on the comments section of the Daily Mail

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:53 pm

HeFilmsTheClouds wrote:
Ben wrote:thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING


Its all to do with votes. Labour opened the door on purpose so that those dependent on them would vote for them. If you are on benefits you vote for Labour, the more people on benefits, the more people vote for Labour. Simple really


There is something in that, it is also the reason why Labour employed so many in the public sector. But the answer is not to ruin peoples lives. We should be helping people like Ben's friend because he has paid into the system.

We shouldn't be given billions out to immigrants (other likely Labour voters BTW) and that is what gets peoples backs up.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:00 pm

CardiffBatman888 wrote:
samdm94 wrote:
Ben wrote:Lovely booklet at the DWP :roll: *****

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"leave your country and come milk ours" that would be a better title

Just out of of interest, Let's say if all 3 were born in Wales - would you still have the same opinion?

i dont think the implication is they are u.k residents do you,the title of the booklet is a bit of a give away,maybe the government is being clever by putting an asian family on the cover,as anybody that do not agree with this MUST be a racist....my view....whatever colour of skin,if they come here they get nothing...simples :ayatollah:

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:08 pm

Ben wrote:the british tax payer gets feck all,

This isn't true, we get a lot of stuff

I can garentee you

No you can't

if i was to lose my job tomorrow id get no help!

Yes you would

would struggle to have a house over my head,

Yeah but thats because you wouldn't have a job, most people without a job struggle (apart from the Royal Family LOLOLOL)

If you get nothing for your taxes, where do you go when you're ill? Where do your kids get educated? What do you drive on to get to the job that you are lucky to have?
People don't claim asylum for shits n giggles.
You're not entitled to the earth just because you happened to be born on this little patch of land, y'know

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:09 pm

The benefits culture is flawed because of the MINORITY that abuse it. I'm talking foreigners, British, black, white, whoever. I know people who are genuinely struggling and having to do all these tests to prove they are not fit for work when they clearly cannot work yet those who know the tricks are getting away with stealing our money.

In recent times I have been very tempted to start ratting out those that I know are taking the piss due to the struggle I've seen genuine sufferers have to go through. I'm not ashamed to say it. Too many honest people are suffering now due to the laziness and pure cuntishness of certain individuals who are having a free ride.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm

yet another rant at 'them' - let's stick to the football boys, much easier all round.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:47 pm

Ben wrote:thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING


read the booklet before you criticise it possibly a good idea.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:00 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Ben wrote:thanks tony, totally agree

My mate who had a house with his girlfriend and 3 kids, always worked, never been in trouble, she was working part time because she had the kids to look after but couldn't afford not to work because of child care is so expensive, he losses his job his life has totally changed, looks like he'll have to leave the house, he's depressed and losing everything, will the country I PAY TAXES FOR - TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS - HELP HIM OUT?

WILL THEY f**k!!! it fecking stinks!! they'd rather help people who've never worked here and never will and wern't even born here, give them nice houses, more money

F**KING DISGUSTING


read the booklet before you criticise it possibly a good idea.


Haha, yeah maybe!

"It has the words ABROAD and BENEFITS on it! arrrgghhh this country is going to the dogs..."

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:00 pm

Ben wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
citybluechris wrote:what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??


Only if they were coming from abroad....


nothing to do with race ! the british tax payer gets feck all, yet people who come into this country get everything and all help under the sun, I can garentee you if i was to lose my job tomorrow id get no help! and would struggle to have a house over my head, can you honestly say the same if the boot was on the other foot?

too many of the ccmb lot on here, pc do gooders who think life is perfect in thier perfect little bubble


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Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:39 pm

Ben wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
citybluechris wrote:what if the picture was of a druggy and alcoholics? and young pregnant women? would you of posted it up ??


Only if they were coming from abroad....


nothing to do with race ! the british tax payer gets feck all, yet people who come into this country get everything and all help under the sun, I can garentee you if i was to lose my job tomorrow id get no help! and would struggle to have a house over my head, can you honestly say the same if the boot was on the other foot?

too many of the ccmb lot on here, pc do gooders who think life is perfect in thier perfect little bubble


I didn't mention anything about race, I listed types of people who also gets a lot more benefits than the rest of us

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:45 pm

Look in my opinion there are way way way way too many people in this country who shouldn't be here, and plenty of them are taxi drivers or hang around city and Albany road touting for work, from Albania, Romania and Poland. I wish these people could find decent employment in there own country and leave us to get on with it over here.

Re: Benefits

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:49 pm

Miller time wrote:Look in my opinion there are way way way way too many people in this country who shouldn't be here, and plenty of them are taxi drivers or hang around city and Albany road touting for work, from Albania, Romania and Poland. I wish these people could find decent employment in there own country and leave us to get on with it over here.


shhhhh dont have a opinion diffrent than others, we should all bow down to them, give them our hard earned cash and wipe thier arses :roll: