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A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:47 am

Was just speaking to my dad, who's not a Cardiff supporter, and we both agreed how weak the Championship is this year.

You look how lucky we've been in some games, and some poor performances. Yet those behind us haven't been able to capitalise.

Still, I'm not complaining :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:20 am

The same has been said of the last half dozen Championship seasons that i can recall.

Fact is, we are where we are, in a very competitive Championship that ever there was.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:23 am

RICK+CCFC wrote:The same has been said of the last half dozen Championship seasons that i can recall.

Fact is, we are where we are, in a very competitive Championship that ever there was.


This is correct in my opinion. :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:25 am

18 of the champ teams have been in prem so is it weaker or more competative?

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:27 am

I was thinking the same but is there throwback to this? Is it that, infact its a better league due to the teams below all taking points off eachother and that Cardiff are just kicking arse? You look at the big teams in this division Blackburn, Wolves, Bolton, Birmingham etc all underacheiving, is this due to the league being better or its just a case of they are all as sh*t as eachother??

Makes you think ... (your probably right tho haha!)

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:36 am

You could say the same about the premier league. How many of them have been beaten by lower league clubs already this season. They argue that some put out "weaker" teams, but they have massive budgets, and big squads to choose from so there is no excuse. Surely all their players are premier league standard, otherwise why are they in their squads?
If the premier league is so strong where are Man City and Chelski in the champios league? Didn''t both come bottom of their group? Arsenal will probably go out next round, don't know who Man Utd are playing so cannot comment.

I think the championship is just getting tighter and tighter as training techniques and tactics evolve. There are also a lot of games to play so tiredness and pressure builds as the season progresses.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:02 pm

I find this post a little sad and wonder 'why' a Cardiff City fan would want to start it in the beginning? :roll:

I see a little "because it's us" syndrome and it disappoints me that SOME people STILL want to find a way of 'knocking' what is being achieved :oops:

Cardiff City FC are in the position they are because they are currently the BEST TEAM in The Championship, as well as being the BEST MANAGED and HARDEST WORKING ;)

When we got 'mugged' by Blackpool a couple of short years ago we were told "Oh dear, that was probably your best chance of getting out of this division, as the teams comeing down will strengthen the competition next year" :lol:

Then the same was said (Blackburn et al :lol: ) for this season :lol:

The REALITY is that there is no better time to be promoted than THIS season and you can only do that by beating the teams around you. So far, it's looking PRETTY DAMN FINE from where I'm sitting!! :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:12 pm

I completely disagree.

The Championship is the most competitive league around
Top can lose to bottom and no game is a cert banker.
You can be in a relegation dogfight one minute then go on a run and find yourselves in playoff contention.As far a a second teir goes there isn't a comparison with the championship anywhere in the world.
So many premier teams around Europe would struggle in this league. I'm not talking about your Milans Bayerns Barca and co but the likes of Belgium Scotland and several other leagues tops teams would struggle on a weekly basis.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:26 pm

You're only saying that because we are smashing it in a way that we haven't before.


In the last few years QPR, Reading, Newcastle etc probably all thought they were in a shitty league because they were destroying it. This year, we are that top team.

I'm sure everyone below us doesn't think it's that weak. Its the same as it ever was, we've just got better.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:34 pm

the past 2 seasons and this season has been the worse

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:34 pm

Those behind us haven't been able to capitalise because we keep winning games.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:42 pm

aj1927 wrote:I completely disagree.

The Championship is the most competitive league around
Top can lose to bottom and no game is a cert banker.
You can be in a relegation dogfight one minute then go on a run and find yourselves in playoff contention.As far a a second teir goes there isn't a comparison with the championship anywhere in the world.
So many premier teams around Europe would struggle in this league. I'm not talking about your Milans Bayerns Barca and co but the likes of Belgium Scotland and several other leagues tops teams would struggle on a weekly basis.



Agree with you .
A lot of premier teams in England will also struggle in the championship, eg: Wolves, Blackburn, Bolton, Birmingham. I do not expect Villa to do very well next year either.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:47 pm

Big difference between competitive and quality.

He's, the league is very competitive - bit it's lacking in quality this year. Hence why we are so far clear!

Lets be honest, we haven't been ground breaking-ly good, have we?

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:48 pm

aj1927 wrote:I completely disagree.

The Championship is the most competitive league around
Top can lose to bottom and no game is a cert banker.
You can be in a relegation dogfight one minute then go on a run and find yourselves in playoff contention.As far a a second teir goes there isn't a comparison with the championship anywhere in the world.
So many premier teams around Europe would struggle in this league. I'm not talking about your Milans Bayerns Barca and co but the likes of Belgium Scotland and several other leagues tops teams would struggle on a weekly basis.


As I said, there's a big difference between competitive and quality.

Yes, the league is very competitive - doesn't mean it's full of quality teams.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:15 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
aj1927 wrote:I completely disagree.

The Championship is the most competitive league around
Top can lose to bottom and no game is a cert banker.
You can be in a relegation dogfight one minute then go on a run and find yourselves in playoff contention.As far a a second teir goes there isn't a comparison with the championship anywhere in the world.
So many premier teams around Europe would struggle in this league. I'm not talking about your Milans Bayerns Barca and co but the likes of Belgium Scotland and several other leagues tops teams would struggle on a weekly basis.


As I said, there's a big difference between competitive and quality.

Yes, the league is very competitive - doesn't mean it's full of quality teams.


Don't dispute the quality Baz but you have to admit on a weekly basis of non stop running harrasssing ferocity of the championship a team full of flair and not much fight isn't going to be successful week in week out.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:56 pm

So basically you would'nt advise me to go down there any time soon then?

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:43 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Was just speaking to my dad, who's not a Cardiff supporter, and we both agreed how weak the Championship is this year.

You look how lucky we've been in some games, and some poor performances. Yet those behind us haven't been able to capitalise.

Still, I'm not complaining :lol: :ayatollah:

I will disagree with you, last season and the season before imo were weaker than this season, I think we have a strong squad and because we are where we are it looks like the division is weak, I beg to differ.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:09 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Was just speaking to my dad, who's not a Cardiff supporter, and we both agreed how weak the Championship is this year.

You look how lucky we've been in some games, and some poor performances. Yet those behind us haven't been able to capitalise.

Still, I'm not complaining :lol: :ayatollah:


Or is it that our relative ability in the division makes it appear that way?

StT.

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:22 pm

This is a typical jack mantra I'm sure. I wouldn't say it's a weak division. Leicester, Hull, Palace and Middlesbrough have all been extremely competitive. Combined with our superb consistency, where we have been fortunate is where the close-season Promotion favourites of Blackpool, Wolves, Bolton and Blackburn with all their experience i think it's pretty rare that none of those clubs have managed a consistent run of form. That to me is a massive surprise and a huge factor on the championship season so far

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:29 pm

Yet the three teams who came down are in the relegation zone when they were all tipped for the top 6. Strange world...

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:39 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:I find this post a little sad and wonder 'why' a Cardiff City fan would want to start it in the beginning? :roll:

I see a little "because it's us" syndrome and it disappoints me that SOME people STILL want to find a way of 'knocking' what is being achieved :oops:

Cardiff City FC are in the position they are because they are currently the BEST TEAM in The Championship, as well as being the BEST MANAGED and HARDEST WORKING ;)

When we got 'mugged' by Blackpool a couple of short years ago we were told "Oh dear, that was probably your best chance of getting out of this division, as the teams comeing down will strengthen the competition next year" :lol:

Then the same was said (Blackburn et al :lol: ) for this season :lol:

The REALITY is that there is no better time to be promoted than THIS season and you can only do that by beating the teams around you. So far, it's looking PRETTY DAMN FINE from where I'm sitting!! :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:40 pm

We have the same topic every year of how poor this league is, its not poor the same as i said in a thread last year and the year before its whoever is on top is the best team :shock:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:57 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:We have the same topic every year of how poor this league is, its not poor the same as i said in a thread last year and the year before its whoever is on top is the best team :shock:


Yep and at least the last couple of seasons there are always dozens of threads pre-season saying how tough this league will be. :)

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:00 pm

if we were 14th we wouldnt be saying this...were making it look easy :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:19 pm

greenlawler wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:We have the same topic every year of how poor this league is, its not poor the same as i said in a thread last year and the year before its whoever is on top is the best team :shock:


Yep and at least the last couple of seasons there are always dozens of threads pre-season saying how tough this league will be. :)

:lol: thats the funny part, then this :malky:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:43 pm

No. We are just by far the best team :ayatollah:

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:45 pm

It's the worst in terms of quality for a good few years, don't see how that can be denied. We haven't played particularly well either but grinder out results. All we can do though is beat who's in front of you.

This years league

Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:41 pm

Everyone is saying its the easiest we've seen for years, would we be saying his if we were lying in mid table? I don't think so, we're just making it look easy!!! ;) :ayatollah: :D

Re: This years league

Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:47 pm

I refer you to Championship bingo thread

Re: A poor league this year

Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:11 pm

Saint Mellon wrote:It's the worst in terms of quality for a good few years, don't see how that can be denied. We haven't played particularly well either but grinder out results. All we can do though is beat who's in front of you.


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